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On 1/18/2014 2:08 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:02:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2014 11:56 AM, wrote:


I always wonder about this radiation thing. I spent the best part of a
year being radioactive enough to set off a radiation detector at an
airport and that was supposed to be curing cancer.


What? I don't get it... "supposed to be curing cancer" at an
"Airport"... confused....

They shot over a hundred Iodine 125 seeds into my prostate for a
cancer problem. Several months later I was in an airport talking to
some nervous TSA guys about it.



When my wife received nuclear medicine treatment to kill off most of her
thyroid, she sat in a lead lined room by herself and drank the stuff.

The doc then told me to have her sit in the backseat of the car on the
drive home and for me to sleep on the sofa for a couple of nights.

I thought he was kidding. He wasn't.

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On 1/18/2014 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


As a 2LT, I tried to get into flight school. Had to take a flight physical, with EKG. They found
premature ventricular contractions (PVCs), which usually aren't that big of a deal, but they do
prevent one from getting into flight school. They gave me pills - sedatives mostly, but they didn't
help. If they'd told me to stop drinking coffee, I might have gone to flight school.

Haven't had any PVCs for at least 40 years now.



That's interesting. A little over a year ago when I became a little
concerned with some increasing chest pains I was having (especially at
night) I ended up having a full bore nuclear stress test and they found
nothing wrong. No blockages, no abnormal circulatory or respiratory
issues.

They asked how much coffee I drank (which was a lot) and suggested I
try de-caf for a while. I did, and haven't had a single episode of
chest pains since.

I also have become used to de-caf. I actually prefer it over high test now.

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On 1/18/2014 4:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:34:43 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.

Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.


Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.

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F.O.A.D. wrote:


It has never bothered me that my draft board never contacted me, even
though I made damned sure it always had my current mailing address.
Sure you did.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/18/14, 2:28 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/18/2014 1:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:10:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:28:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 10:17 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:37:38 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:53:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

The USA has been a big-time
marketer of land mines. Some 155 countries have signed onto a
treaty not
to use land mines. The United States is not a signatory.

From what I understand the US use of land mines is almost
exclusively
in the DMZ between N and S Korea. It is the only way they think
50,000
troops would have a chance of slowing an invasion of foot soldiers.
I doubt it would buy them an hour. By then the NK bodies would be
piled up high enough to blunt the force of the mines and they would
come on down the peninsula

I've been to the DMZ, where our division is located. Don't recall
anything about minefields. Also
developed a study simulating an NK attack. I had a very extensive
listing of all the offensive and
defensive forces and weapons - no minefields were included.


Infantry: Minding The World's Largest Minefield


January 31, 2009: While landmines are technically "banned" weapons,
there are still plenty in use, and one of the most mined areas is
Korea.
The Mine Ban Treaty came into force in 1999, but 42 countries did not
agree to the ban on the production, stockpiling, and use of
antipersonnel mines. Countries who opted out include China, India,
Pakistan, Russia, South Korea and the United States. This includes the
major producers of landmines, as well as many of those still using
landmines.

South Korea has about a million landmines emplaced along the DMZ
(DeMilitarized Zone) between north and south Korea. The U.S. and South
Korea have another two million or so mines in storage, in case North
Korea tries to invade again (as it last did in 1950.) North Korea
won't
say how many mines it has planted, but it's probably at least several
hundred thousand.

South Korea has to replace mines as they get too old to still work,
and
they are starting to do this with a new generation of command (by wire
or wireless) detonated mines. Many of the more recent mines South
Korea
has stockpiled are of the self-destruct (a certain amount of time
after
planted) variety. South Korea has been making plans for clearing
all the
mines it has planted over the years, largely because it appears
that the
communist government of North Korea will collapse soon, eliminating
the
need for the DMZ, and all those

http://tinyurl.com/kll4beh


Must be those pesky stealth mines, since our military doesn’t know
about
them. Or maybe we just don't know about them because they are South
Korea's mines. What?

Well see, there you go. Apparently those mines are so secret they
didn't make the books at Combined
Forces Command. Or, there may be some bull**** going on. As for
mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

My comments don't include mines used to defend firing positions,
such as claymores. Claymores (or
the equivalent) are undoubtedly used wherever there are firing
positions for US or South Korean
forces. To not use them would be stupid.


