I can see this...
 

Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean.. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

I can see this...
 

Tim wrote:
Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in
use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I
can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their
boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

We have inspections at some lakes. Next visit free if you have not used
the boat elsewhere. They band the boat to the trailer. Not a problem.
But a lot of the fees are just revenue enhancers. We have a $15 star
The fee on the registration for invasive species. What does it actually
buy? Clear lake has a $20 a year fee. You fill out paper work, and they
give you a sticker. No one actually checks the boat. We have quagga
mussels in several waters in the west. Originally introduced by fly
fisherman and waders from New Zealand. There are no fees on fisherman, no
fees on inflatables. Seems little more than an extra boating tax as it is
run now.

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On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:31:10 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:

We have quagga
mussels in several waters in the west. Originally introduced by fly

fisherman and waders from New Zealand.

odd that thy could have survived the trip hanging out in waders and tackle boxes. But I suppose that's possible.


There are no fees on fisherman, no

fees on inflatables. Seems little more than an extra boating tax as it is

run now.


Didn't think of that...

I can see this...
 

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

We're finghting against an invader, too.....

http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-cons...us-waters.html

I can see this...
 

On 1/12/14, 6:50 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

We're finghting against an invader, too.....

http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-cons...us-waters.html



If it is the same species, and it looks like it, there's a big market
for them in seafood stores and restaurants. Is someone raising them
locally and commercially in your area?

I can see this...
 

Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)

I can see this...
 

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:05:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.



Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.



If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.



http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species



Invasive species are really getting to be a problem everywhere and

anything we can do to limit the spread is worth doing.

Yeah, we've got those weird flying carp in the mid-western rivers now...

I can see this...
 

On 1/12/2014 10:05 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:05:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.



Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.



If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.



http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species



Invasive species are really getting to be a problem everywhere and

anything we can do to limit the spread is worth doing.

Yeah, we've got those weird flying carp in the mid-western rivers now...


Those things are bad... Like 20 pound mosquitoes that can kill you...

I can see this...
 

On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!


Visit your local neighborhood oriental market and you'll find them, big
ones, on ice and ready to take home.

I can see this...
 

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:30:22 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/12/2014 10:05 PM, Tim wrote:



Yeah, we've got those weird flying carp in the mid-western rivers now...





Those things are bad... Like 20 pound mosquitoes that can kill you...

Yes they are bad, Scott. Last summer a friend of mine mid-state got hit by one jumping in the boat. It whacked him on the calf of his right upper arm and bruised it hard. From then on when he the boat, the kid wears a life jacket and a motorcycle helmet.

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On Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39:13 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:



Visit your local neighborhood oriental market and you'll find them, big

ones, on ice and ready to take home.

I wish we had one around here, but I'd say the closest one would probably be 80-100 mi. away. If we did have one I'd probably dig out the electric wok and get heavy with it. Then again, I think we can get frozen prawn at the local IGA. already de-veined and ready to grill.


I'll have to check that out.

I can see this...
 

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:31:37 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/12/14, 6:50 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

We're finghting against an invader, too.....

http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-cons...us-waters.html



If it is the same species, and it looks like it, there's a big market
for them in seafood stores and restaurants. Is someone raising them
locally and commercially in your area?

No they've just appeared in the local catch and the reasonable
conclusion is that they are breeding the local shrimp out of their
habitat....

I can see this...
 

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)


Probably, but the concern is that they will render all of the local
species extinct....

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 5:52 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:31:37 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/12/14, 6:50 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:02:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Confessedly I'm a trailer boater and keep my boats in the dry when not in use, and even though I'm not one for more personal gov't regulation, I can see going after invasive species from people who won't keep their boat clean. Especially after looking at the prop of this boat.

Besides, a clean hull and drive make the boats performance a lot more efficient.

If the proposal was enacted in Illinois, I'd probably vote for it.

http://www.saratogian.com/general-ne...vasive-species

We're finghting against an invader, too.....

http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-cons...us-waters.html



If it is the same species, and it looks like it, there's a big market
for them in seafood stores and restaurants. Is someone raising them
locally and commercially in your area?

