On 1/24/14, 4:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:39:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:54:56 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:38:40 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:03:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:


Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case, FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

I can't really remember the last time I had a misfire.I saw a few at
the skeet range but they were reloaded 12ga. I always shot new ammo.
We were buying it by the pallet at about $2 a box so reloading never
made economic sense to me.

I can't imagine that reloading 9mm would be much cheaper than 20 cents a round.

When I was shooting several times a week I reloaded .38 and .45ACP and
the .38 was about 2 cents a round. There was an IBM guy who cast
wadcutters from wheel weights he scrounged up and sold them for a
penny apiece. It was cheaper if you could barter some lead into the
deal.
I ended up scrounging lead too ;-)

For sure that's cheap.


Primers were less than a penny apiece in those days and a pound of
Bullseye was a virtual lifetime supply at 2.5 gr a shot. My DC cop
buddy kept me stocked with once fired .38 brass in exchange for
rolling up hot loads for him. We ended up with some scary fast stuff.
I had a 125gr round that came out at 1725 FPS on the DC chronograph.
It was really meant for a .357s but he shot them from his model 10
Smith service revolver.

I don't do enough shooting to get into the reload side of the house, and I expect it would cost a
bit more now anyway. Sounds like you had fun, though. Shame my two retired cop brothers aren't still
in the business!



I've never tried TulAmmo, but I have tried some Russian ammo and some of
it has been lousy in terms of leaving behind dirty residue and in a
couple of cases, looking slightly different in size than what I have
found to be more reputable ammo. On the other hand, most of the ammo I
have seen from former Sov Bloc states has been okay. Is the Tul you
bought steel cased?

On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:52:08 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:09:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:





It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.







I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes first. Haven't gotten one of them



either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:







http://tinyurl.com/law82pa







But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local elementary school. The playground



there's not very big.



The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!) on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the other, or you be waiting a while between flights.



Yeah, good idea. Do they make chargers that will operate from a car battery? My little helicopter

charges from a USB port on the computer, and I've got a cigarette lighter to USB adaptor (used for

Verizon cell phones), but I don't know if they make that type interface for the LiPo batteries in

the RC planes.

From a casual look at the plane you linked, it comes with a charger that has large alligator clips for hooking to your car battery. An AC charger would be another extra charge option, although if you wanted one (and it sounds like you don't) I'm not able to recommend one right now. I'd have to do a bit of research.

My planes (and expertise) are gas and glow powered. I do have a couple of small, electric park flyers but they are older nicad powered models. Nothing with LiPo or brushless. There is some cool stuff out there in electrics, and many people are moving to that, but I still love the smell and mess of internal combustion RC. :-)

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:03:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:


Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case,
FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

I can't really remember the last time I had a misfire.I saw a few at
the skeet range but they were reloaded 12ga. I always shot new ammo.
We were buying it by the pallet at about $2 a box so reloading never
made economic sense to me.

When I used to shoot a lot of trap I reloaded. Only misfires I ever had,
were hulls that had been reloaded too many times, and the primer came out.
Never had a misfire other than some 22 I had. Old, or moisture got in.
Was a box of 50 and probably 40 of them would not fire.

wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:52:08 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:09:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:





It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.







I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes
first. Haven't gotten one of them



either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:







http://tinyurl.com/law82pa







But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local
elementary school. The playground



there's not very big.



The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and
land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!)
on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the
other, or you be waiting a while between flights.



Yeah, good idea. Do they make chargers that will operate from a car
battery? My little helicopter

charges from a USB port on the computer, and I've got a cigarette
lighter to USB adaptor (used for

Verizon cell phones), but I don't know if they make that type interface
for the LiPo batteries in

the RC planes.

From a casual look at the plane you linked, it comes with a charger that
has large alligator clips for hooking to your car battery. An AC charger
would be another extra charge option, although if you wanted one (and it
sounds like you don't) I'm not able to recommend one right now. I'd have
to do a bit of research.

My planes (and expertise) are gas and glow powered. I do have a couple
of small, electric park flyers but they are older nicad powered models.
Nothing with LiPo or brushless. There is some cool stuff out there in
electrics, and many people are moving to that, but I still love the smell
and mess of internal combustion RC. :-)

I flew lots of Ucontrol as a kid. After I came back from school and
service, my brother and his kids had lived in the house I grew up in. Only
2 engines that were still there was an .049 diesel and a .049 outboard.
Still have them. Should put them on display in the office.

On Friday, January 24, 2014 8:01:20 PM UTC-5, Califbill wrote:

I flew lots of Ucontrol as a kid. After I came back from school and

service, my brother and his kids had lived in the house I grew up in. Only

2 engines that were still there was an .049 diesel and a .049 outboard.

Still have them. Should put them on display in the office.

So did I, and I still fly one occasionally. I have a stunt plane (with flaps) with a Fox 35, and have a Brodak copy of a Flight Streak in the bones with a Fox 36X combat engine that I'll finish one day. Also a Wingmaster Jr.. with a Fox 15 on it. Cool stuff, but I get a bit dizzy flying them now. :-)

On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:34:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:01:20 -0600, Califbill

wrote:



I flew lots of Ucontrol as a kid. After I came back from school and

service, my brother and his kids had lived in the house I grew up in. Only

2 engines that were still there was an .049 diesel and a .049 outboard.

