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On 1/20/2014 5:02 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze 59,000,000 hits simply means references to the subject, not the number of instances of BSOD. |
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On 1/20/14, 7:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 5:02 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze 59,000,000 hits simply means references to the subject, not the number of instances of BSOD. I know that, really. :) |
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KC wrote:
On 1/20/2014 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote: KC wrote: On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard". They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range of systems we have.. It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take out the mission? The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a lotta thousands of miles away. Sure, that's what they are telling us now but I am pretty sure the artificial intelligence is adequate to go a lot further... unless you believe the US Military is not taking full advantage of any of it they can:) A cruise missile is the autonomous device. Drones are controlled. |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:33:43 -0500, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:47:03 -0500, Hank wrote: Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules, plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :) Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink. Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how Mr. Krause makes this connection. === It's called running from a losing argument and changing the subject. Harry must have studied under a woman at one time or another. Why you guys continue to engage him is a mystery to me. He's harmless. Annoying but harmless. He's been quite restrained lately. Haven't you notices? ==== Definitely out of character, probably feeling some heat on his 6. |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of Death to a Virginia subdivision. Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually close the program using the task manager and restart it. BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit". I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7 based systems. I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that use Windows. I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95. === I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd like it. |
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On 1/20/2014 9:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of Death to a Virginia subdivision. Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually close the program using the task manager and restart it. BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit". I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7 based systems. I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that use Windows. I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95. === I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd like it. I agree that Win 7 is better than Vista but I really don't have any issues with the laptop I am using right now which is running Vista. As previously mentioned, it takes much longer to boot up from a cold start but once running it's fine. I've tweaked and peaked a few things over the year that I've had it .. about 5 years now ... and it performs ok. I prefer it somewhat to my Win 7 laptop because this one has a bigger screen. I figure someday in the near future something is going to crap out ... probably the hard drive ... but until then I'll keep using it. I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. There are some features and upgrades in Win 7 and 8 that Vista doesn't have ... like the ability to natively view .mp4 video files and a much improved Windows Movie maker. The newer Movie Maker version and codex files for .mp4 can probably be added to Vista but I haven't bothered. At some point I am going to attempt making a video file using the app that comes with the iMac. I haven't tried it yet but I understand it can do a lot more than the current Windows Movie Maker. |
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On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions, several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past that, everything is usually very solid. The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of openings are non-responding. |
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On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. |
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On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? |
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On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? You're on the cusp! :) |
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On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? You're on the cusp! :) Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '- |
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On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? You're on the cusp! :) Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '- Only old farts use that expression. Like us. |
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On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot, disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up. I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's not worth fixing. I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat and in the RVs we had. It still works fine. The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either. One Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines. |
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On 1/21/2014 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/21/2014 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? You're on the cusp! :) Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '- Only old farts use that expression. Like us. Some of those old expressions have humorous origins. "Minding your P's and Q's" has two or three suspected origins. I like the one that refers to old English taverns where the barkeep would warn patrons to watch how many pints and quarts of ale they drank. |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:30:41 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. Mines = set it and forget it. A minefield not covered by observation and fire is a wasted minefield. That's in the first chapter of the Combat Engineer bible. |