No they've just appeared in the local catch and the reasonable
conclusion is that they are breeding the local shrimp out of their
habitat....

Uh-oh.

I've had the "questionable species" a couple of times in a couple of the
Vietnamese restaurants we frequent, as appetizer and entree items. The
more usual shrimp seem to be ending up in Vietnamese soup (pho) dishes.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 5:46 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39:13 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:



Visit your local neighborhood oriental market and you'll find them, big

ones, on ice and ready to take home.

I wish we had one around here, but I'd say the closest one would probably be 80-100 mi. away. If we did have one I'd probably dig out the electric wok and get heavy with it. Then again, I think we can get frozen prawn at the local IGA. already de-veined and ready to grill.


I'll have to check that out.


I sort of had the idea, obviously incorrect, that you weren't that far
from a major city. There are some really large and spectacular oriental
markets over the river in Northern Virginia, and they sell meats, fish
and produce I've never seen before, along with the more usual items.

I can see this...
 

On Monday, January 13, 2014 5:14:16 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/13/14, 5:46 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39:13 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:







Visit your local neighborhood oriental market and you'll find them, big



ones, on ice and ready to take home.



I wish we had one around here, but I'd say the closest one would probably be 80-100 mi. away. If we did have one I'd probably dig out the electric wok and get heavy with it. Then again, I think we can get frozen prawn at the local IGA. already de-veined and ready to grill.





I'll have to check that out.





I sort of had the idea, obviously incorrect, that you weren't that far

from a major city.

That is a bummer, Any town that's worth anything is yes, a minimum of 80 mi.. from me. I'm in a cornfield in the middle of nowhere.

LOL!

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 5:14:16 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/13/14, 5:46 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39:13 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:







Visit your local neighborhood oriental market and you'll find them, big



ones, on ice and ready to take home.



I wish we had one around here, but I'd say the closest one would probably be 80-100 mi. away. If we did have one I'd probably dig out the electric wok and get heavy with it. Then again, I think we can get frozen prawn at the local IGA. already de-veined and ready to grill.





I'll have to check that out.





I sort of had the idea, obviously incorrect, that you weren't that far

from a major city.

That is a bummer, Any town that's worth anything is yes, a minimum of 80 mi. from me. I'm in a cornfield in the middle of nowhere.

LOL!


Well, then, where are your photos of your scarecrows and those of your
neighbors?

There's a huge piece of farm equipment one of the local implement shops
has out by the street as a decoration. It's rusty, and it looks like the
back end of a steam tractor, or maybe not. I dunno. I'll have to snap a
photo of it and you can tell me what it is.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/2014 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!


I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is
conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they
didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you
would be hearing that...

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 7:02 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a
solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!


I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is
conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they
didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you
would be hearing that...

They taste "fine," but they don't taste the same as the Florida shrimp I
used to net, or the shrimp the Safeway sells.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/2014 5:53 PM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)


Probably, but the concern is that they will render all of the local
species extinct....


So then why isn't the shrimp industry screaming bloody murder? Are they
that good, maybe they are an "easy keep" population? Just putting on my
tin hat he)

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/2014 7:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/13/14, 7:02 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a
solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!


I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is
conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they
didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you
would be hearing that...

They taste "fine," but they don't taste the same as the Florida shrimp I
used to net, or the shrimp the Safeway sells.

I love shrimp but after reading about "farm raised" I've given them up.
Yuk.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 7:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2014 7:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/13/14, 7:02 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 12:51:17 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:03:49 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



Gene would those things be any good to eat? If so there may be a
solution.. (butter, lemon and garlic!)





If these are the same tiger shrimp, they are likely to be what you get

in a lot of places (the black and gray ones at the store)

I have to believe, game fish like to eat them. I guess it depends on

where they are showing up and if they are competing with native

shrimp.

