Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.

Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:36:19 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

snippage


Simple indeed, especially since no one can prove or will be able to
prove the existence or non-existence of a creator. All there is is
superstition and "faith." Do you think someone is going to uncover a
manual in the creator's handwriting or that you'll hear a voice coming
out of the sky? Note that I am not saying a creator does not exist. I'm
saying that existence of a creator cannot be proved or disproved. For
those who believe in such an existence, it can only be believed on the
basis of religious faith and superstition.

Someday, perhaps, we'll encounter aliens who do not look like us. I'm
not referring to John Herring's Mexicans, but to beings from another
solar system. There goes the "man is made in god's image" nonsense, eh?

That last will be true only if they are 'men' who are *not* made in God's image.

*My* Mexicans?

"You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh?"

Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:14:26 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:41 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

It is the one you are talking about


It's not the only one I was talking about, and it isn't the point. The
point was that the sort of ignorance under discussion, e.g., the earth
is less than 10,000 years old, is taught at home or at a religious
institution or gathering. These superstitious concepts aren't ideas that
spontaneously pop into someone's head.

Where? Show us. Is this your version of 'mainstream' religious thinking?

Well, of course...
 

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad 'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?

Well, of course...
 

On 2/18/14, 9:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad 'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?



I'm not aware of the religion of any poster here. I recall you said once
you used to be a Roman Catholic, or maybe I am just imagining that.

I am aware that some posters here claim to be Christians, but I'm not
sure what that means. For some of them, it certainly doesn't mean they
follow the teachings of Jesus. Is Christian a religion? I remember one
of my Southern friends telling me that Catholics weren't Christians. I
thought that was absurd. There are so many different Christian sects, I
can't tell one from another. At least with Jews, there are only three
main and a number of really minor varieties. :)

In any event, I have no dispute with those who either believe in or
don't believe in a creator. No one can prove there is one or there isn't
one, so I see no reason to argue over that.

Well, of course...
 

On 2/18/2014 10:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 9:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the
earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance
that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or
middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the
minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and
among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth
is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to
emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you
whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad
'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?



I'm not aware of the religion of any poster here. I recall you said once
you used to be a Roman Catholic, or maybe I am just imagining that.

I am aware that some posters here claim to be Christians, but I'm not
sure what that means. For some of them, it certainly doesn't mean they
follow the teachings of Jesus. Is Christian a religion? I remember one
of my Southern friends telling me that Catholics weren't Christians. I
thought that was absurd. There are so many different Christian sects, I
can't tell one from another. At least with Jews, there are only three
main and a number of really minor varieties. :)

In any event, I have no dispute with those who either believe in or
don't believe in a creator. No one can prove there is one or there isn't
one, so I see no reason to argue over that.


To me a Christian is one who fundamentally believes in the concept of
the Holy Trinity, meaning Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Basically, it's a
belief that Christ was the Son of God. *How* a person practices
Christianity is a whole other matter. It ranges from beliefs that faith
will protect you from snake bites to giving up sex for Lent. Roman
Catholics put much more emphasis on the "Virgin Mary" than Protestant
sects do. A Fundamentalist Baptist tends to interpret the Bible
literally as opposed to symbolically. That's why you really can't
lump all those who claim to be Christians into one basket based on the
execution of their beliefs.

My apologies to John for use of asterisks and quotes for emphasis.

:-)

Well, of course...
 

On 2/18/14, 11:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 9:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D
wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the
earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance
that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or
middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the
minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and
among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth
is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around
the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to
emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you
whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad
'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?



I'm not aware of the religion of any poster here. I recall you said once
you used to be a Roman Catholic, or maybe I am just imagining that.

I am aware that some posters here claim to be Christians, but I'm not
sure what that means. For some of them, it certainly doesn't mean they
follow the teachings of Jesus. Is Christian a religion? I remember one
of my Southern friends telling me that Catholics weren't Christians. I
thought that was absurd. There are so many different Christian sects, I
can't tell one from another. At least with Jews, there are only three
main and a number of really minor varieties. :)

In any event, I have no dispute with those who either believe in or
don't believe in a creator. No one can prove there is one or there isn't
one, so I see no reason to argue over that.


