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Mr. Luddite January 28th 14 03:22 PM

Ping: John
 
On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.




I also thought at one point that "Adblock" was causing a conflict for
John. I've been using Adblock for so long that I forgot what browsers,
videos and even Facebook looked like without Adblock enabled, so I
temporarily disabled it. OMG! What a mess! Many YouTube videos make
you watch a 20-30 second advertisement before running the video. Same
with most of the network videos from news channels. Turned Adblock back
on fast.

Adblock doesn't block advertisements on HULU videos, I noticed. And
some of the network videos are catching on. I went to watch a video
posted by ABC news the other day and a notice came up to the effect of:

"We were unable to load the advertisement that precedes this video.
Advertisements allow us to bring you the latest" ... blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, a 25 second countdown was running and when it reached zero,
the video played.

Boating All Out January 28th 14 03:24 PM

Ping: John
 
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.


It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.


Mr. Luddite January 28th 14 03:44 PM

Ping: John
 
On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.



F.O.A.D. January 28th 14 03:54 PM

Ping: John
 
On 1/28/14, 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.



Curiousity got the best of me, so I installed Windoze 7 on my Macbook
Air, installed Firefox, went over to youtube and was told I needed to
install Adobe Flash, which I did. Once I did, I had no problems playing
the youtube videos.

I also got what looks like 300
+ hours of Windoze 7 updates to install that were released
after my copy of that OS was purchased, and I'll bet that like always,
many of them will require restarting the computer. What a pain in the ass.


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Poco Loco January 28th 14 03:58 PM

Ping: John
 
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:14:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:38:10 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 8:32 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:52:12 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 5:12 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:05:59 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Here's something for you to try in Chrome. (or Firefox if you want to
try also)

This is a short video my wife took with her iPhone. She claims she has
learned how to play our piano. :-)

It was originally a .mov file in her iPhone.

I converted it to an .avi file and then to a .wmv file using Windows
Movie Maker.

Then, I uploaded it to Photobucket. If you right click on it, it shows
it is playing using the Adobe Flash Player, however Photobucket lists
it as a .mp4 file.

Be interesting to see if your computer can view it in Chrome or Firefox.

http://s802.photobucket.com/user/Eisboch/media/Annaplaysthepiano.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0

'Mack the Knife' -- Chrome is a 'yes'.

Firefox and IE are both a 'no'.


Try uninstalling flash and downloading the latest version. Firefox needs
a plug in. I think flash is one of the ones that loads "bonus" software
if you don't un check it. Watch every screen you come to in the install
process.

I've done that a couple times. Flash (12.0.0.43) wants to load Chrome, and maybe MacAfee, but it's
bypassable. I've got the latest version on both IE and Firefox, and 'always activate' is the
setting.

They work in Chrome. That's good enough.


Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.


Nope. I don't use IE. I've been using Firefox for years. Now I've got Chrome loaded and finding
it's not bad. I think it's a lot more robust than either of the other two.


I use Chrome on the iMac mainly because it retains the browser window
size. Safari doesn't. Everytime I open Safari I have to do the
command and + thing to expand the display.

Haven't found any need to install Firefox on the iMac, however I *did*
install Thunderbird, mainly because I like it and use it on the Windows
laptops.



I'm not sure why I didn't like Chrome last time I installed it - maybe a year or so ago. I've never
tried Safari, and I use MS Outlook for email, calendar, contacts, etc. As a matter of fact, it's
reminding me that I need to clean the coils in the refrigerator.


Poco Loco January 28th 14 04:00 PM

Ping: John
 
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:41:37 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.


It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.


Do you think the inability to see the videos is a Firefox problem that somehow gets transported to
IE? I'll use Chrome for a week or two, and if it works out get rid of Firefox. It's not like I paid
a lot of money for it.


Poco Loco January 28th 14 04:02 PM

Ping: John
 
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.


It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I had to call for help with
Windows.


F.O.A.D. January 28th 14 04:02 PM

Ping: John
 
On 1/28/14, 11:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:41:37 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.


It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.


Do you think the inability to see the videos is a Firefox problem that somehow gets transported to
IE? I'll use Chrome for a week or two, and if it works out get rid of Firefox. It's not like I paid
a lot of money for it.



Just how much did you pay for that copy of Firefox? :)


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Boating All Out January 28th 14 04:06 PM

Ping: John
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.


Well, be my guest.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.


Look, he's got a vid problem caused by installing software.
Whether the software caused it or he tinkered with a setting.
BFD. I don't know where you got the idea I said installing software
causes most people problems. But it happened to John, and wouldn't have
if he hadn't installed the other browsers or tinkered with settings.
Stick to picking up typos. By the time you figure out what's wrong I
think John could have reinstalled Window about 20 times.
And fixed his problem. Until next time.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.


Huh? I don't want or need "followers."
Weird.



Mr. Luddite January 28th 14 04:13 PM

Ping: John
 
On 1/28/2014 11:06 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.


Well, be my guest.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.


Look, he's got a vid problem caused by installing software.
Whether the software caused it or he tinkered with a setting.
BFD. I don't know where you got the idea I said installing software
causes most people problems. But it happened to John, and wouldn't have
if he hadn't installed the other browsers or tinkered with settings.
Stick to picking up typos. By the time you figure out what's wrong I
think John could have reinstalled Window about 20 times.
And fixed his problem. Until next time.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.


Huh? I don't want or need "followers."
Weird.



My hunch is his problem is caused by the *lack* of some required software.




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