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Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that sometimes Scott seems to be a prime candidate for anger management therapy with maybe a couple of sessions focused on paranoia. He seems to think everyone is out to get him and he has to fight back and call you an asshole or something. You are a self serving hero.... Now you are a professional shrink too... Look up narcissist, then get back with me... |
Well, of course...
On Monday, February 17, 2014 11:52:31 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:13:58 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: 1 in 4 Americans think the sun revolves around Earth You should get Don to add 'anti-religious' to his 'fixation' list. He's not smart enough to be " fixated " on anything but a Mop. Only in forward as well. We all know he cant even back up a trailered Boat. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ....Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... |
Well, of course...
On 2/17/2014 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe. Ironic to hear that from you.. You are just like harry, only without the lies....:) |
Hey John???
Oh, oh Dick.... You're in for it now.
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Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:27 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that sometimes Scott seems to be a prime candidate for anger management therapy with maybe a couple of sessions focused on paranoia. He seems to think everyone is out to get him and he has to fight back and call you an asshole or something. You are a self serving hero.... Now you are a professional shrink too... Look up narcissist, then get back with me... LOL. And you are as predictable as the sunrise. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:32 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Because you caught my attention. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:38 PM, True North wrote:
Oh, oh Dick.... You're in for it now. Yup. Pretty soon I'll get the predictable "asshole" comment. |
Well, of course...
On 2/17/2014 3:36 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. Then there are some who believe *they* are the center of the universe. Ironic to hear that from you.. You are just like harry, only without the lies....:) :-) Stop it. My stomach hurts. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 3:43 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:32 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Because you caught my attention. Yeah, someone you don't feel inferior to so you are "kicking the cat" as the old sales story goes... It's pretty obvious to those who are not kissing your ass for the nice things you bring to the party:) |
Hey John???
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:32:39 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Uh, Scott. I believe it was you who couldn't let it go. Just sayin'. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 4:02 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:32:39 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Uh, Scott. I believe it was you who couldn't let it go. Just sayin'. Dick took a shot based on a conversation about ammo we had last year. But I am sure you all will run with that anyway... Listen John. Here's the way I see it.. You know about some stuff, pretty good guy, but not really mechanical, harry, here cause he has a nasty inferior complex and needs to feel like he's beating folks up, dick the same, but doesn't have to lie cause he has plenty to flash around... the rest I am not getting into but the fact is, there is just nothing here for me anymore and even though I tried for 4 months to not be "that guy" anymore, it's obvious "that guy" is all you poor suckers are here for... Later.... |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 4:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:54:56 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:43 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:32 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Because you caught my attention. Yeah, someone you don't feel inferior to so you are "kicking the cat" as the old sales story goes... It's pretty obvious to those who are not kissing your ass for the nice things you bring to the party:) Scott, do you remember Jim Hertvick? Just sayin'. You remember Harry Krause... Just sayin'... |
Hey John???
What the 'ell?
Weren't you the beneficiary of Richard's largess a couple years ago when he donated to the Mini Mouse Racing Team? |
Hey John???
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:06:57 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 4:02 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:32:39 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Uh, Scott. I believe it was you who couldn't let it go. Just sayin'. Dick took a shot based on a conversation about ammo we had last year. But I am sure you all will run with that anyway... Listen John. Here's the way I see it.. You know about some stuff, pretty good guy, but not really mechanical, harry, here cause he has a nasty inferior complex and needs to feel like he's beating folks up, dick the same, but doesn't have to lie cause he has plenty to flash around... the rest I am not getting into but the fact is, there is just nothing here for me anymore and even though I tried for 4 months to not be "that guy" anymore, it's obvious "that guy" is all you poor suckers are here for... Later.... Go back several weeks and you'll find I posted the NRA article and also said something about it not being a conspiracy. You weren't the only one talking about a government conspiracy. You're right. I'm not the most mechanical guy in the world. But, I've replaced the clutch in an MGB-GT, all by my lonesome. And my bike, witch I've had for 23 years, has never been in the shop. So, I get along OK. Of course, I'm not afraid to ask for help when in doubt either. |
Well, of course...
