Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

....103 quakes since last week...in an area where fracking is taking place.

Coincidence, of course. :)

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:38:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

...103 quakes since last week...in an area where fracking is taking place.

Coincidence, of course. :)

Did anyone see a big fist come out of the sky and hear a thunderous, "'CAUSE YOU ****ED ME OFF!"
No? Well, blame it on Bush then.

Good night, *F*O*A*D*!!

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/17/14, 9:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:38:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

...103 quakes since last week...in an area where fracking is taking place.

Coincidence, of course. :)

Did anyone see a big fist come out of the sky and hear a thunderous, "'CAUSE YOU ****ED ME OFF!"
No? Well, blame it on Bush then.

Good night, *F*O*A*D*!!



You're really trying to stir things up again, hey, John? There seems to
be a connection between fracking and earth tremors. It's happening in
places other than Oklahoma where fracking is taking place.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:19:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:38:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

...103 quakes since last week...in an area where fracking is taking place.

Coincidence, of course. :)

Did anyone see a big fist come out of the sky and hear a thunderous, "'CAUSE YOU ****ED ME OFF!"
No? Well, blame it on Bush then.

Good night, *F*O*A*D*!!



You're really trying to stir things up again, hey, John? There seems to
be a connection between fracking and earth tremors. It's happening in
places other than Oklahoma where fracking is taking place.

You need a sense of humor, especially if you're going to continue your anti-religious attacks.

I keep waiting for Don to comment on that.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 10:03 AM, True North wrote:
Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?



I recommend self-immolation as a useful and productive hobby for
right-wingers. :)

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:10:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 10:03 AM, True North wrote:
Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?



I recommend self-immolation as a useful and productive hobby for
right-wingers. :)

Would that include responding to F*O*A*D posts?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me shoot
his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards I got a
pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the target. Do
you know anything about this gun. I want one.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:
There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?



Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,
well, just because...

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:

There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?







Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,

well, just because...

what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:

There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?







Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,

well, just because...

what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?


Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/2014 6:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry
because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

I thought maybe you were duped into thinking it came naturally from a
cow ranch or something. :-)

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 6:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry
because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

I thought maybe you were duped into thinking it came naturally from a
cow ranch or something. :-)





Did you miss this bit of news?

http://www.komonews.com/news/offbeat...242429071.html

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/2014 6:35 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are
starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry
because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

I thought maybe you were duped into thinking it came naturally from a
cow ranch or something. :-)





Did you miss this bit of news?

http://www.komonews.com/news/offbeat...242429071.html


I saw that. Many scientists are concerned about underwater methane
releases and also that trapped in thawing permafrost. According to this
guy, the danger is catastrophic and imminent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnM1QpuwWI

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/18/14, 6:43 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:35 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are
starting in
advance ?















Indeed, because we should never question the energy industry
because,



well, just because...



what's that gotta do with earthquakes in Georgia?





Maybe it is one of those matters of faith thingies. :)

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and
about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

I thought maybe you were duped into thinking it came naturally from a
cow ranch or something. :-)





Did you miss this bit of news?

http://www.komonews.com/news/offbeat...242429071.html



I saw that. Many scientists are concerned about underwater methane
releases and also that trapped in thawing permafrost. According to this
guy, the danger is catastrophic and imminent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnM1QpuwWI




Ahh, yet another doomsday scenario to keep us awake late at night.

:)

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:04:12 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me shoot
his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards I got a
pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the target. Do
you know anything about this gun. I want one.

Everything you wanted to know:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765785_-1_757769_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I don't know anything other than what's there.

Looks like a lot of info he

http://smith-wessonforum.com/search....archid=4828707

You can do a lot of reading and picture looking without joining, but joining isn't difficult.

I've got a Model 28, .357/.38Special. I enjoy shooting it. It's the one my 12 year-old shot and put
12 rounds in a 3" grouping at 7 yards - single action. It was the first time he'd ever shot a
revolver. He had a mix of .38 and .357 rounds. He did well.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 5:44 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:42:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:21:53 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 5:19 PM, Tim wrote:



There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state.
Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in
advance ?

could be, but on whose part?



Those who are duped by the energy industry?


