On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:



Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,

says...



On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:



On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:

Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next

week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor

archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You

know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It

would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.

What was the date of his arrival?



Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how

Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.





He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.



===



Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and

actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand

his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for

property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.



You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?

You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.

Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".

But Krause is sure coming out on top.

We'll see how long it lasts.



Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way

rec.boats was.



Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?





You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?



And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about

20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for

another year.



What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)





The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:00:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.

I'm so glad you found something humorous in there, Harry.

On 1/29/2014 1:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:00:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.

I'm so glad you found something humorous in there, Harry.


And it does look like a bitch to get them out....

On 1/29/2014 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.


Yes, that is the kind of filter some of the smaller mx bikes take...
only the one I saw, was not a fiber filter or paper, it was a mesh and I
could see light right through it..

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:32:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.


Yes, that is the kind of filter some of the smaller mx bikes take...
only the one I saw, was not a fiber filter or paper, it was a mesh and I
could see light right through it..

No, mine is almost exactly like the one pictured. Hell, it might even be the one pictured.