On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 4:19 PM, True North wrote:
What the 'ell? Weren't you the beneficiary of Richard's largess a couple years ago when he donated to the Mini Mouse Racing Team? I didn't make any donation to the Mini Mouse Racing Team, at least not that I know of. If I did, I was deceived. |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 4:06 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 4:02 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:32:39 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 3:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:26 PM, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 2:03 PM, BAR wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:50:59 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 1:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:12:19 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/17/2014 11:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Yeah, cause they are not related at all... But hey, you are the boss:) BTW Scott, you don't have to call me names by email. You can do it right here. Ummm, would you mind telling me what the hell you are talking about here? Or are you just smearing me?? from: KC to: Poco Loco date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:23 PM subject: countersteering... mailed-by: gmail.com signed-by: gmail.com We'll leave it at that. Absolutely forged. And you all know damn well if I say something here, I admit it... period... Are you giving permission to have the email message in question put into the public domain? , Sure, and I did go back and check and I did write it. Somehow went straight to John instead of the group. He was acting like an asshole, so I called him, "asshole"... You sent him an email calling him an asshole? Ahh, the inhabitants of rec.boats. It doesn't take a PhD in Psychiatry or Psychotherapy to recognized that ...Dick has little man disease...:) Gotta' be the boss, gotta' mock and rub it in when someone makes a mistake, has to be the first to answer, has to be right... Has to go back and pat himself on the back for months when he gets a little internet victory... Like beating a dead horse.... sick dude. Look at yourself first Dick, ask youself why you have to "win" in an internet forum, why you have to go back over and over it again and agan?.... Uh, Scott. I believe it was you who couldn't let it go. Just sayin'. Dick took a shot based on a conversation about ammo we had last year. But I am sure you all will run with that anyway... Listen John. Here's the way I see it.. You know about some stuff, pretty good guy, but not really mechanical, harry, here cause he has a nasty inferior complex and needs to feel like he's beating folks up, dick the same, but doesn't have to lie cause he has plenty to flash around... the rest I am not getting into but the fact is, there is just nothing here for me anymore and even though I tried for 4 months to not be "that guy" anymore, it's obvious "that guy" is all you poor suckers are here for... Later.... Contrary to your typical reaction, no one is "out to get you". Yes, some, including me, will challenge some of the things you proclaim here because, well frankly they are absurd sometimes. The fact that they are far fetched is not our problem. |
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On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude. |
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On 2/17/14, 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude. Galileo was an advocate of the theories of Copernicus. He suffered for it. |
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On 2/17/14, 4:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. You are the one who mentioned the ancient Egyptians...I merely was indicating that it was religious ignorance from before then to well after the death of Galileo that keep the belief of the sun revolving around the earth...alive. |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 9:13:58 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
The idea that the sun revolves around the earth is a deeply religious concept... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q Hank Johnson thought that Guam would tip over. I suppose that's a product of a 'deeply religious concept' as well |
Hey John???
On 2/17/2014 5:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Contrary to your typical reaction, no one is "out to get you". "out to get me"... you just spew this stuff for what?? |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:20:34 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 4:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. You are the one who mentioned the ancient Egyptians...I merely was indicating that it was religious ignorance from before then to well after the death of Galileo that keep the belief of the sun revolving around the earth...alive. "Before the Egyptians??" wow! |
Hey John???