I didn't realize these are the same as 'black prawns"

Thanks!


I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is
conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they
didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you
would be hearing that...

They taste "fine," but they don't taste the same as the Florida shrimp I
used to net, or the shrimp the Safeway sells.

I love shrimp but after reading about "farm raised" I've given them up.
Yuk.



Don't go near tilapia, then. :)

We usually had a several week edible shrimp season in NE Florida. It's
why I bought and finally learned how to use a cast net. Free-swimming
shrimp, not farm-raised.

In those days, the "farm-raised" shrimp were sold to the bait stores.
You could buy a dozen for a dollar. Live. Great bait for the smaller
fish, like whiting, flounder, redfish, porgies, et cetera.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:29:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


In those days, the "farm-raised" shrimp were sold to the bait stores.
You could buy a dozen for a dollar. Live. Great bait for the smaller
fish, like whiting, flounder, redfish, porgies, et cetera.

I never saw a farm raised bait shrimp but maybe it is just because
there were always plenty of day boats around selling them.


Most of the live shrimp at the three or four salt water bait shops I
frequented in northern Florida were "serviced" by trucks from the other
side of the state. They had tanks on the back of the trucks and in the
tanks were...bait shrimp. Sometimes baitfish, too...

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/2014 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:29:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


In those days, the "farm-raised" shrimp were sold to the bait stores.
You could buy a dozen for a dollar. Live. Great bait for the smaller
fish, like whiting, flounder, redfish, porgies, et cetera.

I never saw a farm raised bait shrimp but maybe it is just because
there were always plenty of day boats around selling them.



I've noticed that most of the pre-cooked shrimp sold in the major
supermarkets are farm raised. I used to enjoy them until I read this:

http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/fish/fish-farming/shrimp/health-impacts-of-eating-farm-raised-shrimp-2/

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/14, 9:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:18:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/13/2014 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:29:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


In those days, the "farm-raised" shrimp were sold to the bait stores.
You could buy a dozen for a dollar. Live. Great bait for the smaller
fish, like whiting, flounder, redfish, porgies, et cetera.

I never saw a farm raised bait shrimp but maybe it is just because
there were always plenty of day boats around selling them.



I've noticed that most of the pre-cooked shrimp sold in the major
supermarkets are farm raised. I used to enjoy them until I read this:

http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/fish/fish-farming/shrimp/health-impacts-of-eating-farm-raised-shrimp-2/

In that regard, the wild caught tiger shrimp might actually be pretty
good. My experience is from those grown in a Thai septic tank.


Ever been to a beef slaughterhouse? I visited a couple as a newspaper
reporter. Blech.

I can see this...
 

On 1/13/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:02:09 -0500, KC wrote:

I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is
conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they
didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you
would be hearing that...

Tiger shrimp are fairly tasteless.
They are certainly not as good as wild caught Gulf shrimp but most
people have forgotten what they taste like.
Shrimp usually gets buried in stronger flavors anyway.
It is like Tilapia, a bland white puck of protein like substance but
it gets spiced, marinated and grilled or fried so people don't notice.


Too bad they don't taste good...

I can see this...
 

On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:55:02 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:02:09 -0500, KC wrote:



I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is

conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they

didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you

would be hearing that...



Tiger shrimp are fairly tasteless.

They are certainly not as good as wild caught Gulf shrimp but most

people have forgotten what they taste like.

Shrimp usually gets buried in stronger flavors anyway.

It is like Tilapia, a bland white puck of protein like substance but

it gets spiced, marinated and grilled or fried so people don't notice.





Too bad they don't taste good...

Scotty I'd say that talapia is like what Greg described. They don't cook or steam or bake well and the only flavor it has is what you put on it,

But the wife likes it.

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/14, 12:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:55:02 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:02:09 -0500, KC wrote:



I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is

conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they

didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you

would be hearing that...



Tiger shrimp are fairly tasteless.