Where does the propane in your big underground tank come from? Mostly
it comes from natural gas pockets that also contain methane and about 5
percent propane. Natural gas is now commonly harvested by fracking.



And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

I thought maybe you were duped into thinking it came naturally from a
cow ranch or something. :-)



Yah, that was funny!

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:04:12 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me shoot
his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards I got a
pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the target. Do
you know anything about this gun. I want one.


Some more good stuff:
http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/smith-and-wesson-686/

If it were me, and I wanted some for target shooting, primarily, I'd give to the Model 926 or 929,
both in 9mm. That ammo is a lot cheaper than the .38/.357 stuff. That 929 is pretty cool. Damn, I
might have to mow some lawns in the neighborhood and save up some money!

And, I overlooked the 'six' above. This must be the one you shot. http://tinyurl.com/k6cnzys

That 6" barrel would definitely be a help in getting a tight group. My Mod 28 has a 4" barrel.
Put some wooden grips on that thing and it'd be right purty too!

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:20:47 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


And that has what, exactly, with the duplicity of the energy industry?

Oh, probably the same as earthquakes in Georgia...

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:19:35 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?

Those earthquakes were actually in South Carolina. I felt the 4.1 Friday night. It shook the house pretty good and rumbled for 2-3 seconds. The smaller one Sunday I didn't.

No fracking here, either.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:10:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:19:35 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?



Those earthquakes were actually in South Carolina. I felt the 4.1 Friday night. It shook the house pretty good and rumbled for 2-3 seconds. The smaller one Sunday I didn't.



No fracking here, either.

Oh, ok. I thought it was mainly in Georgia. The title of this news sourse led me that direction...


http://earthquake-report.com/2014/02...ruary-15-2014/

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:10:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:19:35 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

There's no fracking in Georgia, but it's coming to that state. Maybe
last weeks two earthquakes (a 3.2 and a 4.1) are starting in advance ?



Those earthquakes were actually in South Carolina. I felt the 4.1
Friday night. It shook the house pretty good and rumbled for 2-3
seconds. The smaller one Sunday I didn't.



No fracking here, either.

Oh, ok. I thought it was mainly in Georgia. The title of this news sourse
led me that direction...


http://earthquake-report.com/2014/02...ruary-15-2014/

1811 New Madrid Fault ruptured. Overdue. Was it fracking in 1811?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:18:22 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

I mentioned the 9mm revolvers to him, but never heard anything. Maybe he's buying one of each.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 7:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:18:22 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

I mentioned the 9mm revolvers to him, but never heard anything. Maybe he's buying one of each.

I'm not positioned to buy any handguns at the moment, if you catch my
drift. My bandwidth is limited, so I don't do much googleing for
handguns right now.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 9:45 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/22/2014 7:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:18:22 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

I mentioned the 9mm revolvers to him, but never heard anything. Maybe
he's buying one of each.

I'm not positioned to buy any handguns at the moment, if you catch my
drift. My bandwidth is limited, so I don't do much googleing for
handguns right now.


I just sold the S&W 627 Performance Center this morning. Put it on
"Armslist" last night and had seven buyers within 5 hours. Turns out the
first guy that responded lives about 4 miles from my house.

Getting rid of the ones I really don't need or shoot much.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/14, 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2014 9:45 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/22/2014 7:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:18:22 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

I mentioned the 9mm revolvers to him, but never heard anything. Maybe
he's buying one of each.

I'm not positioned to buy any handguns at the moment, if you catch my
drift. My bandwidth is limited, so I don't do much googleing for
handguns right now.


I just sold the S&W 627 Performance Center this morning. Put it on
"Armslist" last night and had seven buyers within 5 hours. Turns out the
first guy that responded lives about 4 miles from my house.

Getting rid of the ones I really don't need or shoot much.




I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 11:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/22/14, 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2014 9:45 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/22/2014 7:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:18:22 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

HanK wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:03:01 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny, a person can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all your
agitating posts.
What new hobby or fixation will you adopt this week?

Why the 'snarkiness' Don? Are you really having a problem making a
post? Try making a sociable post.
You'll probably get sociable responses.

