On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:49:52 -0500, BAR wrote:

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:20:28 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:40:03 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

extraneous snippage
http://tinyurl.com/mpfq462

Actually, I prefer clams on a red pie pizza.

Did you ever buy your .45 revolver? I'm thinking a .45 ACP revolver might round out the wee
collection nicely.

The S&W Judge is on my list.

You seein' a bunch of rattlers up there? I think you meant the Taurus Judge, or the S&W Governor.
I kinda like that S&W 625 JM, (http://tinyurl.com/88czrkp ) but wish it were more the 'western'
style. Oh well, I can live without a .45 revolver for a while. It'll take a couple years to earn
enough VISA reward points to get it anyway.

Taurs' Judge is a 5 shot and S&W's Governor is a 6 shot, 20% more ammo.

You need a gun fund.

That's a good idea. I might start mowing lawns in the neighborhood.

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:52:03 -0600, Califbill wrote:

BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:23:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:22:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:

I like my Blackhawk, with the interchangable cylinders in 43 ACP and
45 Long Colt. Best of both worlds. Have to admit it usually gets
fired in 45 LC. The custom-built 1911 with adjustable trigger and
match barrel gets most of the ACP ammo.

That, of course, would be *45* ACP. 43 would rattle around a bit. :-)

Thanks. I didn't want to 'question' it, but that's what I thought.
Doesn't the LC cost a bit more
than the ACP? And, is it as available? I've never seen any at WalMart,
for example, but I've found
the ACP there several times.

The advantage of any particular caliaber is gone when there is no ammo
available. Stick with
the basics, 9mm Luger/9x19, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .223/5.56 and .30-06.

Probably more .308 now than .30-06. Nicer round for semi auto rifles,
shorter action required. Actually for a bolt action would also be better
because of case length.

"Wal Mart always seems to have .223 and 30-06. I don't see .308 there very often, and I've seen
30-30 only once in the past many months. I bought a box. Now I can see if the Model 94 will shoot.
It was a gift from my next door neighbor, but I've never fired it.

I'm thinking of giving it to my grandson when he makes Eagle Scout.

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:56:30 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:52:03 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote:


I like single action revolvers except when it comes to dumping out the
casings or inserting fresh rounds.

The S&W I have works SA or DA, but loads like other DA revolvers, with a
cylinder that hinges out.

In the later 1800's I think S&W had top break revolvers. They would shoot
the .44 rim fire cartridge.

One of our family heirlooms is a S&W #3 in.44 Russian. (break top
revolver) It is still up at my brother in law's house in Maryland. I
gave it to my sister years ago and she still had it when she died.
I broke the firing pin off before I gave it to her because she had a
house full of kids and it was just going to be a wall hanger anyway.
(safe ammo is very hard to come by but it will chamber a .44 magnum
...eek!)
I would have brought it home when I was up there after she died but I
did not want the airport hassle.

There were quite a few other break tops around that time but I think
all of them were black powder.
The Webley .455 and sometimes .45ACP with half moon clips is a
somewhat modern break top.
Ye Olde Hunter (the Alexandria Va outlet for Interarnco) sold a bunch
of them for around $20 in the mid 60s but the only ones I saw were in
.,455.
I still thought about buying one a few times but ammo was tough to
find. There was a rumor that a minor milling of the cylinder would
allow the ACP with moon clips. I never pursued it I ended up getting
a Colt Officer's Model Match revolver (with the bull barrel) for about
$40 there. I still have it.

A bit of history:

http://gunlore.awardspace.info/gunknow/interarms.htm

I was in there back in the early 70's. It was like a military arms museum inside, with everything
for sale. But, I was broke.

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:41:30 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:23:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:22:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:

I like my Blackhawk, with the interchangable cylinders in 43 ACP and 45 Long Colt. Best of both worlds. Have to admit it usually gets fired in 45 LC. The custom-built 1911 with adjustable trigger and match barrel gets most of the ACP ammo.

That, of course, would be *45* ACP. 43 would rattle around a bit. :-)

Thanks. I didn't want to 'question' it, but that's what I thought. Doesn't the LC cost a bit more
than the ACP? And, is it as available? I've never seen any at WalMart, for example, but I've found
the ACP there several times.

Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case, FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:41:30 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:23:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:22:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:



I like my Blackhawk, with the interchangable cylinders in 43 ACP and 45 Long Colt. Best of both worlds. Have to admit it usually gets fired in 45 LC. The custom-built 1911 with adjustable trigger and match barrel gets most of the ACP ammo.



That, of course, would be *45* ACP. 43 would rattle around a bit. :-)



Thanks. I didn't want to 'question' it, but that's what I thought. Doesn't the LC cost a bit more

than the ACP? And, is it as available? I've never seen any at WalMart, for example, but I've found

the ACP there several times.

It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.

I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes first. Haven't gotten one of them
either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:

http://tinyurl.com/law82pa

But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local elementary school. The playground
there's not very big.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:35:00 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:01:15 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:56:30 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:52:03 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote:


I like single action revolvers except when it comes to dumping out the
casings or inserting fresh rounds.

The S&W I have works SA or DA, but loads like other DA revolvers, with a
cylinder that hinges out.

In the later 1800's I think S&W had top break revolvers. They would shoot
the .44 rim fire cartridge.