They are certainly not as good as wild caught Gulf shrimp but most

people have forgotten what they taste like.

Shrimp usually gets buried in stronger flavors anyway.

It is like Tilapia, a bland white puck of protein like substance but

it gets spiced, marinated and grilled or fried so people don't notice.





Too bad they don't taste good...

Scotty I'd say that talapia is like what Greg described. They don't cook or steam or bake well and the only flavor it has is what you put on it,

But the wife likes it.


They're also being sold everywhere...farmed tilapia. Blech.

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/2014 12:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:55:02 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:02:09 -0500, KC wrote:



I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for eating" is

conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they

didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think you

would be hearing that...



Tiger shrimp are fairly tasteless.

They are certainly not as good as wild caught Gulf shrimp but most

people have forgotten what they taste like.

Shrimp usually gets buried in stronger flavors anyway.

It is like Tilapia, a bland white puck of protein like substance but

it gets spiced, marinated and grilled or fried so people don't notice.





Too bad they don't taste good...

Scotty I'd say that talapia is like what Greg described. They don't cook or steam or bake well and the only flavor it has is what you put on it,

But the wife likes it.

The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/2014 8:22 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/14/2014 12:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:55:02 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/13/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:02:09 -0500, KC wrote:



I am assuming they must be quite tastey as "how they are for
eating" is

conspicuously left out of most of the reports I am seeing... If they

didn't taste as good as the tiny little shrimp we have now, I think
you

would be hearing that...



Tiger shrimp are fairly tasteless.

They are certainly not as good as wild caught Gulf shrimp but most

people have forgotten what they taste like.

Shrimp usually gets buried in stronger flavors anyway.

It is like Tilapia, a bland white puck of protein like substance but

it gets spiced, marinated and grilled or fried so people don't notice.





Too bad they don't taste good...

Scotty I'd say that talapia is like what Greg described. They don't
cook or steam or bake well and the only flavor it has is what you put
on it,

But the wife likes it.

The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

We are starting to train real hard for the season again here, Jess gets
wild caught (or it says on the pack) Salmon and Tuna, we really don't
bother with Talipia... Just nothing to it...

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/2014 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57:38 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."


If you know anyone in Central Florida see if they will get you some
"Specks" (folks up north would call them Crappie). That is a plentiful
native fish in most Florida lakes and they are good pan fish.
In salt water, it is hard to beat a snook but you have to catch them.
It is illegal to buy and sell them.



I think the best fresh water pan fish we have here is a black and white
marbled crappie we call, Calico Bass... but it's not a bass at all,
shaped more like a sunfish, get up to two pounds...

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/2014 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57:38 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."


If you know anyone in Central Florida see if they will get you some
"Specks" (folks up north would call them Crappie). That is a plentiful
native fish in most Florida lakes and they are good pan fish.
In salt water, it is hard to beat a snook but you have to catch them.
It is illegal to buy and sell them.



Oh, and I think one of the best salt water fish around here is
Blackfish, but they are huge regulated...

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/14, 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57:38 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."


If you know anyone in Central Florida see if they will get you some
"Specks" (folks up north would call them Crappie). That is a plentiful
native fish in most Florida lakes and they are good pan fish.
In salt water, it is hard to beat a snook but you have to catch them.
It is illegal to buy and sell them.



Yes, I've caught both, and both are tasty. Up here, we buy fresh cod,
halibut, flounder, and salmon, the latter allegedly from Alaska.
Neither my wife nor I much like the taste of striped bass.

When I was a kid, I used to like to catch porgies. As a little kid, I'd
go out almost every morning with a retired printer from whom my parents
rented a cottage. He was a hell of a fisherman. I was too small to clean
the fish, so whatever I brought back, he'd clean while I watched, and
I'd give at least two mealsworth to my mom to cook up. We used sandworms
for bait. On the way back, we'd troll for stripers along a rocky
waterfront and sometimes get lucky.