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On 1/21/2014 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot, disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up. I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's not worth fixing. I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat and in the RVs we had. It still works fine. The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either. One Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines. I suspect you have a bad bootstrap. Do you still have that bootstrap loader paper tape reader that came with the unit? |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of Death to a Virginia subdivision. Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually close the program using the task manager and restart it. BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit". I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7 based systems. I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that use Windows. I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95. === I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd like it. I'll probably do it sooner or later. XP support ends in April. Not sure what I'll be without, other than security upgrades. The guys that built my computer will give me an upgrade. Guess I'll bite the bullet. |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:21:55 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote: I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions, several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past that, everything is usually very solid. The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of openings are non-responding. I just reloaded iTunes thinking that was why I couldn't get some of the videos to run on the internet. like the one Harry posted. That day I loaded three or four programs. None helped. iTunes is about to get trashed...again. |
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On 1/21/2014 10:18 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 9:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot, disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up. I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's not worth fixing. I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat and in the RVs we had. It still works fine. The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either. One Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines. I suspect you have a bad bootstrap. Do you still have that bootstrap loader paper tape reader that came with the unit? Sure I do. I collect them. |
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On 1/21/2014 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:21:55 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote: I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions, several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past that, everything is usually very solid. The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of openings are non-responding. I just reloaded iTunes thinking that was why I couldn't get some of the videos to run on the internet. like the one Harry posted. That day I loaded three or four programs. None helped. iTunes is about to get trashed...again. I doubt your inability to play videos has anything to do with iTunes. Something is screwy in your setup or you are missing some codex. Even my ancient and little laptop that I used in the boat and RVs plays videos fine and it's running XP. |
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On 1/21/2014 10:34 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of Death to a Virginia subdivision. Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually close the program using the task manager and restart it. BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit". I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7 based systems. I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that use Windows. I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95. === I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd like it. I'll probably do it sooner or later. XP support ends in April. Not sure what I'll be without, other than security upgrades. The guys that built my computer will give me an upgrade. Guess I'll bite the bullet. Yeah, I like win 7 best... Wife is going crazy with 8... hates it... |
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On 1/21/2014 11:04 AM, KC wrote:
On 1/21/2014 10:34 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:54:09 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote: These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the air. Napalm is cheap ;-) With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively drop them when the opposing force enters an area. I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber. I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight. Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of Death to a Virginia subdivision. Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually close the program using the task manager and restart it. BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit". I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7 based systems. I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that use Windows. I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95. === I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd like it. I'll probably do it sooner or later. XP support ends in April. Not sure what I'll be without, other than security upgrades. The guys that built my computer will give me an upgrade. Guess I'll bite the bullet. Yeah, I like win 7 best... Wife is going crazy with 8... hates it... We have a Win 8 laptop at the guitar shop. Different, but after playing with it a bit it you get used to how it's organized. I agree though, I like Win 7 better. |
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On 1/21/14, 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:36:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. I suppose if you take it to a shop that wants to sell you a new laptop, fixing it will always be more expensive but if you can take out 2 screws yourself and throw a $50 hard drive at it you are at least $450 ahead. I am still not sure what is wrong with an XP machine. What can your new I-Mac or W7 machine do that mine can't? I tried to have this discussion with our HOA. They only manage a $12,000 a year budget, maybe 200 transactions a year total and they want to buy a new machine because the XP machine is "old". My wife ran a quarter million dollar business on a 5150 (original PC) There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. At that point, why not fix the one you have? I usually get mine from a surplus outfit that sells off lease machines They come with legally licensed business software and a warranty. You can reload the whole thing from scratch since you have the license keys. A pawn shop would be the last place I would get a machine. That assumes one has the skills and tools to do it. Some laptops are not easy to open, and you might not be able to find a replacement drive that fits physically and electrically. |