One of our family heirlooms is a S&W #3 in.44 Russian. (break top
revolver) It is still up at my brother in law's house in Maryland. I
gave it to my sister years ago and she still had it when she died.
I broke the firing pin off before I gave it to her because she had a
house full of kids and it was just going to be a wall hanger anyway.
(safe ammo is very hard to come by but it will chamber a .44 magnum
...eek!)
I would have brought it home when I was up there after she died but I
did not want the airport hassle.

There were quite a few other break tops around that time but I think
all of them were black powder.
The Webley .455 and sometimes .45ACP with half moon clips is a
somewhat modern break top.
Ye Olde Hunter (the Alexandria Va outlet for Interarnco) sold a bunch
of them for around $20 in the mid 60s but the only ones I saw were in
.,455.
I still thought about buying one a few times but ammo was tough to
find. There was a rumor that a minor milling of the cylinder would
allow the ACP with moon clips. I never pursued it I ended up getting
a Colt Officer's Model Match revolver (with the bull barrel) for about
$40 there. I still have it.

A bit of history:

http://gunlore.awardspace.info/gunknow/interarms.htm

I was in there back in the early 70's. It was like a military arms museum inside, with everything
for sale. But, I was broke.

Before the GCA 68 kicked in that place was a real gun flea market.
They had stacks of old Mauser type rifles starting at $20 or less but
you really needed to know what you were looking at. It was quite easy
to pick up a real nice looking rifle that used very obscure ammo.
A German Mauser was more like $35-40 depending on condition.
Guys were always browsing through there for rifles to "sporterize".

They also had 20mm anti tank guns and other things you can't have
anymore.
I usually bought something every time I went over there. It was just a
short drive away after they built the Wilson Bridge.

My best deal may have been this 1934 Barretta ($40)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg
This was factory nickel with Italian Army markings made in 1942.
It was probably "never fired and only dropped once" (by an Italian
senior officer). It has all matching serial numbers.
That was my carry piece for many years, hence the wear. It was
pristine when I got it.
I have shot thousands of rounds through it and it points like your
finger. The magazine has a hook that goes under your pinky, combined
with modest recoil so next shot recovery is very fast.
I could dump a whole magazine in the bottom of a coffee cup at 7 yards
in about 5 seconds when I was shooting a lot. I imagine I could hold
it in the saucer right now. That is certainly good enough for a
serious social situation.

Ya, I expect it would be. Nice old gun. Thanks for sharing that.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:38:40 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:03:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:


Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case, FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

I can't really remember the last time I had a misfire.I saw a few at
the skeet range but they were reloaded 12ga. I always shot new ammo.
We were buying it by the pallet at about $2 a box so reloading never
made economic sense to me.

I can't imagine that reloading 9mm would be much cheaper than 20 cents a round.

On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:41:30 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:23:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:







On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:22:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:







I like my Blackhawk, with the interchangable cylinders in 43 ACP and 45 Long Colt. Best of both worlds. Have to admit it usually gets fired in 45 LC. The custom-built 1911 with adjustable trigger and match barrel gets most of the ACP ammo.







That, of course, would be *45* ACP. 43 would rattle around a bit. :-)







Thanks. I didn't want to 'question' it, but that's what I thought. Doesn't the LC cost a bit more



than the ACP? And, is it as available? I've never seen any at WalMart, for example, but I've found



the ACP there several times.



It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.



I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes first. Haven't gotten one of them

either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:



http://tinyurl.com/law82pa



But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local elementary school. The playground

there's not very big.

The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!) on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the other, or you be waiting a while between flights.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:09:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:


It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.



I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes first. Haven't gotten one of them

either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:



http://tinyurl.com/law82pa



But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local elementary school. The playground

there's not very big.

The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!) on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the other, or you be waiting a while between flights.

Yeah, good idea. Do they make chargers that will operate from a car battery? My little helicopter
charges from a USB port on the computer, and I've got a cigarette lighter to USB adaptor (used for
Verizon cell phones), but I don't know if they make that type interface for the LiPo batteries in
the RC planes.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:39:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:54:56 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:38:40 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:03:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:


Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case, FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

I can't really remember the last time I had a misfire.I saw a few at
the skeet range but they were reloaded 12ga. I always shot new ammo.
We were buying it by the pallet at about $2 a box so reloading never
made economic sense to me.

I can't imagine that reloading 9mm would be much cheaper than 20 cents a round.

When I was shooting several times a week I reloaded .38 and .45ACP and
the .38 was about 2 cents a round. There was an IBM guy who cast
wadcutters from wheel weights he scrounged up and sold them for a
penny apiece. It was cheaper if you could barter some lead into the
deal.
I ended up scrounging lead too ;-)

For sure that's cheap.


Primers were less than a penny apiece in those days and a pound of
Bullseye was a virtual lifetime supply at 2.5 gr a shot. My DC cop
buddy kept me stocked with once fired .38 brass in exchange for
rolling up hot loads for him. We ended up with some scary fast stuff.
I had a 125gr round that came out at 1725 FPS on the DC chronograph.
It was really meant for a .357s but he shot them from his model 10
Smith service revolver.

I don't do enough shooting to get into the reload side of the house, and I expect it would cost a
bit more now anyway. Sounds like you had fun, though. Shame my two retired cop brothers aren't still
in the business!