As to a new hobby - probably none, but the week is young. How about
you? Do you have any hobbies
other than boating? Boating can get boring this time of year. Do you
do any ice-fishing? You've
discussed photography several times here, how's that going? Any
pictures to share?

I'll have to take a picture of the new ornament on the front of the
Silverado. You'll love it.
Probably want to get something similar for your Toyota.

John, I think I'm going to take up target shooting. A fella let me
shoot his Smith and Wesson 686P six inch 7 shot yesterday. At 7 yards
I got a pattern of about 2 inches pretty close to the center of the
target. Do you know anything about this gun. I want one.
It's a well-made revolver. Get one and others will follow if you
continue to go to the range.

I mentioned the 9mm revolvers to him, but never heard anything. Maybe
he's buying one of each.

I'm not positioned to buy any handguns at the moment, if you catch my
drift. My bandwidth is limited, so I don't do much googleing for
handguns right now.


I just sold the S&W 627 Performance Center this morning. Put it on
"Armslist" last night and had seven buyers within 5 hours. Turns out the
first guy that responded lives about 4 miles from my house.

Getting rid of the ones I really don't need or shoot much.




I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."



I really liked the 627. It has a 5" barrel and the cylinder held 8
rounds. Accurate as hell for a decent shooter. I just didn't use it
much and I don't need an arsenal of handguns.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:12:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."


.38 is pretty cheap to shoot if you reload. The trick is finding a
source of cheap cast bullets.
If you have more time than money you could cast your own.
Primers are a couple cents each and a can of Bullseye would last most
shooters a year or more shooting a box or more a week. (~3000
wadcutters)

If you have a .357 you can still get a very capable defense round from
commercial sources and load some devastating stuff.


I get a kick out of all the "stopping power" claims made for various
types of handguns and ammo.

I suspect that in close-range, home defense situations my little S&W
..38P "Chief's Special" would be as effective at stopping an intruder as
a .357 Magnum or .45. I mean, how dead do you have to shoot someone?

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:02:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/22/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:12:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."


.38 is pretty cheap to shoot if you reload. The trick is finding a
source of cheap cast bullets.
If you have more time than money you could cast your own.
Primers are a couple cents each and a can of Bullseye would last most
shooters a year or more shooting a box or more a week. (~3000
wadcutters)

If you have a .357 you can still get a very capable defense round from
commercial sources and load some devastating stuff.


I get a kick out of all the "stopping power" claims made for various
types of handguns and ammo.

I suspect that in close-range, home defense situations my little S&W
.38P "Chief's Special" would be as effective at stopping an intruder as
a .357 Magnum or .45. I mean, how dead do you have to shoot someone?



When you actually look at the FBI standards you start seeing the
deficiencies in different rounds. They look at penetration and energy
transfer after going through the various things you may have to shoot
through. Most relevant for folks up north is the effect of different
kinds of coats. If they plug up the hollow point, you end up with a
FMJ.

The issue with stopping power is not whether the person eventually
dies from their wound. It is whether they kill you before they die.
A .22 is one of the most deadly rounds in raw numbers but a surprising
number of these people do not even realize they were shot for a while.


Shoot 'em in the head and they'll know it for a nanosecond. The .22 is
potent in the head because it will enter the skull but not necessarily
exit. Bounces around for a bit destroying lots of grey matter.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:02:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/22/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:12:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."


.38 is pretty cheap to shoot if you reload. The trick is finding a
source of cheap cast bullets.
If you have more time than money you could cast your own.
Primers are a couple cents each and a can of Bullseye would last most
shooters a year or more shooting a box or more a week. (~3000
wadcutters)

If you have a .357 you can still get a very capable defense round from
commercial sources and load some devastating stuff.


I get a kick out of all the "stopping power" claims made for various
types of handguns and ammo.

I suspect that in close-range, home defense situations my little S&W
.38P "Chief's Special" would be as effective at stopping an intruder as
a .357 Magnum or .45. I mean, how dead do you have to shoot someone?


Especially if you put a hollow point in it. My wife loves shooting the Chief's Special, 36-1. Ours
has the 3" barrel, so it's not too hard to hit a target with it.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:20:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/22/2014 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:02:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/22/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:12:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."