To me a Christian is one who fundamentally believes in the concept of
the Holy Trinity, meaning Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Basically, it's a
belief that Christ was the Son of God. *How* a person practices
Christianity is a whole other matter. It ranges from beliefs that faith
will protect you from snake bites to giving up sex for Lent. Roman
Catholics put much more emphasis on the "Virgin Mary" than Protestant
sects do. A Fundamentalist Baptist tends to interpret the Bible
literally as opposed to symbolically. That's why you really can't
lump all those who claim to be Christians into one basket based on the
execution of their beliefs.

My apologies to John for use of asterisks and quotes for emphasis.

:-)






I suppose everyone's mileage differs. To me, being a Christian means
following the teachings attributed to Jesus, especially as they pertain
to the treatment of others.

Since the bible, *all* of it, was written down by men, sometimes long
after events and tales in it took place, the idea of taking it literally
to me is beyond the pale.

Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:01:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/18/2014 10:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 9:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the
earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance
that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or
middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the
minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and
among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth
is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to
emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you
whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad
'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?



I'm not aware of the religion of any poster here. I recall you said once
you used to be a Roman Catholic, or maybe I am just imagining that.

I am aware that some posters here claim to be Christians, but I'm not
sure what that means. For some of them, it certainly doesn't mean they
follow the teachings of Jesus. Is Christian a religion? I remember one
of my Southern friends telling me that Catholics weren't Christians. I
thought that was absurd. There are so many different Christian sects, I
can't tell one from another. At least with Jews, there are only three
main and a number of really minor varieties. :)

In any event, I have no dispute with those who either believe in or
don't believe in a creator. No one can prove there is one or there isn't
one, so I see no reason to argue over that.


To me a Christian is one who fundamentally believes in the concept of
the Holy Trinity, meaning Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Basically, it's a
belief that Christ was the Son of God. *How* a person practices
Christianity is a whole other matter. It ranges from beliefs that faith
will protect you from snake bites to giving up sex for Lent. Roman
Catholics put much more emphasis on the "Virgin Mary" than Protestant
sects do. A Fundamentalist Baptist tends to interpret the Bible
literally as opposed to symbolically. That's why you really can't
lump all those who claim to be Christians into one basket based on the
execution of their beliefs.

My apologies to John for use of asterisks and quotes for emphasis.

:-)


(No sweat. I'd not copyrighted that.)

Well, of course...
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:08:45 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:27:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:15:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:46 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:22:44 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/17/14, 9:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:29:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I am not sure of any wide spread religious belief that the earth is at
the center of the solar system.
I think you are just calling out the wide spread ignorance that is
coming out of our school system.

They may have heard something about astronomy in elementary or middle
school but they quickly forgot it.



You think such foolishness springs *spontaneously* from the minds of the
badly educated? I don't. I think it is taught...at home and among those
with fundamentalist beliefs.

Of course you do but do you actually have any basis in fact beyond
your prejudice?

I know a few people who believe in creation and that the earth is 8000
years old but they still agree the solar system revolves around the
sun.


So, they got one out of three right. Great.

Hey, FOAD, what's with all the asterisks now? Are you trying to emphasize the *O*, and the *A*, or
what?


You might consider finding something to do here other than to try to
start arguments with people you don't like, eh? What's it to you whether
I use asterisks, commas, or nothing at all between the letters?

Wow, a little touchy on that one, eh?

I didn't realize it was so sensitive an issue.



Just thought you might be interested in being less of a snarkass.

You apparently don't consider your anti-religion posts to be a tad 'snarkass'? Are you not trying to
antagonize folks with that crap?



I'm not aware of the religion of any poster here. I recall you said once
you used to be a Roman Catholic, or maybe I am just imagining that.

I am aware that some posters here claim to be Christians, but I'm not
sure what that means. For some of them, it certainly doesn't mean they
follow the teachings of Jesus. Is Christian a religion? I remember one
of my Southern friends telling me that Catholics weren't Christians. I
thought that was absurd. There are so many different Christian sects, I
can't tell one from another. At least with Jews, there are only three
main and a number of really minor varieties. :)

In any event, I have no dispute with those who either believe in or
don't believe in a creator. No one can prove there is one or there isn't
one, so I see no reason to argue over that.

Then just what *is* the rationale behind your continuous anti-religious posting?

If you are trying to learn something about the beliefs of others, just ask. I'm sure anyone who can
do so will gladly answer your question.