I have no idea what "Combined Forces Command" knows or doesn't know,
other than to say that "military intelligence" is one of the leading
oxymorons.

Right up there with 'honest media'.

And transparency in government at any level including the top.


Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

They have government. They are tribal warlords. Major problem in Somalia
is that the Italians combined 3 different tribal areas in to one country.
Tribes who did not get along with each other. So you have 3 different
governments in Somalia. Each tribe. And the to tribes do not manufacture
anything useful.

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wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:21:32 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:43:01 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:19:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

Those won't even slow down tanks, APCs, and self-propelled artillery. North Korea has more of that
stuff than you can imagine.

These days we call armor "targets". As long as you have air
superiority, big things on the ground become a video game.


Again, sheer numbers can affect our 'air superiority'. F-16s are great, but when faced with half a
dozen or more MIGs each, they can have their problems. North Korea is also a porcupine's back of
SAMs. If the south attacked first, much of that could be suppressed, but that's not the scenario.

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On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

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Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

I think these were anti personnel variety. I would ask him, but he died
last year.

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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:06:43 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:42:05 -0600, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.

My roommate before marriage worked on a mine thrower for FMC. He designed
the triggering mechanism. Was a spinning tire and the mines were fed on to
the tire and tossed out as the trailer was pulled along.

Anti-tank mines on top of the ground become easy targets for the machine guns on tanks.

I think these were anti personnel variety. I would ask him, but he died
last year.

I can't imagine us deploying AP mines that way, unless they were a timed, self-destructing type of
some sort. Normally we would make a very detailed record - down to the location of each mine. That
would be hard to do if the mines were just scattered.

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In article , says...

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:33:10 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/18/2014 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

As for mines in storage, in case of an
invasion, there won't be enough time to be putting in any minefields.

I don't know a lot about US mines but the Russians littered
Afghanistan with little plastic air dropped mines. The problem is they
look like toys and kids pick them up ... kaboom.
There have been a number of stories about them.
I think they copied a US mine.

It is pretty fast to spray those out in front of an attacking army.


Are mines really all that effective on modern armies like the US at this
time? I know we have lots of ways to go over, through, around or
otherwise avoid them and detect them too. I can't really see too many US
troops unknowingly walking into a traditional mine field. I am not
talking about IED's, I am talking about traditional pressure triggered
mines such as used in WW1 and WW2... The type of mines in the DMZ in
Korea....

These days I think mines are though of as a way to stop kamikaze
attacks (or whatever the Koreans call them , not an air cav probe.
The soviets were the last ones to use them in any serious numbers and
it was a terror weapon trying to scare the Mujahadeen. It really did
not work. They also get scattered around Africa, again as a terror
device.
I can understand that if your back was against the wall and you wanted
to slow down a division or two of light infantry coming through a
narrow mountain pass, dropping a 100,000 butterfly mines might do the
trick.

These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

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On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.

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On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

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On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

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On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.

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On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?

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On 1/20/2014 10:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in
the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift
bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.




When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 11:18 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 9:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in
the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift
bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue
Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very
stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue
Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.


There are a lot of things about the Windoze experience I simply won't
tolerate. Examples: if and when you still need tech support on matters
that are a bit beyond ordinary, you still get bumped most of the time to
someone in India or suchlike whose English is abominable and who is
simply a script reader. If you are running a Windoze computer, such as a
Dell or HP, you also end up in overseas poor English tech support.

In the years I have been using Apple products, the times I have called
tech support always and I mean always resulted in connecting to a tech
person in this country or Canada whose English was flawless and who was
able to provide the help needed. Also, a couple of times I needed
service on Apple hardware and I was able to take it right to the Apple
store and either get it fixed while I waited or had lunch, or it was
ready in a couple of days. Try that with your Dell or HP PC, printer or
laptop.

My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.



I joke a bit about my computer ignorance but I am probably a more
advanced user ... at least of Windows ... than I let on to be. I've
never had to call tech support for any Windows based issues on any
computer. I can usually figure it out myself, often by just googling
the problem or question and finding the answer on one of the many
computer forums.

The only time I've called tech support (actually my wife made the call)
was when the Smartdrive she purchased for her iMac refused to work.
The Apple tech spoke English and was helpful but he was also stumped
until it dawned on me that my wife had the Smartdrive upside down. :-)

Don't get me wrong. I like the iMac and am looking forward to gaining
more knowledge and experience with it. I just think that Windows
continues to get a bad rap for being "unstable" or problem-prone. That
has not been my experience at all with the more recent versions.