One of my favorite fish in Florida was whiting, which we thought had a
fine delicate taste. Easy to catch, too. Our neighbor from across the
street, who was from the Philippines, would only take the heads, never
the filets. She made a soup of of them. It drove her husband nutso,
because the soup had the fish eyeballs floating in them, and the sight
of them made him queasy, or so he claimed. Also liked kingfish and
Spanish mack steaks, and all the flounder we caught under the boat docks
at the marinas in St. Augustine. Florida has terrific salt-water
fishing. Up here, in the Bay, it is in comparison mediocre.

I can see this...
 

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:35:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:


When I was up there Rock Fish were still rare and protected.

The best catch was croakers or sea trout if you could get away from

the blue fish. (fishing below Tangier Island on the cliffs)

When we had a decent price on blue fish we would get some but I don't

want to eat them myself. Usually we would just run from them.

Greg, seeing I'm not familiar with them, whats the deal with "blue fish?"

I can see this...
 

On 1/15/2014 12:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:35:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:


When I was up there Rock Fish were still rare and protected.

The best catch was croakers or sea trout if you could get away from

the blue fish. (fishing below Tangier Island on the cliffs)

When we had a decent price on blue fish we would get some but I don't

want to eat them myself. Usually we would just run from them.

Greg, seeing I'm not familiar with them, whats the deal with "blue fish?"


Huge fighters, very rich and oily meat... A lot of folks don't like it
and usually recipes start with "it tastes good if....". I don't like
recipes that start like that but I do like Bluefish poppers with hot red
pepper sauce...

I can see this...
 

On 1/15/2014 2:06 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:27:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:35:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:


When I was up there Rock Fish were still rare and protected.

The best catch was croakers or sea trout if you could get away from

the blue fish. (fishing below Tangier Island on the cliffs)

When we had a decent price on blue fish we would get some but I don't

want to eat them myself. Usually we would just run from them.

Greg, seeing I'm not familiar with them, whats the deal with "blue fish?"

Just nasty assed fish. They are strong and oily, they tear up your
leaders and one of those *******s bit me once. He jumped up out of the
box when I opened the lid and bit me on the arm.
If that is what you want to do that day, they are fun to fight with
but it is not challenging to catch them. Look for the birds and throw
damn near anything at them. They will hit it..
You really don't want them coming in if you are on fish you want.



The first time I caught a blue was while stationed in Annapolis, MD.
Someone reported that a big school of them were in the bay and I grabbed
my only fishing gear ... a fresh water rod with 12 lb test line.
The only lure I had was a four or five inch Rebel.

The birds were working and the water was churning with blues attacking
the bait fish. I cast into the middle of it and a blue immediately hit
the lure.

It was fun landing it, especially on the light fishing rod. I finally
managed to pull it up on the ground and reached down to remove the Rebel
that was half way in the blue's mouth. The fish suddenly clamped down
on the plastic lure and shattered it in several pieces. Earned my
respect fast.

I can see this...
 

On 1/14/2014 10:35 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:11:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57:38 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."


If you know anyone in Central Florida see if they will get you some
"Specks" (folks up north would call them Crappie). That is a plentiful
native fish in most Florida lakes and they are good pan fish.
In salt water, it is hard to beat a snook but you have to catch them.
It is illegal to buy and sell them.



Yes, I've caught both, and both are tasty. Up here, we buy fresh cod,
halibut, flounder, and salmon, the latter allegedly from Alaska.
Neither my wife nor I much like the taste of striped bass.

When I was a kid, I used to like to catch porgies. As a little kid, I'd
go out almost every morning with a retired printer from whom my parents
rented a cottage. He was a hell of a fisherman. I was too small to clean
the fish, so whatever I brought back, he'd clean while I watched, and
I'd give at least two mealsworth to my mom to cook up. We used sandworms
for bait. On the way back, we'd troll for stripers along a rocky
waterfront and sometimes get lucky.