On 2/17/14, 5:26 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/17/2014 5:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Contrary to your typical reaction, no one is "out to get you". "out to get me"... you just spew this stuff for what?? Perhaps in response to some of your posts here, which make you seem as if you suffer from paranoia? |
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On 2/17/2014 5:18 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude. Galileo was an advocate of the theories of Copernicus. He suffered for it. True. |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:18:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude. Galileo was an advocate of the theories of Copernicus. He suffered for it. Like Galileo and Newton, Nick Copernicus didn't live 'thousands' of years ago |
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On 2/17/14, 5:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 4:18:14 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/17/2014 4:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:09:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: On 2/17/14, 2:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:56:24 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one doing the leaping. I said the "idea" was deeply religious, and it is. It was part of religious teaching for thousands of years via various religions. Whether today's religions teach it is something I don't know. How many 'thousands' of years are you talking? and which civilizations? I know the early Egyptians(Pyramid builders) as well as the early Jews (Cabala studiers) didn't think that way.. Concerning this being a religious 'theory' that's been taught for 'thousands' of years? I really think you're projecting again.... But if that's really what and how you wish to believe, then more power to you... Oh, well, then I guess you are discounting the trials and tribulations of one Galileo Galilei. He was an advocate of heliocentrism (Earth and planets revolve around a relatively stationary Sun at the center of the Solar System) and was investigated for it by an inquisition, which said he was wrong and heliocentrism was contrary to the bible. He was forbidden from lecturing that the earth was *not* the center of the solar system, and later he was forced under pain of death to recant his teachings. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. So, if you go from your starting point (ancient Egyptians) to Galileo, that would be thousands of years, and that there are still people who believe the earth is still the center of the solar system is without question a testament to the thousands of years of religious misinformation. After he died, Galileo, one of the greatest thinkers of mankind, was denied an honored resting place because of religious ignorance. You also should have included Sir Issac Newton, but he and Galileo didn't live 'thousands' of years ago. It wasn't Newton or Galileo. It was the Copernicus dude. Galileo was an advocate of the theories of Copernicus. He suffered for it. Like Galileo and Newton, Nick Copernicus didn't live 'thousands' of years ago The point, which seems lost here, is that the belief that the sun revolves around the earth is an ancient religious belief that was carried forward by more modern religions, and that the people who still believe it do so out of ignorance and religious belief and superstition. And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this planet. |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:22:16 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
The point, which seems lost here, is that the belief that the sun revolves around the earth is an ancient religious belief that was carried forward by more modern religions, and that the people who still believe it do so out of ignorance and religious belief and superstition. And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this planet. How ancient do you want to claim, Harry? The Chinese didn't believe it, neither did the Ancient Egyptians, Jews, Romans, Greeks or Assyrians? You're making a claim of 'thousands of years of religious ignorance" thought this, not them... |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:29:20 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/17/14, 5:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:20:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: You are the one who mentioned the ancient Egyptians...I merely was indicating that it was religious ignorance from before then to well after the death of Galileo that keep the belief of the sun revolving around the earth...alive. I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at the center of the solar system. I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is coming out of our school system. They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle school but they quickly forgot it. You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those with fundamentalist beliefs. What's harder to believe: 1. An uncreated god takes on human flesh. 2. A piece of bread transmogrifies into that same flesh. 3. The sun orbits the earth. You're swaying wwwwaaaayyyy off your original post, Harry. What'd you say about 'losing the point? |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:22:16 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this planet. And like I said, some people think that Guam can tip over, too.I wonder if the Congressman learned that in Sunday School class? |
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On 2/17/14, 6:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:22:16 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: The point, which seems lost here, is that the belief that the sun revolves around the earth is an ancient religious belief that was carried forward by more modern religions, and that the people who still believe it do so out of ignorance and religious belief and superstition. And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this planet. How ancient do you want to claim, Harry? The Chinese didn't believe it, neither did the Ancient Egyptians, Jews, Romans, Greeks or Assyrians? You're making a claim of 'thousands of years of religious ignorance" thought this, not them... The ancient Greeks certainly believed in geocentrism. Ptolemy, Plato and Aristotle believed in it. So did the Muslim astronomers who came later. Here's an interesting quote from Wiki: The Ptolemaic model of the solar system held sway into the early modern age; from the late 16th century onward it was gradually replaced as the consensus description by the heliocentric model. Geocentrism as a separate religious belief, however, never completely died out. In the United States between 1870 and 1920, for example, various members of the Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod published articles disparaging Copernican astronomy, and geocentrism was widely taught within the synod during that period.