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On 1/21/2014 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:36:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. I suppose if you take it to a shop that wants to sell you a new laptop, fixing it will always be more expensive but if you can take out 2 screws yourself and throw a $50 hard drive at it you are at least $450 ahead. I am still not sure what is wrong with an XP machine. What can your new I-Mac or W7 machine do that mine can't? I tried to have this discussion with our HOA. They only manage a $12,000 a year budget, maybe 200 transactions a year total and they want to buy a new machine because the XP machine is "old". My wife ran a quarter million dollar business on a 5150 (original PC) There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. At that point, why not fix the one you have? I usually get mine from a surplus outfit that sells off lease machines They come with legally licensed business software and a warranty. You can reload the whole thing from scratch since you have the license keys. A pawn shop would be the last place I would get a machine. Win 7 comes with a widget I like. It's called sticky notes. |
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On 1/21/2014 12:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 11:59 AM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:36:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. I suppose if you take it to a shop that wants to sell you a new laptop, fixing it will always be more expensive but if you can take out 2 screws yourself and throw a $50 hard drive at it you are at least $450 ahead. I am still not sure what is wrong with an XP machine. What can your new I-Mac or W7 machine do that mine can't? I tried to have this discussion with our HOA. They only manage a $12,000 a year budget, maybe 200 transactions a year total and they want to buy a new machine because the XP machine is "old". My wife ran a quarter million dollar business on a 5150 (original PC) There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. At that point, why not fix the one you have? I usually get mine from a surplus outfit that sells off lease machines They come with legally licensed business software and a warranty. You can reload the whole thing from scratch since you have the license keys. A pawn shop would be the last place I would get a machine. That assumes one has the skills and tools to do it. Some laptops are not easy to open, and you might not be able to find a replacement drive that fits physically and electrically. Computers are getting to be about as disposable as lightbulbs. Oops, bad example. Some folks are reluctant to part with their cfl's and incand.s. |
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On 1/21/2014 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 12:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:28:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote: Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '- Only old farts use that expression. Like us. Guys who worked in a letter press print shop? Only the uppercase P's and Q's are next to each other in a California type case. :) I still have a couple of old Ludlow type sticks I liberated from a composing room. You are a sticky fingered dude aren't you? |
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On 1/21/2014 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:48:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/21/2014 8:36 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. It's an old Compaq that I bought not too long before HP bought them. It performed fine for years until recently. Now it just starts to boot, disk drive whirrs and then it just shuts off and tries again, over and over. Never see anything on the screen although the backlight lights up. I took the hard drive out. I have one of those USB adapters that allows you to connect it to another computer. Disk drive works as I can see and copy the files on it. Suspect something on the motherboard and it's not worth fixing. Did you try it with the battery out, on the charger? Can you get it into BIOS setup? That is the best way to start. You may have a bad power supply but it could just be a memory stick. I agree if it is anything but a commodity part like a battery, memory or a drive, it is probably trash. Someone might give you a few bucks for it as parts. I still have a small Averatec labtop running XP that I used on the boat and in the RVs we had. It still works fine. The last two laptops I got have been HPs. Both are supposedly optimized for multi-media. I don't know what that means or if it makes any difference in performance but I've never had any issues with either. One Vista and one Win 7, both 64 bit machines. It probably has to do with the display adapter but most machines have good display adapters these days. I have an old Dell with TV out and dual console support. I used to carry that on vacation before TVs started having VGA ports. Don't you mean HDMI ports? |
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On 1/21/2014 12:38 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 11:59 AM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:36:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. I suppose if you take it to a shop that wants to sell you a new laptop, fixing it will always be more expensive but if you can take out 2 screws yourself and throw a $50 hard drive at it you are at least $450 ahead. I am still not sure what is wrong with an XP machine. What can your new I-Mac or W7 machine do that mine can't? I tried to have this discussion with our HOA. They only manage a $12,000 a year budget, maybe 200 transactions a year total and they want to buy a new machine because the XP machine is "old". My wife ran a quarter million dollar business on a 5150 (original PC) There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. At that point, why not fix the one you have? I usually get mine from a surplus outfit that sells off lease machines They come with legally licensed business software and a warranty. You can reload the whole thing from scratch since you have the license keys. A pawn shop would be the last place I would get a machine. Win 7 comes with a widget I like. It's called sticky notes. Yeah, my wife is so ****ed it doesn't run in 8 She had a lot of stuff in that program. |
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On 1/21/2014 12:43 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 12:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/21/14, 11:59 AM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:36:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died in it. It won't boot up anymore. Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see signs of life from the boot drive? I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor problem. If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an old XP-era laptop. I suppose if you take it to a shop that wants to sell you a new laptop, fixing it will always be more expensive but if you can take out 2 screws yourself and throw a $50 hard drive at it you are at least $450 ahead. I am still not sure what is wrong with an XP machine. What can your new I-Mac or W7 machine do that mine can't? I tried to have this discussion with our HOA. They only manage a $12,000 a year budget, maybe 200 transactions a year total and they want to buy a new machine because the XP machine is "old". My wife ran a quarter million dollar business on a 5150 (original PC) There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops. I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the McIntosh amp I finally bought. At that point, why not fix the one you have? I usually get mine from a surplus outfit that sells off lease machines They come with legally licensed business software and a warranty. You can reload the whole thing from scratch since you have the license keys. A pawn shop would be the last place I would get a machine. That assumes one has the skills and tools to do it. Some laptops are not easy to open, and you might not be able to find a replacement drive that fits physically and electrically. Computers are getting to be about as disposable as lightbulbs. Oops, bad example. Some folks are reluctant to part with their cfl's and incand.s. My laptop was a monster when I bought it, still faster than my wife's last desktop... |