One of my favorite fish in Florida was whiting, which we thought had a
fine delicate taste. Easy to catch, too. Our neighbor from across the
street, who was from the Philippines, would only take the heads, never
the filets. She made a soup of of them. It drove her husband nutso,
because the soup had the fish eyeballs floating in them, and the sight
of them made him queasy, or so he claimed. Also liked kingfish and
Spanish mack steaks, and all the flounder we caught under the boat docks
at the marinas in St. Augustine. Florida has terrific salt-water
fishing. Up here, in the Bay, it is in comparison mediocre.

When I was up there Rock Fish were still rare and protected.
The best catch was croakers or sea trout if you could get away from
the blue fish. (fishing below Tangier Island on the cliffs)
When we had a decent price on blue fish we would get some but I don't
want to eat them myself. Usually we would just run from them.

Bluefish take a bum rap. They're fun to catch, if you're careful. If you
handle them carefully and cook them properly, they make wonderful steaks
and fillets. More tasty than any of the common cold water whitefish.

I can see this...
 

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:35:10 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:11:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57:38 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/14/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:22:27 -0500, Hank wrote:


The tilapia I have tasted had an off taste to it. I can't really
describe it but I didn't like it. My neighbor cooked up some wild caught
tilapia for us and you could taste the difference (better). It helps,
too, that he's a pretty good cook.

You can usually catch Tilapia in just about any pond or road side
ditch around here. I am not sure the chemicals in a golf pond are any
better than what they have in Asian farm ponds. I guess they don't
have the anti-biotic load and that is a good thing.
I imagine the people are really worried about them taking over the
lakes.


Sort of like we've taken over the habitat from the woodland creatures,
eh? :)

The way humans behave towards each other in terms of war, avoidable
famine, spread of diseases, et cetera, I'm not convinced we are the
"higher species." I've seen more cooperation from the squirrels and
raccoons helping each other eat along our tree line than I see from humans.

Tilapia...cichlids...blech. I've pretty much given up eating "fresh
water" seafood, and I'm more picky these days about salt water seafood.
It's too bad because fish has always been one of my favorite "eats."


If you know anyone in Central Florida see if they will get you some
"Specks" (folks up north would call them Crappie). That is a plentiful
native fish in most Florida lakes and they are good pan fish.
In salt water, it is hard to beat a snook but you have to catch them.
It is illegal to buy and sell them.



Yes, I've caught both, and both are tasty. Up here, we buy fresh cod,
halibut, flounder, and salmon, the latter allegedly from Alaska.
Neither my wife nor I much like the taste of striped bass.

When I was a kid, I used to like to catch porgies. As a little kid, I'd
go out almost every morning with a retired printer from whom my parents
rented a cottage. He was a hell of a fisherman. I was too small to clean
the fish, so whatever I brought back, he'd clean while I watched, and
I'd give at least two mealsworth to my mom to cook up. We used sandworms
for bait. On the way back, we'd troll for stripers along a rocky
waterfront and sometimes get lucky.

One of my favorite fish in Florida was whiting, which we thought had a
fine delicate taste. Easy to catch, too. Our neighbor from across the
street, who was from the Philippines, would only take the heads, never
the filets. She made a soup of of them. It drove her husband nutso,
because the soup had the fish eyeballs floating in them, and the sight
of them made him queasy, or so he claimed. Also liked kingfish and
Spanish mack steaks, and all the flounder we caught under the boat docks
at the marinas in St. Augustine. Florida has terrific salt-water
fishing. Up here, in the Bay, it is in comparison mediocre.

When I was up there Rock Fish were still rare and protected.
The best catch was croakers or sea trout if you could get away from
the blue fish. (fishing below Tangier Island on the cliffs)
When we had a decent price on blue fish we would get some but I don't
want to eat them myself. Usually we would just run from them.

The best eating fish I've caught in the bay are weakfish, sometimes called salt water trout.
Rockfish, to me, have no flavor. Croakers don't have much more, and they're watery as hell. White
perch are a good eating fish.
--

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