On 1/30/2014 2:03 PM, Califbill wrote:
Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:28:13 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

...of Atlanta, you'd think he was a Republican. Maybe CNN is simply
trying to give lessons on 'How
to be an Asshole'.

Should have told people to stay home.
Don't have the guts to "interrupt" business and school.
It happens. The smart ones stayed home.

Yup. School folks, government folks, business folks, TV 'journalists', and probably some
tourists...all stupid. Should have stayed home.


Yup. Every time they get snow or ice down south it's a "disaster."
They were warned by the weatherman.
Shut 'er down.
And if "they" don't, take personal responsibity for yourself.
Or wait in traffic for +24 hours.

The problem here and probably there is all those people with 4 wheel drive.
Years ago, they rarely closed Donner Pass during snow storms. People ran
chains and the speed limit was / is 25 mph when chain controls are in
effect. But with all those 4x4 mini pickups, the idiots would drive 70 mph
and cause huge wrecks. So now the CHP will run caravans at slow speed, or
close the highway if not enough cops to caravan.


After years of daydreaming, last time we were out in a blizzard it
finally happened... Some asshole who was driving like an asshole, not
giving a ****, was wrapped around a pole about five miles down the road
from where we first encountered the ****head... I laughed, you bet I
did. I consider guys like that no different than someone who would pull
a gun on me on the sidewalk... Just this weapon has a 2000 pound
projectile, not a tiny little ball of lead. Same difference though,
point it at me, I have to think you want to kill me... so I will react
in kind if forced to....

On 1/30/14, 3:14 PM, KC wrote:

After years of daydreaming, last time we were out in a blizzard it
finally happened... Some asshole who was driving like an asshole, not
giving a ****, was wrapped around a pole about five miles down the road
from where we first encountered the ****head... I laughed, you bet I
did.


Wow.


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:23:51 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/30/14, 3:14 PM, KC wrote:



After years of daydreaming, last time we were out in a blizzard it

finally happened... Some asshole who was driving like an asshole, not

giving a ****, was wrapped around a pole about five miles down the road

from where we first encountered the ****head... I laughed, you bet I

did.





Wow.





--

There's no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.


Ingersoll seems to be going out of his way to be a bad ass.
must be a 'Walter Mitty' kind of thing.

On 1/30/2014 11:03 AM, Califbill wrote:

In my youth, I went to Ohio for a years training with NCR. New 1964 Impala
SS and was getting what I thought was snow in Missouri. Was sleet, and by
the time I reached St. Louis, there was a 1/4 inch of ice under 6 inches of
snow. Was scary. Could not believe how many cars stuck in the center
divider ditch. I kept to about 25 mph and still spun out twice. Once on an
ice bridge when the wheels started to spin and I slowed down and engine
died as I did not put in the clutch. And once ran off the road, as I lost
where the edge was.

That sounds like a drive I took from Detroit to Grand Rapids in a '68 VW
Beetle during a huge overnight ice storm. I was at the edge of traction
sliding the whole way but probably averaged 40-50 mph. The VW did well
compared to all the trucks and cars off the road. My biggest problem
was the lack of defroster and freezing rain on the windshield that would
cause the wipers to stick. I cracked the windshield whacking it with my
hand to free the wipers... that and the gas pedal linkage freezing.

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:03:47 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:


In my youth, I went to Ohio for a years training with NCR. New 1964 Impala

SS and was getting what I thought was snow in Missouri. Was sleet, and by

the time I reached St. Louis, there was a 1/4 inch of ice under 6 inches of

snow. Was scary. Could not believe how many cars stuck in the center

divider ditch. I kept to about 25 mph and still spun out twice. Once on an

ice bridge when the wheels started to spin and I slowed down and engine

died as I did not put in the clutch. And once ran off the road, as I lost

where the edge was.

All on boas ply tires too! A modern set of radials would have helped a lot. But that was then-and this is now...

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:58:55 PM UTC-6, thumper wrote:


That sounds like a drive I took from Detroit to Grand Rapids in a '68 VW

Beetle during a huge overnight ice storm. I was at the edge of traction

sliding the whole way but probably averaged 40-50 mph. The VW did well

compared to all the trucks and cars off the road.

That was courtesy of the rear engine weight and lighter front end, plus independent back suspension

My biggest problem

was the lack of defroster and freezing rain on the windshield that would

cause the wipers to stick. I cracked the windshield whacking it with my

hand to free the wipers... that and the gas pedal linkage freezing.

Too bad your bug wasn't equipped with a gasoline heater...

On 1/30/2014 9:08 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:58:55 PM UTC-6, thumper wrote:


That sounds like a drive I took from Detroit to Grand Rapids in a '68 VW

Beetle during a huge overnight ice storm. I was at the edge of traction

sliding the whole way but probably averaged 40-50 mph. The VW did well

compared to all the trucks and cars off the road.

That was courtesy of the rear engine weight and lighter front end, plus independent back suspension

My biggest problem

was the lack of defroster and freezing rain on the windshield that would

cause the wipers to stick. I cracked the windshield whacking it with my

hand to free the wipers... that and the gas pedal linkage freezing.

Too bad your bug wasn't equipped with a gasoline heater...

Yup, just a poor college student...

I suffered afew years with a new 1972 Beetle.
I built a house in 1976 about 18 miles from downtown and all winter I'd turn the heater off before getting home.
If I didn't remember to open the heater vents back up before exiting the car, they froze and the next morning I'd be driving blind for the first 5 miles. I eventually added a garage to my Cape Cod style house.

I suffered afew years with a new 1972 Beetle.
I built a house in 1976 about 18 miles from downtown and all winter I'd turn the heater off before getting home.
If I didn't remember to open the heater vents back up before exiting the car, they froze and the next morning I'd be driving blind for the first 5 miles. I eventually added a garage to my Cape Cod style house.

On Friday, January 31, 2014 1:14:32 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:08:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



On Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:58:55 PM UTC-6, thumper wrote:





That sounds like a drive I took from Detroit to Grand Rapids in a '68 VW



Beetle during a huge overnight ice storm. I was at the edge of traction



sliding the whole way but probably averaged 40-50 mph. The VW did well



compared to all the trucks and cars off the road.



That was courtesy of the rear engine weight and lighter front end, plus independent back suspension



My biggest problem



was the lack of defroster and freezing rain on the windshield that would



cause the wipers to stick. I cracked the windshield whacking it with my



hand to free the wipers... that and the gas pedal linkage freezing.



Too bad your bug wasn't equipped with a gasoline heater...



Old beetles had that carbon monoxide heater, right off the exhaust

manifold and no fan. Going down the road it worked OK if you were

driving a ways.

How well do I remember. I was raised in a '64 bug...