When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.

An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:19:32 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?

IFF is a fantasy when it comes to drones. We have declared most of
Afghanistan a free fire zone and they kill any target that looks
suspicious to them.


Who is picking the targets, humans, or the drone... That is my
question.. And if it's a human, can the drone over ride that order if it
sees something? Again, just wondering...

Question on ...
 

KC wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take out the mission?

The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a
lotta thousands of miles away.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 12:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.

An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg

Purty slick.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/2014 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take out the mission?

The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a
lotta thousands of miles away.


Sure, that's what they are telling us now but I am pretty sure the
artificial intelligence is adequate to go a lot further... unless you
believe the US Military is not taking full advantage of any of it they can:)

Question on ...
 

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:47:03 -0500, Hank wrote:

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.

===

It's called running from a losing argument and changing the subject.
Harry must have studied under a woman at one time or another.

Why you guys continue to engage him is a mystery to me.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

===

I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on
all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions,
several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS
devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death
while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices
that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past
that, everything is usually very solid.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:03:15 -0500, wrote:

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..

===

A B-52 is a very expensive asset, with or without pilots. At tree top
level they would certainly scare everyone to death however, no
munitions required.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:44:26 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:34:43 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?

IFF is a fantasy when it comes to drones. We have declared most of
Afghanistan a free fire zone and they kill any target that looks
suspicious to them.


Who is picking the targets, humans, or the drone... That is my
question.. And if it's a human, can the drone over ride that order if it
sees something? Again, just wondering...

If we can believe what they say, the targets are designated by a human
but how the selection is made is still in dispute.
I do believe the technology is good enough that they hit the target
they are aiming at most of the time, terrorist or innocent goat
herder.

===

Every drone has a ground based pilot and co-pilot. They are the ones
with their fingers on the "fire" button.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP
over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:16:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.

An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg

It's pretty enough to go on a mantle. How much are you asking for it?

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:19:32 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take
out the mission?

The friend versus foe part is electronic. The pilots of manned B-52s can't tell what the collateral
damage will be either, and they can't determine 'worth' of a mission. Those guys fly *way* up there.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:39:18 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/20/2014 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:


The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a
lotta thousands of miles away.


Sure, that's what they are telling us now but I am pretty sure the
artificial intelligence is adequate to go a lot further... unless you
believe the US Military is not taking full advantage of any of it they can:)

In what way, with respect to drones. A target still has to be identified.

Question on ...
 

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

If you enter 'krause taxes' you get:

About 1,120,000 results (0.42 seconds)

Not 59 million, but a significant number of meaningless hits.

Question on ...
 

On 1/20/14, 5:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:16:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 11:45 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 11:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 11:15 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/20/2014 10:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
My current 27" iMac, still in near perfect condition, is up for sale.
I'm getting a new Mac desktop.

Are you becoming less mobile?


You think a 27" iMac is a "mobile" computer, eh? I suppose it could be,
if you had a big, sturdy travel case. My guess is the iMac alone weighs
at least 30 pounds.

I'm not selling my laptop, just my current desktop.

It's a good buy for someone who likes iMacs and has need of a cherry
used one with an i7 CPU.

I have no idea what an Imac is. It sounded to me that you were selling
something with a carry handle to be replaced with something bigger and
bulkier sans handles.

An iMac is Apple's version of an "all in one" desktop computer.

Looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01...70-main-lg.jpg

It's pretty enough to go on a mantle. How much are you asking for it?


I'm "asking" $700 but I'll end up selling it for $600 cash. One of the
outfits that buys used Apple gear offered me $731, and it will resell
the unit for $950. Another outfit offered me $640.

By selling it locally, I don't have to do anything but put it in its box
and meet the buyer somewhere convenient. A fellow who bought my old Mac
laptop a few years ago seems interested. I'm pretty sure it'll be sold
by the end of the month.

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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

Mines = set it and forget it.

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On 1/20/2014 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:47:03 -0500, Hank wrote:

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise! :)

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.

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It's called running from a losing argument and changing the subject.
Harry must have studied under a woman at one time or another.

Why you guys continue to engage him is a mystery to me.

He's harmless. Annoying but harmless. He's been quite restrained lately.
Haven't you notices?