On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:56:01 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Forgotten the joys of chkdsk on windoze... Yawn.

What the hell are you doing with chkdsk? Windows for Workgroups?
That's an old one, for sure.



Chkdsk is one of the tools that is easily available on Windoze 7. It's
still useful, if maddeningly slow. It can find and repair simple
problems that might come up on hard drives running Windoze.

The 'chkdsk' tool has been around for a long time. Glad you found it
and hope it helps.


I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.

In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:56:01 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Forgotten the joys of chkdsk on windoze... Yawn.

What the hell are you doing with chkdsk? Windows for Workgroups?
That's an old one, for sure.



Chkdsk is one of the tools that is easily available on Windoze 7. It's
still useful, if maddeningly slow. It can find and repair simple
problems that might come up on hard drives running Windoze.

The 'chkdsk' tool has been around for a long time. Glad you found it
and hope it helps.


I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.

I did on a heavily used 500gb drive on my Win7 system. 4 years old.
Took about 30 seconds. Zero bad files or clusters.
Harry's living in the past.

On 1/27/2014 11:33 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:56:01 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Forgotten the joys of chkdsk on windoze... Yawn.

What the hell are you doing with chkdsk? Windows for Workgroups?
That's an old one, for sure.



Chkdsk is one of the tools that is easily available on Windoze 7. It's
still useful, if maddeningly slow. It can find and repair simple
problems that might come up on hard drives running Windoze.

The 'chkdsk' tool has been around for a long time. Glad you found it
and hope it helps.


I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.

I did on a heavily used 500gb drive on my Win7 system. 4 years old.
Took about 30 seconds. Zero bad files or clusters.
Harry's living in the past.


30 seconds to run a check on a 500Gb drive? That's too fast to be
believable.

My Vista laptop only has a 285Gb drive and it took almost 25 minutes.
When chkdsk first started, it just sat there for a while doing nothing.
I was about to close it thinking it wasn't doing anything when it
suddenly started reporting "stage 1 of 3" activities, then "stage 2 of
3", etc. It displayed percentage of completion of the disk scan as it
worked.

Are you sure you didn't shut it down before it even started?

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.

On 1/27/2014 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least
once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS
creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.



Ditto...

On 1/27/2014 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:12:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I am talking about the disk tools, not the virus program.
I have never seen them bundled in the software.
NDD is not in the Windoze XP load.


Ah. I read "Norton" and shuddered. It's difficult to completely remove
it once installed. I thought it was gone on my wife's laptop and she
started getting popups requesting that Norton be re-installed.
I finally found a third party program that completely got rid of
anything to do with the Norton anti-virus program.

On 1/27/2014 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least
once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS
creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I hear you. Also AVG antivirus is worth avoiding. When you have it it's
slow and when you try to get rid of it it keeps on popping up.

On 1/27/2014 12:57 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least
once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS
creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented,
IMO.


I hear you. Also AVG antivirus is worth avoiding. When you have it it's
slow and when you try to get rid of it it keeps on popping up.

Been using AVG (free version) for years. I like it a lot and have
never noticed any ill affects or slow down of the computers, unlike with
Norton or McAfee.

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:12:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I've decided based on some advice from an IT professional that Microsoft Security Essentials is the
way to go. Haven't had a virus yet. [Knock on wood.]

On 1/27/2014 12:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 11:33 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:56:01 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Forgotten the joys of chkdsk on windoze... Yawn.

What the hell are you doing with chkdsk? Windows for Workgroups?
That's an old one, for sure.



Chkdsk is one of the tools that is easily available on Windoze 7.
It's
still useful, if maddeningly slow. It can find and repair simple
problems that might come up on hard drives running Windoze.

The 'chkdsk' tool has been around for a long time. Glad you found it
and hope it helps.


I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least
once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS
creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.

I did on a heavily used 500gb drive on my Win7 system. 4 years old.
Took about 30 seconds. Zero bad files or clusters.
Harry's living in the past.


30 seconds to run a check on a 500Gb drive? That's too fast to be
believable.

My Vista laptop only has a 285Gb drive and it took almost 25 minutes.
When chkdsk first started, it just sat there for a while doing nothing.
I was about to close it thinking it wasn't doing anything when it
suddenly started reporting "stage 1 of 3" activities, then "stage 2 of
3", etc. It displayed percentage of completion of the disk scan as it
worked.

Are you sure you didn't shut it down before it even started?


Don't you need to specify some paramaters when you run it from the
command prompt. I'll bet he forgot.