.38 is pretty cheap to shoot if you reload. The trick is finding a
source of cheap cast bullets.
If you have more time than money you could cast your own.
Primers are a couple cents each and a can of Bullseye would last most
shooters a year or more shooting a box or more a week. (~3000
wadcutters)

If you have a .357 you can still get a very capable defense round from
commercial sources and load some devastating stuff.


I get a kick out of all the "stopping power" claims made for various
types of handguns and ammo.

I suspect that in close-range, home defense situations my little S&W
.38P "Chief's Special" would be as effective at stopping an intruder as
a .357 Magnum or .45. I mean, how dead do you have to shoot someone?



When you actually look at the FBI standards you start seeing the
deficiencies in different rounds. They look at penetration and energy
transfer after going through the various things you may have to shoot
through. Most relevant for folks up north is the effect of different
kinds of coats. If they plug up the hollow point, you end up with a
FMJ.

The issue with stopping power is not whether the person eventually
dies from their wound. It is whether they kill you before they die.
A .22 is one of the most deadly rounds in raw numbers but a surprising
number of these people do not even realize they were shot for a while.


Shoot 'em in the head and they'll know it for a nanosecond. The .22 is
potent in the head because it will enter the skull but not necessarily
exit. Bounces around for a bit destroying lots of grey matter.


Ah, that's a big assumption.

In some heads there's not a lot of gray matter floating around.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 1:49 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:02:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/22/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:12:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've been thinking of getting a revolver for which ammo is plentiful and
not horrifically expensive. When I checked around yesterday, there
seemed to be good supplies of .357 mag/.38 special available, though the
prices were still too high.

I've shot a S&W 628 in various varieties a few times. It's a truly
wonderful revolver in terms of action and accuracy. For close range
target shooting, a 4" barrel would be fine, I would think, although
there are 5" and 6" barrel varieties out there, too. The 7 shot models
seem a bit odd to me for a "six shooter."


.38 is pretty cheap to shoot if you reload. The trick is finding a
source of cheap cast bullets.
If you have more time than money you could cast your own.
Primers are a couple cents each and a can of Bullseye would last most
shooters a year or more shooting a box or more a week. (~3000
wadcutters)

If you have a .357 you can still get a very capable defense round from
commercial sources and load some devastating stuff.


I get a kick out of all the "stopping power" claims made for various
types of handguns and ammo.

I suspect that in close-range, home defense situations my little S&W
.38P "Chief's Special" would be as effective at stopping an intruder as
a .357 Magnum or .45. I mean, how dead do you have to shoot someone?


Especially if you put a hollow point in it. My wife loves shooting the Chief's Special, 36-1. Ours
has the 3" barrel, so it's not too hard to hit a target with it.


Yeah, mine has the 3" barrel also. Surprisingly accurate at longer
ranges if you have time to set up and aim. I think there's a reason the
police departments liked them way back when.

Oklahoma Earthquakes...
 

On 2/22/2014 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:20:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/22/2014 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:02:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


When you actually look at the FBI standards you start seeing the
deficiencies in different rounds. They look at penetration and energ
y
transfer after going through the various things you may have to shoot
through. Most relevant for folks up north is the effect of different
kinds of coats. If they plug up the hollow point, you end up with a
FMJ.

The issue with stopping power is not whether the person eventually
dies from their wound. It is whether they kill you before they die.
A .22 is one of the most deadly rounds in raw numbers but a surprising
number of these people do not even realize they were shot for a while.


Shoot 'em in the head and they'll know it for a nanosecond. The .22 is
potent in the head because it will enter the skull but not necessarily
exit. Bounces around for a bit destroying lots of grey matter.


That is largely a myth. There are lots of places you can hit in the
head that will not stop a motivated attacker.
People walk around with all sorts of things penetrating their brain.

Without a significant amount of hydraulic shock, it may give them
several seconds to get off a shot at you.

If you just hit the soft tissue below the eye line, (half the head)
there is very little actual stopping power.


I think you missed the point. What I've read (and have seen video tests
of on fake head targets) is that a .22 has enough oomph to break
through the skull but not enough to continue out the other side.
Instead, it ricochets off the inside and bounces around a bit,
destroying or damaging more brain tissue than if it went straight
through and out the other side.