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F.O.A.D. February 10th 14 10:58 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Mr. Luddite February 10th 14 11:38 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?



Mr. Luddite February 10th 14 11:41 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 5:58 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news
reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays
themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.



I must be dumber than dirt because I don't detect any racism in John's
posts. Realism maybe, but not racism.



Mr. Luddite February 10th 14 11:52 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.



Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

Tim February 11th 14 12:28 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:48:57 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:33 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:06:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM,
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim


wrote:




On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:




I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for




you.








Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get




drunk/stoned)




Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ



It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful


employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked


out of the Army.








I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained


case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate


knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of


working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.


Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.




Perhaps I should. I would bet I have known more bums than you have


and the only ones you wife sees are the ones who want help or get


there by court order. I bet they walk away from treatment pretty


quickly.


Has she ever actually cured one? (call it 5 years productive and sober


just to make it a valid number)






How long would a homeless camp last next to your house? Hours?


Minutes?


I have already pointed out your beach towns have far stricter (perhaps


unconstitutional) laws against the homeless. I assume you are down


there protesting.






You're a funny guy. :)


Harry, what's so funny about Greg's simple question and brief statement? Looked ok to me.

Tim February 11th 14 12:30 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:






I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained




case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate




knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of




working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.




Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained


case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate


knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of


working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"




If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.



We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


I used to watch a lot of programming on "The Health Channel". That didn't qualify me to be a physician. Or did it?

F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 12:34 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/14, 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?




Are you serious?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Mr. Luddite February 11th 14 12:41 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 7:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally
trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and
intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?




Are you serious?



Absolutely. With that kind of horsepower applied to a problem one would
expect some serious social progress to have been made.

Heck, even lowly engineers have made great strides in problem solving in
that time frame. 25 years ago (or so) people were playing Asteroids
on Atari consoles.



Poco Loco February 11th 14 12:45 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:58:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.


Never bashed black kids either, Harry. That's another story made up by you and your buddy.


Wayne.B February 11th 14 01:04 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:38:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?


===

It's a lot easier to talk the talk than it is to walk the walk.

Boating All Out February 11th 14 01:05 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


No doubt you had a lot in common with the "urban" homeless because so
many of them were starving with their liberal arts degree. ;-)

That still has little to do with the stumble bums that inhabit the
camps in Florida, at least according to the people who study them
here.
They tend to be substance abusers, perhaps registered sex offenders
according to the last round of articles and news shows. Most could be
diagnosed with some kind of mental problem. Of course, if you ask a
psychologist, everyone has some kind of mental problem.


I don't know how many "homeless" people there are now.
There will always be some fitting your description.
It used to be mostly mentally disturbed people and winos.
But widespread, it's an "economic" problem.
More jobs will get rid of much of it.


Tim February 11th 14 01:20 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:41:15 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
25 years ago (or so) people were playing Asteroids

on Atari consoles.



I still have a couple machines, with the cartridges too. (Froger and Breakout are my favorites.)

[email protected] February 11th 14 01:56 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
Krausebag wrote:
I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D ...


Don't forget Krausebag, that she also and a medical doctor's degree and another PhD. You're a lucky guy to live with such an accomplished woman!

KC February 11th 14 08:31 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 5:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:






I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained




case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate




knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of




working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.




Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained


case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate


knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of


working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"




If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

But, we're not talking about 'her'.


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



I very seriously doubt that, that is unless you spend at least a couple weeks a year for the past 7 years working in soup kitchens in Peoria and St. Louis.- or similar places.


I go away for a day and you guys are all over each and every lie sent
your way...LOL!

KC February 11th 14 08:33 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/10/2014 7:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:






I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained




case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate




knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of




working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.




Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained


case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate


knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of


working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"




If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.








I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.


Oh bull ****ing ****....



We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


I used to watch a lot of programming on "The Health Channel". That didn't qualify me to be a physician. Or did it?