Still have them. Should put them on display in the office.



Are you talking about one of these?



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Model%20Motor.jpg

Heh. A Cox .049 with the cylinder turned 90 degrees. I still have one on a trainer balsa plane that my son learned to fly C/L when he was a kid. It's fly-able if I just cleaned the motor up a bit. The bigger stuff is actually easier to fly than the little ones, once you got old enough to hang on to the bigger one's pull. A combat .40 or .60 engine plane on 60 foot stainless lines at full tilt can pull pretty good with the centrifugal force.

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:01:20 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

I flew lots of Ucontrol as a kid. After I came back from school and
service, my brother and his kids had lived in the house I grew up in. Only
2 engines that were still there was an .049 diesel and a .049 outboard.
Still have them. Should put them on display in the office.

Are you talking about one of these?

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Model%20Motor.jpg

I think my diesel is a Cox. Has a wing nut adjuster on top the motor to
adjust compression.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:43:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:52:08 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:09:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:





It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.







I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes first. Haven't gotten one of them



either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:







http://tinyurl.com/law82pa







But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local elementary school. The playground



there's not very big.



The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!) on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the other, or you be waiting a while between flights.



Yeah, good idea. Do they make chargers that will operate from a car battery? My little helicopter

charges from a USB port on the computer, and I've got a cigarette lighter to USB adaptor (used for

Verizon cell phones), but I don't know if they make that type interface for the LiPo batteries in

the RC planes.

From a casual look at the plane you linked, it comes with a charger that has large alligator clips for hooking to your car battery. An AC charger would be another extra charge option, although if you wanted one (and it sounds like you don't) I'm not able to recommend one right now. I'd have to do a bit of research.

My planes (and expertise) are gas and glow powered. I do have a couple of small, electric park flyers but they are older nicad powered models. Nothing with LiPo or brushless. There is some cool stuff out there in electrics, and many people are moving to that, but I still love the smell and mess of internal combustion RC. :-)

The glow is what I was into many years ago. The Ringmaster was my favorite, and I had a few of them.
Crash one, buy another. They were all u-control. Haven't had a plane for about 35 years now, and I'm
astounded by the electric technology out there. My first was a Cox .049 on a plastic P-51 that I won
by selling magazine subscriptions in 7th grade. That plane would barely get off the ground, but it
was loads of fun.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:01:20 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:52:08 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:09:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Friday, January 24, 2014 9:06:45 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:





It's not as common, but is available. Reloading does the trick.







I've not gotten into that. Have to get over the electric RC planes
first. Haven't gotten one of them



either, but I'm spending a lot of time looking. I like this one:







http://tinyurl.com/law82pa







But it's pretty big. I'd like to be able to fly it at the local
elementary school. The playground



there's not very big.



The wingspan is fairly large (59"), but it will fly pretty slow and
land probably at a fast walk to a trot. If you pull the trigger (ha!)
on this, get an extra battery so you can charge one while flying the
other, or you be waiting a while between flights.



Yeah, good idea. Do they make chargers that will operate from a car
battery? My little helicopter

charges from a USB port on the computer, and I've got a cigarette
lighter to USB adaptor (used for

Verizon cell phones), but I don't know if they make that type interface
for the LiPo batteries in

the RC planes.

From a casual look at the plane you linked, it comes with a charger that
has large alligator clips for hooking to your car battery. An AC charger
would be another extra charge option, although if you wanted one (and it
sounds like you don't) I'm not able to recommend one right now. I'd have
to do a bit of research.

My planes (and expertise) are gas and glow powered. I do have a couple
of small, electric park flyers but they are older nicad powered models.
Nothing with LiPo or brushless. There is some cool stuff out there in
electrics, and many people are moving to that, but I still love the smell
and mess of internal combustion RC. :-)

I flew lots of Ucontrol as a kid. After I came back from school and
service, my brother and his kids had lived in the house I grew up in. Only
2 engines that were still there was an .049 diesel and a .049 outboard.
Still have them. Should put them on display in the office.

That would be cute.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:55:44 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:03:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:32:13 -0500, wrote:


Sportsmans Guide seems to be getting ammo in (online). They even had
9mm for 27 cents a round in the last catalog.
I am still waiting for 20 cents before I dive back in the ammo pond.
The hoarders should be running out of room in the bunker and the
manufacturers will overshoot the market.

I bought three boxes of TulAmmo at WalMart for $10.36/50. Steel case,
FMJ, made in Russia. We'll see
if I get any misfires.

I can't really remember the last time I had a misfire.I saw a few at
the skeet range but they were reloaded 12ga. I always shot new ammo.
We were buying it by the pallet at about $2 a box so reloading never
made economic sense to me.

When I used to shoot a lot of trap I reloaded. Only misfires I ever had,
were hulls that had been reloaded too many times, and the primer came out.
Never had a misfire other than some 22 I had. Old, or moisture got in.
Was a box of 50 and probably 40 of them would not fire.

The last time I had a misfire was in Grafenwohr, Germany, firing M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles. The
165mm main gun rounds had an electric primer which failed about 10% of the time, and a
point-initiated, base-detonating fuse, which failed about another 10% of the time. But, they were
fun to shoot anyway.