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Poco Loco February 15th 14 01:41 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.


Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.


Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.


FOAD February 15th 14 03:00 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On 2/15/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.


Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.


Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.


So, your buddy is planning to welcome the newcomers with buckshot? How
neighborly.

Poco Loco February 15th 14 03:01 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:00:22 -0500, FOAD wrote:

On 2/15/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.

Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.


Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.


So, your buddy is planning to welcome the newcomers with buckshot? How
neighborly.


And you talk about how much you've changed!

Hee, hee.


BAR[_2_] February 15th 14 03:55 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
In article , says...

On 2/15/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.

Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.


Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.


So, your buddy is planning to welcome the newcomers with buckshot? How
neighborly.


What is it like to not be allowed to posses firearms?

Tim February 15th 14 06:27 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:39:36 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know

- even 0 would be fine.



John, the guys that go to the skeet shoots run through a bunch of shells and do an extensive amount of reloading for economic as well as controlled quality purposes. If you can't fined any on the 'net, then you might ask someone at a gun club to custom load some for you, or ask about it at your local gun dealer.

Poco Loco February 15th 14 06:53 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:53:26 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:41:53 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.

Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.


Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.


I like the blue tees. I paid for the whole course and I want to use it
no matter how many strokes it takes. ;-)

#4 buck is a popular defense round. Unfortunately 16ga is close to
orphan status. It is not as bad as 28 gauge but close.
I think most of the ammo is loaded for people shooting 4 gun skeet.

You may not be finding much besides bird shot at the high volume
places. Midway lists the #1 buck but they were out of stock.
I would google around and see what you can come up with.


I'm still entering my scores in the USGA handicapping system. If I played from the blues, it would
take me a stroke or two just to get to the yellows.

Yeah, I checked Midland, Sportsmansguide, Cabelas, etc., no one had any in stock, if they even sold
it.

My first shotgun was a double-barreled 16 gauge. I didn't know they'd gone out of fashion. Of
course, I haven't done any hunting for 35 years. Maybe that's why I'm not up to speed.


Poco Loco February 15th 14 06:55 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:27:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 8:39:36 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know

- even 0 would be fine.



John, the guys that go to the skeet shoots run through a bunch of shells and do an extensive amount of reloading for economic as well as controlled quality purposes. If you can't fined any on the 'net, then you might ask someone at a gun club to custom load some for you, or ask about it at your local gun dealer.


Heck with it. I've got a 12 gauge. WalMart is full of 12 gauge ammo, including 00 buckshot. I think
if I were my buddy, I'd load whatever I could find, even #6. A couple rounds of that at 4-5 yards
should make a person think about getting any closer.


Poco Loco February 15th 14 07:32 PM

Shotgun for Home Defense
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:18:32 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:53:04 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:53:26 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:41:53 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:31:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:39:36 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I tried to find some on the net, but couldn't. If you come across a place that sells it, let me know
- even 0 would be fine.

Federal loads #1 buck in 16 ga. That should do the trick.
From a legal standpoint you might be better off with bird shot tho.

Not me, but a friend who lives out in Nokesville (close to the Prince William Golf Course). Used to
be country, but the townhouses are marching his way. Once they march across Vint Hill Road he won't
have much time left before he's surrounded. I came across an article suggesting that #4 buckshot
would be a decent short range load. But I can't find any on the net. I'd like to get him a box (five
rounds) of #4 or larger pellet size.

For some reason he seems to be getting antsy about living out on the farm with only his wife. He's
81. Shoots in the high 80's. Wants to shoot his age, but doesn't want to budge off the white tees to
do it.

I like the blue tees. I paid for the whole course and I want to use it
no matter how many strokes it takes. ;-)

#4 buck is a popular defense round. Unfortunately 16ga is close to
orphan status. It is not as bad as 28 gauge but close.
I think most of the ammo is loaded for people shooting 4 gun skeet.

You may not be finding much besides bird shot at the high volume
places. Midway lists the #1 buck but they were out of stock.
I would google around and see what you can come up with.


I'm still entering my scores in the USGA handicapping system. If I played from the blues, it would
take me a stroke or two just to get to the yellows.

Yeah, I checked Midland, Sportsmansguide, Cabelas, etc., no one had any in stock, if they even sold
it.

My first shotgun was a double-barreled 16 gauge. I didn't know they'd gone out of fashion. Of
course, I haven't done any hunting for 35 years. Maybe that's why I'm not up to speed.


The 12 gauge just dominates the market. They can load high performance
12ga rounds that mimic most 10 ga loads and you can download a 12 to
get recoil like a 20. I used to shoot a fairly mild skeet load (2 3/4
dram 1 1/8 oz) when I was shooting a lot of skeet but we might be
shooting 4 rounds a night (100 shots). It was always at least 2, just
for the league rounds.
We usually shot a warm up and after the league rounds we might shoot
one just for fun. (doubles from all stations and such
With a fairly light over and under, that can catch up to you.
My ex had a soft shooting 1100 and she could shoot all day.


BTW on the 16, one issue is the size of the shell itself. I am not
sure you can even stack 00 in the shot cup evenly. They are a snug fit
3x3x3 in a 12 gauge. It is just the geometry.


No, I don't think they could fit more than three or four balls in a 16 gauge shot cup. The largest
shot size I've seen for 16 gauge is the Federal #1 buckshot.



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