Hank February 11th 14 11:59 AM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 3:31 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally
trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

But, we're not talking about 'her'.


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



I very seriously doubt that, that is unless you spend at least a
couple weeks a year for the past 7 years working in soup kitchens in
Peoria and St. Louis.- or similar places.


I go away for a day and you guys are all over each and every lie sent
your way...LOL!


Another day another lie from our beloved YKW.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 12:43 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.



Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?


~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 01:04 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?


~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 01:27 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?


~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?


Hee-hee!


F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 01:43 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?


Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.



--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 01:48 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?


Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 01:50 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 02:06 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.


Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based, accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.


Mr. Luddite February 11th 14 02:15 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required
to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense.
It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill
up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping
on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to
which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.



I can help. Rather than post links, just google "homeless refuse
shelter". I got over 4 million pertinent responses, many with articles
based upon studies. There are many, many reasons but drugs, alcohol
addiction and/or the fear of living in an environment rich with these
issues are major concerns.



F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 02:16 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.


Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based, accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.


What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?

I've read about studies that indicate a significant number of the
homeless are military vets who came home from Vietnam or Iraq or
Afghanistan with serious emotional problems. It's been a while since
I've read such an article, but I know that part of the problem was the
failure of the military or the VA to recognize and treat some of these
disorders, and the guys suffering from them just disintegrated mentally
and emotionally.

Do you fellows have such a lack of compassion that you have to cast
further aspersions on these sufferers and the many others in this
country who find themselves without a home, without a hope, and too
mentally ill to take advantage of what little bits of help that might be
available?



--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 02:41 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:16:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.


Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based, accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.


What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?

I've read about studies that indicate a significant number of the
homeless are military vets who came home from Vietnam or Iraq or
Afghanistan with serious emotional problems. It's been a while since
I've read such an article, but I know that part of the problem was the
failure of the military or the VA to recognize and treat some of these
disorders, and the guys suffering from them just disintegrated mentally
and emotionally.

Do you fellows have such a lack of compassion that you have to cast
further aspersions on these sufferers and the many others in this
country who find themselves without a home, without a hope, and too
mentally ill to take advantage of what little bits of help that might be
available?


Who cast aspersions on the homeless?

You keep making up things. Today it's 'aspersions on the homeless', yesterday it was 'racism against
black kids' and 'taking away blankets', and my 'hatred of gays'.

Why do you do that?


Mr. Luddite February 11th 14 02:48 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.


Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 02:55 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 9:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:16:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based, accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.


What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?

I've read about studies that indicate a significant number of the
homeless are military vets who came home from Vietnam or Iraq or
Afghanistan with serious emotional problems. It's been a while since
I've read such an article, but I know that part of the problem was the
failure of the military or the VA to recognize and treat some of these
disorders, and the guys suffering from them just disintegrated mentally
and emotionally.

Do you fellows have such a lack of compassion that you have to cast
further aspersions on these sufferers and the many others in this
country who find themselves without a home, without a hope, and too
mentally ill to take advantage of what little bits of help that might be
available?


Who cast aspersions on the homeless?

You keep making up things. Today it's 'aspersions on the homeless', yesterday it was 'racism against
black kids' and 'taking away blankets', and my 'hatred of gays'.

Why do you do that?



Perhaps it is because you have such disdain for the homeless, blacks,
latinos, gays, women, et cetera.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 03:00 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier question.

Mr. Luddite February 11th 14 03:12 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.



I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.




F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 03:24 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 10:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.



I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.




But, to continue in play the wrecked.bloats game...do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Mr. Luddite February 11th 14 03:54 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 10:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 10:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of
homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and
guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate
the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query
was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are
going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an
answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.



I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.







But, to continue in play the wrecked.bloats game...do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?




Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?
Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate
the question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed guess.

Whoops. Plagiarism.

The bottom line is that the referenced ordinance has nothing to do with
"taking blankets away from the homeless". It prohibits camping in
certain public areas.




Hank February 11th 14 04:03 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?


