Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:22:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.




I also thought at one point that "Adblock" was causing a conflict for
John. I've been using Adblock for so long that I forgot what browsers,
videos and even Facebook looked like without Adblock enabled, so I
temporarily disabled it. OMG! What a mess! Many YouTube videos make
you watch a 20-30 second advertisement before running the video. Same
with most of the network videos from news channels. Turned Adblock back
on fast.

Adblock doesn't block advertisements on HULU videos, I noticed. And
some of the network videos are catching on. I went to watch a video
posted by ABC news the other day and a notice came up to the effect of:

"We were unable to load the advertisement that precedes this video.
Advertisements allow us to bring you the latest" ... blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, a 25 second countdown was running and when it reached zero,
the video played.

It's not Adblock. I did the on and off bit with that after you mentioned it last time.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.

*You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.*


A trait he shares with YKW

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could be.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.

I know you are tired of hearing this but that video played fine on my
laptop using Firefox.

Forget about those "global settings" that you see when you right click
on the video. They are meaningless in terms of simply viewing the video.

Somehow "Flash" is not enabled in IE or Firefox on your computer. I
don't know why not and I know you've installed it. I guess you'll just
have to settle for Chrome.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 11:24 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.


Could be. I just went to the Adobe Flash Player download site and it
automatically detected that I was using a Windows 64 bit system and was
viewing in Firefox.

John might want to take a look at the detailed "system requirements" as
well. I don't know what he has for a computer (other than it's an XP
machine). Maybe it is lacking the minimum requirements in terms of CPU
speed, RAM and video memory.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:54:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.



Curiousity got the best of me, so I installed Windoze 7 on my Macbook
Air, installed Firefox, went over to youtube and was told I needed to
install Adobe Flash, which I did. Once I did, I had no problems playing
the youtube videos.

I also got what looks like 300
+ hours of Windoze 7 updates to install that were released
after my copy of that OS was purchased, and I'll bet that like always,
many of them will require restarting the computer. What a pain in the ass.

I've not had any problems with any of the YouTube videos in any of the browsers.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be having the problem.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.