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Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 12:14 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/2014 6:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:50:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 11:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###
Report Timestamp : January 26, 2014 10:05:17 AM
EST
Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-01-26T10:05:17


Computer Name : Harry’s MacBook Air
Host Name : harrys-macbook-air.local
snipped

Yes, as many as desired, but none of them say, "Harry's MacBook
Air", or have any other reference to
'Harry'.


My task of the moment is getting my wife's Windoze computer to have our
server show up as a shared device or device, like it does on our macs.
So far I haven't figured out which rosetta stone I need to do this.


I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


I think Windows has more privacy options for network sharing than the
Apple OS. With Apple it seems to be "on" or "off". Windows has
several options to choose from and set.



F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 12:36 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/14, 7:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 6:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:50:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 11:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###
Report Timestamp : January 26, 2014 10:05:17 AM
EST
Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-01-26T10:05:17


Computer Name : Harry’s MacBook Air
Host Name : harrys-macbook-air.local
snipped

Yes, as many as desired, but none of them say, "Harry's MacBook
Air", or have any other reference to
'Harry'.


My task of the moment is getting my wife's Windoze computer to have our
server show up as a shared device or device, like it does on our macs.
So far I haven't figured out which rosetta stone I need to do this.

I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


I think Windows has more privacy options for network sharing than the
Apple OS. With Apple it seems to be "on" or "off". Windows has
several options to choose from and set.



Perhaps it is too fine a point, but I wasn't trying to "share" anything
on the Windoze computer. I was trying to access a directory on the
server, which is not running Windoze or the Mac OS. I already had the
Windoze machine "sharing" its data on the server via Windoze 7 backup
software. I figured it out, finally, but it was obtuse. It doesn't help
that neither Apple nor Microsoft give you any real printed reference
materials with their operating systems. Almost everything is "on-line,"
and sometimes not easy to find.

Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 12:44 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/2014 7:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 7:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 6:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:50:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 11:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###
Report Timestamp : January 26, 2014 10:05:17 AM
EST
Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-01-26T10:05:17


Computer Name : Harry’s MacBook Air
Host Name : harrys-macbook-air.local
snipped

Yes, as many as desired, but none of them say, "Harry's MacBook
Air", or have any other reference to
'Harry'.


My task of the moment is getting my wife's Windoze computer to have
our
server show up as a shared device or device, like it does on our macs.
So far I haven't figured out which rosetta stone I need to do this.

I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


I think Windows has more privacy options for network sharing than the
Apple OS. With Apple it seems to be "on" or "off". Windows has
several options to choose from and set.



Perhaps it is too fine a point, but I wasn't trying to "share" anything
on the Windoze computer. I was trying to access a directory on the
server, which is not running Windoze or the Mac OS. I already had the
Windoze machine "sharing" its data on the server via Windoze 7 backup
software. I figured it out, finally, but it was obtuse. It doesn't help
that neither Apple nor Microsoft give you any real printed reference
materials with their operating systems. Almost everything is "on-line,"
and sometimes not easy to find.


Ah, I understand. I had problems just trying to get the iMac and
Windows machines to talk to each other via the home network.

One thing I've noticed (and don't understand) is why software updates
released by Apple take so long to install. It's not machine related
.... seems to be on both my Vista and iMac. For example, iTunes recently
had an update. It was a fairly large file but downloaded in a
reasonable period of time to both machines. But when it went to
install, it took longer than the download did, again on both machines.
At first I thought something screwed up and was about to cancel the
install but then the bar starting moving again.

Hank January 27th 14 01:38 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/2014 6:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:50:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 11:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###
Report Timestamp : January 26, 2014 10:05:17 AM
EST
Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-01-26T10:05:17


Computer Name : Harry’s MacBook Air
Host Name : harrys-macbook-air.local
snipped

Yes, as many as desired, but none of them say, "Harry's MacBook
Air", or have any other reference to
'Harry'.


My task of the moment is getting my wife's Windoze computer to have our
server show up as a shared device or device, like it does on our macs.
So far I haven't figured out which rosetta stone I need to do this.


I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


WAS? Apparently our efforts to educate you have borne fruit.

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 02:57 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/14, 8:38 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/27/2014 6:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:50:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 11:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###
Report Timestamp : January 26, 2014 10:05:17 AM
EST
Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-01-26T10:05:17


Computer Name : Harry’s MacBook Air
Host Name : harrys-macbook-air.local
snipped

Yes, as many as desired, but none of them say, "Harry's MacBook
Air", or have any other reference to
'Harry'.


My task of the moment is getting my wife's Windoze computer to have our
server show up as a shared device or device, like it does on our macs.
So far I haven't figured out which rosetta stone I need to do this.

I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


WAS? Apparently our efforts to educate you have borne fruit.



Actually, you were no help at all. But I am getting a giggle out of
watching you and a few of your compadres trying hard to keep rec.boats a
septic tank. I'm glad I'm not participating in your efforts.

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 05:25 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/14, 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:48:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM,
wrote:

I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.


Windows got cranky on the network at release 7, one reason why I like
the dinosaur XP OS.

It is supposed to be for enhanced security.
I can understand that if you are a WiFi guy but my network is wired.
You would have to break in and plug in a cable to get to me.


You know NSA has invisible dongles, right? :)

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 06:02 PM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
On 1/27/2014 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:25:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 12:13 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:48:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 1:07 AM,
wrote:

I always wondered how well Apple acted on a network with Windoze
machines.

I just plug them in and they go here.


As I stated, the Apple machines have no problems finding and displaying
the network and what is attached to the network, which, by the way is
not running on the Apple or Windoze OS. It's the Windoze machine that
was the minor pain to get onto the network.

Windows got cranky on the network at release 7, one reason why I like
the dinosaur XP OS.

It is supposed to be for enhanced security.
I can understand that if you are a WiFi guy but my network is wired.
You would have to break in and plug in a cable to get to me.


You know NSA has invisible dongles, right? :)


Those still require that somebody get access to your hardware.
Realistically, if NSA wants to know, they will know unless you are
living in a cabin, off the grid, in Montana and you never go outside.



I remember that the teletype machines and some other equipment on Navy
ships generated what was called a "tempest" hazard. It is an
electromagnetic emission that can be detected and read by a remote receiver.

There is a tempest hazard with wired connections to computers as well.
The electromagnetic emission can be through the cables themselves.
However, since the voltages and current are so low, you'd probably have
to be next to the cable to pick anything up. It's still a concern
however in some communication systems.



Earl[_92_] January 29th 14 01:19 AM

Do the newer versions of Windoze cough up these sorts of reports?
 
F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/26/14, 10:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/26/2014 10:09 AM, F.O.A.D. posted his system info for his
MacBook Air:


Harry, the answer is yes. In Windows you can call up and display more
info than you probably want or need.


For Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7, you click on the "Start"
button, then enter "msinfo32" in the search field. It will appear in
the search results. Click on it and it will open a file with all the
reports you could ever want, from System Summary to detailed component
reports for virtually anything on the computer. You have to expand all
the sub directories in the left pane to see them all. I'd take a screen
shot but there are too many to capture in one picture.



Cool. I've let my knowledge base of Windoze more or less expire.

Yet your narcissism lives!


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