Hee-hee!

Doesn't get any snarkier than that. Are you going to call him on it?

Hank February 11th 14 04:05 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.

Almost every post of his is one big snark. Can you sand it?

Hank February 11th 14 04:12 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 10:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 10:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of
homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and
guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate
the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query
was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are
going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an
answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.



I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.




But, to continue in play the wrecked.bloats game...do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

Don't know about moral, but it sure would be cruel. Do you know for a
fact that it ever happened?

Poco Loco February 11th 14 05:07 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:55:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 9:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:16:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based, accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.


What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?

I've read about studies that indicate a significant number of the
homeless are military vets who came home from Vietnam or Iraq or
Afghanistan with serious emotional problems. It's been a while since
I've read such an article, but I know that part of the problem was the
failure of the military or the VA to recognize and treat some of these
disorders, and the guys suffering from them just disintegrated mentally
and emotionally.

Do you fellows have such a lack of compassion that you have to cast
further aspersions on these sufferers and the many others in this
country who find themselves without a home, without a hope, and too
mentally ill to take advantage of what little bits of help that might be
available?


Who cast aspersions on the homeless?

You keep making up things. Today it's 'aspersions on the homeless', yesterday it was 'racism against
black kids' and 'taking away blankets', and my 'hatred of gays'.

Why do you do that?



Perhaps it is because you have such disdain for the homeless, blacks,
latinos, gays, women, et cetera.


No, I have disdain for those who make up stories and present them as something other than fairy
tales. None of the groups you mentioned are known for making up stories. None of them are, as a
group, liars.

Got it?



Hank February 11th 14 05:08 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/2014 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.

Harry never liked JFK.

Poco Loco February 11th 14 05:09 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 10:12 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 10:00 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 9:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and
professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work
and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your
years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless
folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is
required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common
sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does
not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats.
You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce
that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to
fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical,
right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any
such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a
wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you
entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report
for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't
camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer
to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a
fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.


The answer is that there is no answer without doing a significant
amount
of research, which is exactly what I said when I stated the query was
too hypothetical.

Do you really think Luddite was looking for a scientifically-based,
accurate answer? I think he used
'imaginary' and 'do you think' in his query.

Sure there's an answer. I'd think probably less than 10 would get on
the bus. Maybe only one or two,
those who could overcome the peer pressure.




What's the point of asking a question like that if all you are going to
get is uninformed guesses, mostly from people who have an obviously
dislike for the homeless, no matter how the homeless got into the
situation they find themselves?


I was asking *you*.



I answered your question. I said it was too much of a supposition for me
to answer, since I had no legitimate research on which to base an answer.

But here's something to ponder...is it moral to take a blanket away from
a homeless person living outdoors in the cold? That's a lot easier
question.



I've read the Pensacola ordnance. I've read opponents' views and
supporter's views.

The issue of taking away blankets from the homeless is an emotion
charged claim by some taken entirely out of context with the ordnance.
The ordnance prohibits *camping* in certain public areas, which to me
is a perfectly legitimate and moral thing to do. It's the liberal press
and liberal progressives who have interpreted that to mean that
Pensacola's mayor is "taking blankets away" from the homeless.




But, to continue in play the wrecked.bloats game...do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?


Stealing blankets is wrong, whether it be from the homeless or Bed, Bath and Beyond.


Poco Loco February 11th 14 05:14 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:05:45 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/11/2014 8:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


Not quite. I had a nice, fun job when I got my letter. Wasn't camping on the streets.

Don't you just hate it when someone asks you a question, the answer to which you can't provide
without blowing your argument right in the ass or looking like a fool?

That seems to happen a lot to both of you.

Almost every post of his is one big snark. Can you stand it?


I see them more as cries for help.


F.O.A.D. February 11th 14 06:09 PM

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 
On 2/11/14, 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.


I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.


My friends and I, as you put it, did not associate serving this country
with going to Vietnam and killing Southeast Asians.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.


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