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:15:35 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/21/14, 9:13 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/21/2014 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote: When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is. Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days... I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash. The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They come right back. Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I would look for a hardware problem. If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59 million. Stale data, indeed. http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing "Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate with Windows.[1] Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware." ... What Wayne said. I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone down there properly entertained. Wow. Wayne got there before me. Who is Billy Bruce? You're on the cusp! :) Why would you put Wayne there? |
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:43:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/21/2014 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:21:55 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote: I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions, several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past that, everything is usually very solid. The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of openings are non-responding. I just reloaded iTunes thinking that was why I couldn't get some of the videos to run on the internet. like the one Harry posted. That day I loaded three or four programs. None helped. iTunes is about to get trashed...again. I doubt your inability to play videos has anything to do with iTunes. Something is screwy in your setup or you are missing some codex. Even my ancient and little laptop that I used in the boat and RVs plays videos fine and it's running XP. Any of the avi, mpg, mp3, wmv, etc. videos play fine with the various programs I use. The *only* time I have a problem is in playing some of the videos on the internet. And even then, any video on youtube plays fine, and most of the videos elsewhere play fine. There are a few, every now and then, that won't play. It's just weird. But, I'm not losing a whole lot of sleep over it. |
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On 1/21/2014 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/21/14, 12:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:28:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/21/14, 9:17 AM, Hank wrote: Oh Gee. I better mind my Ps and Qs eh? '- Only old farts use that expression. Like us. Guys who worked in a letter press print shop? Only the uppercase P's and Q's are next to each other in a California type case. :) I still have a couple of old Ludlow type sticks I liberated from a composing room. Made me think of you for some reason .... http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/3fd76bf3-ff66-4d5f-9c63-fea2d4bd08bb.jpg?t=1390271701 |
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On 1/21/2014 1:23 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:43:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/21/2014 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:21:55 -0800, thumper wrote: On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote: I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions, several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past that, everything is usually very solid. The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of openings are non-responding. I just reloaded iTunes thinking that was why I couldn't get some of the videos to run on the internet. like the one Harry posted. That day I loaded three or four programs. None helped. iTunes is about to get trashed...again. I doubt your inability to play videos has anything to do with iTunes. Something is screwy in your setup or you are missing some codex. Even my ancient and little laptop that I used in the boat and RVs plays videos fine and it's running XP. Any of the avi, mpg, mp3, wmv, etc. videos play fine with the various programs I use. The *only* time I have a problem is in playing some of the videos on the internet. And even then, any video on youtube plays fine, and most of the videos elsewhere play fine. There are a few, every now and then, that won't play. It's just weird. But, I'm not losing a whole lot of sleep over it. Some videos ask to load some hokey player before showing the video to you. I just skip over them. |
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On 1/21/2014 12:59 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/21/2014 12:38 PM, Hank wrote: Win 7 comes with a widget I like. It's called sticky notes. Yeah, my wife is so ****ed it doesn't run in 8 She had a lot of stuff in that program. Here you go: http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/sticky-notes-8/a691d64e-0b43-41e2-93fe-62e230551113 |
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On 1/21/2014 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2014 12:59 PM, KC wrote: On 1/21/2014 12:38 PM, Hank wrote: Win 7 comes with a widget I like. It's called sticky notes. Yeah, my wife is so ****ed it doesn't run in 8 She had a lot of stuff in that program. Here you go: http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/sticky-notes-8/a691d64e-0b43-41e2-93fe-62e230551113 Is this guy, who manages the cloud, trustworthy? The video says all your stuff is stored in the cloud. |
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On 1/21/2014 2:10 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/21/2014 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/21/2014 12:59 PM, KC wrote: On 1/21/2014 12:38 PM, Hank wrote: Win 7 comes with a widget I like. It's called sticky notes. Yeah, my wife is so ****ed it doesn't run in 8 She had a lot of stuff in that program. Here you go: http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/sticky-notes-8/a691d64e-0b43-41e2-93fe-62e230551113 Is this guy, who manages the cloud, trustworthy? The video says all your stuff is stored in the cloud. Beats me. What the hell are you going to write on a "sticky note" that you wouldn't want anyone to see? |
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