[37] However, in the 1902 Theological Quarterly, A. L. Graebner claimed that the synod had no doctrinal position on geocentrism, heliocentrism, or any scientific model, unless it were to contradict Scripture. He stated that any possible declarations of geocentrists within the synod did not set the position of the church body as a whole.[38][not in citation given] Articles arguing that geocentrism was the biblical perspective appeared in some early creation science newsletters associated with the Creation Research Society pointing to some passages in the Bible, which, when taken literally, indicate that the daily apparent motions of the Sun and the Moon are due to their actual motions around the Earth rather than due to the rotation of the Earth about its axis for example, Joshua 10:12 where the Sun and Moon are said to stop in the sky, and Psalms 93:1 where the world is described as immobile.[39] Contemporary advocates for such religious beliefs include Robert Sungenis (president of Bellarmine Theological Forum and author of the 2006 book Galileo Was Wrong).[40] These people subscribe to the view that a plain reading of the Bible contains an accurate account of the manner in which the universe was created and requires a geocentric worldview. Most contemporary creationist organizations reject such perspectives.[n 12] After all, Copernicanism was the first major victory of science over religion, so it's inevitable that some folks would think that everything that's wrong with the world began there. (Steven Dutch of the University of Wisconsin–Madison [42] Morris Berman quotes survey results that show currently some 20% of the U.S. population believe that the sun goes around the Earth (geocentricism) rather than the Earth goes around the sun (heliocentricism), while a further 9% claimed not to know.[43] Polls conducted by Gallup in the 1990s found that 16% of Germans, 18% of Americans and 19% of Britons hold that the Sun revolves around the Earth.[44] A study conducted in 2005 by Jon D. Miller of Northwestern University, an expert in the public understanding of science and technology,[45] found that about 20%, or one in five, of American adults believe that the Sun orbits the Earth.[46] According to 2011 VTSIOM poll, 32% of Russians believe that the Sun orbits the Earth.[47] As I stated, geocentrism is part of religious beliefs. |
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On 2/17/14, 6:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:22:16 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: And what is superstition if not the belief in supernatural causes or in trying to explain the natural world in religious terms, such as taking literally "biblical" history that claims to indicate the age of this planet. And like I said, some people think that Guam can tip over, too.I wonder if the Congressman learned that in Sunday School class? Your attempts to deny the outright superstition that underpins religious beliefs are laughable. How many millions of self-described Christians believe in creationism and believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old? |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:48:37 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
As I stated, geocentrism is part of religious beliefs. Now are you saying that this is A religious believe that is still being taught, or a misguided truth held by a few scientific skeptics? BTW, Some people still believe the earth is flat too. religious and non religious alike. |
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On 2/17/14, 6:57 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:48:37 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: As I stated, geocentrism is part of religious beliefs. Now are you saying that this is A religious believe that is still being taught, or a misguided truth held by a few scientific skeptics? BTW, Some people still believe the earth is flat too. religious and non religious alike. Tim, I don't keep track of religious beliefs beyond the ordinary superstitions. I hope geocentrism isn't still being taught but, hey, creationism is still being taught, and so is the idea that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Religious bull****. Now, if you want to posit that there is a creator, I won't argue against that concept. I don't believe it but I just don't know and never will. But if the argument is about the age of the earth or is pro-creationism, well, that's nonsense. |
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On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:50:19 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
Your attempts to deny the outright superstition that underpins religious beliefs are laughable. How many millions of self-described Christians believe in creationism and believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old? Harry, you come on here to make some boastful statement about the views of a select few then you want to put me on trial for my thoughts? Wow! BTW-Ever hear of this guy? I figured a link would be sufficient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos |
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On 2/17/14, 7:25 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2014 5:50:19 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote: Your attempts to deny the outright superstition that underpins religious beliefs are laughable. How many millions of self-described Christians believe in creationism and believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old? Harry, you come on here to make some boastful statement about the views of a select few then you want to put me on trial for my thoughts? Wow! BTW-Ever hear of this guy? I figured a link would be sufficient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos By select few, are you referring to the several Greeks I mentioned, considered for thousands of years the greatest thinkers of their era? Tell me you are not. I don't want to put you on trial for anything. We were talking about superstitions that underpin religion. Well, believing in creationism and believing the earth is less than 10,000 years old is believing in superstition. Thank goodness for Edwards v. Aguillard. :) |
Hey John???
True North wrote:
Bet you were tempted to do the 'pit maneuver' on her. ;-) Huh? Try quoting. It's easy. |
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