On 1/11/2014 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:49:52 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/11/2014 11:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:09:42 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/11/2014 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:27:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/11/14, 10:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:12:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/11/14, 7:55 AM, Tim wrote:
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...series-112437/


Looks like Mercedes is coming out with a new "cigarette" Hull
boat. and with two gas-sucking mercruisers, it ought to move
pretty well

"The latest AMG boat is propelled by two 9-liter V-8s sourced
from Mercury Marine; combined, they produce close to a
whopping 2700 horsepower.

Despite this astounding amount of power, Cigarette Racing
claims the engines can run on regular pump gas, which is a
good thing, since any mention of fuel consumption is
conspicuously absent from the official AMG press release. Much
like the price tag on the boat and the C63 Black Series
itself, if you have to ask about the fuel consumption, you
probably can’t afford the vehicle itself."

Read mo
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz2q5t2DOjP




There are a few of these super high speed powerboats (though
not as
powerful as your example) roaring around Chesapeake Bay on flat
calm
summer days. Usually with no mufflers. I suppose if one's penis
isn't
working, having a super ultra-high-speed, super-loud
"Cigarette" style
boat that annoys everyone else enjoying the Bay is the way to
go. When
they crash into another boat or flip, the news videos are
interesting.

They have to be muffled going through Kent Narrows, or they'll
be ticketed.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



I've read about devices that open or close the mufflers on these
boats
with the flip of a switch or lever. I think it is called a muffler
bypass. I wonder if the guys who do that are the richer dads of
the high
school twerps I see (and hear) driving around the (usually)
little Honda
cars with the big aftermarket tailpipes and no or unrestricted
mufflers.

I'm sure there were cheers from the shoreline when this happened:

http://tinyurl.com/klrgfop


"They said it was going too fast for the conditions or the
capabilities of the boat."

Conditions of the water don't look bad, and the boat was probably
in decent shape, if just bought,
so I'm thinking it was the conditions and capabilities of the
operator that caused the spill.

I don't think the 'tuners' to which you refer are owned primarily
by 'rich kids'. The 'rich kids'
drive new Mustangs, 'Vettes, Jaguars, etc. There is a certain
crowd associated with 'tuners',
especially those with flame decals all over them. There are
several in Rose Hill Apartments. You
know, the place where all the MS13 folks hang out.
--

Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It's funny.. Here I am reading the comments on the news page and the
wife of one of the injured comes in telling how folks like our friend
above, comments have kept the poor child up at night crying while her
dad is in the hospital...

The group was great for a few days, why bother with the agitators?

That was a 'non-agitational' post. Good behavior should be rewarded.
I think Pavlov said that. The
'poor child' should not be up at night reading rec.boats.

I'm glad no one was severely injured in the incident, but I'm not
sad to see another Cigarette boat
off the water. They are good only for speed and noise, neither of
which give me a thrill.
--

Hope you're having a spectacular day!


No, the child apparently was up at night because of the comments on the
page where the story was reported locally on the news...

Well, I'm sorry the kid had to be put through that. But, that's
something parents should consider
when acting like dumb asses.
--

Hope you're having a spectacular day!


Agreed.

Imagine the horror your kids experience reading about you on the internets.

On 1/11/2014 1:10 PM, True North wrote:
Since amalgamation in the mid 90's, the police are scarce in the old City of Halifax.

What's that all about?

On 1/11/14, 1:10 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 11 January 2014 13:03:07 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 11:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/11/14, 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:27:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/11/14, 10:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:12:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/11/14, 7:55 AM, Tim wrote:

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...series-112437/



Looks like Mercedes is coming out with a new "cigarette" Hull boat. and with two gas-sucking mercruisers, it ought to move pretty well



"The latest AMG boat is propelled by two 9-liter V-8s sourced from Mercury Marine; combined, they produce close to a whopping 2700 horsepower.



Despite this astounding amount of power, Cigarette Racing claims the engines can run on regular pump gas, which is a good thing, since any mention of fuel consumption is conspicuously absent from the official AMG press release. Much like the price tag on the boat and the C63 Black Series itself, if you have to ask about the fuel consumption, you probably can�t afford the vehicle itself."



Read mo http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz2q5t2DOjP







There are a few of these super high speed powerboats (though not as

powerful as your example) roaring around Chesapeake Bay on flat calm

summer days. Usually with no mufflers. I suppose if one's penis isn't

working, having a super ultra-high-speed, super-loud "Cigarette" style

boat that annoys everyone else enjoying the Bay is the way to go. When

they crash into another boat or flip, the news videos are interesting.



They have to be muffled going through Kent Narrows, or they'll be ticketed.

--



Hope you're day is spectacular!







I've read about devices that open or close the mufflers on these boats

with the flip of a switch or lever. I think it is called a muffler

bypass. I wonder if the guys who do that are the richer dads of the high

school twerps I see (and hear) driving around the (usually) little Honda

cars with the big aftermarket tailpipes and no or unrestricted mufflers.



I'm sure there were cheers from the shoreline when this happened:



http://tinyurl.com/klrgfop





"They said it was going too fast for the conditions or the capabilities of the boat."



Conditions of the water don't look bad, and the boat was probably in decent shape, if just bought,

so I'm thinking it was the conditions and capabilities of the operator that caused the spill.



I don't think the 'tuners' to which you refer are owned primarily by 'rich kids'. The 'rich kids'

drive new Mustangs, 'Vettes, Jaguars, etc. There is a certain crowd associated with 'tuners',

especially those with flame decals all over them. There are several in Rose Hill Apartments. You

know, the place where all the MS13 folks hang out.

--



Hope you're having a spectacular day!





Sorry, not familiar with "Rose Hill Apartments," but apparently you are,

so perhaps you will elucidate. Don't know what you mean by "tuners,"

either. But I see a lot of the cars to which I referred lined up heading

north on Route 4 in the morning, waiting to turn into the high school

parking lot. Maybe we don't have as many rich kids in our area as you

do, because I don't see many Corvettes or Jags in the lines. I do see a

number of Mustangs, though, usually being driven by the girls.



As for the guys in the boat, from reading the news article, I'd agree

with you that it appears to be a case of operator error. Were they

showing off for the chicks on the beach?



On several occasions you've referred to the MS13 gangsters living right across the street from me.

The only source I can think of would be the Rose Hill Apartments, the big apartment complex behind

the shopping center, with which I know you're familiar. That apartment complex is heavily populated

with Latinos, many of whom own 'tuner cars' or tuners.



http://www.yourcustomcar.com/image-files/100_2916.jpg



Mo http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=tuner%20car

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Hope you're having a spectacular day!





Actually, I have referred to the MS-13 gangsters who hang out in and

around the Springfield Mall, which is a couple of miles from your house.

If by "shopping center," you are referring to the little Safeway

shopping center near your house, yes, I am familiar with it, but I am

not familiar with any apartment complexes behind it.



I appreciate the "tuner" references. I've been referring to these cars

and their drivers as boy racers, which apparently is now an obsolete

term to describe that particular car cult. A lot of the high school aged

boys around here drive such cars. The first thing they seem to modify is

the exhaust, to make the car loud. I suppose they like the attention

their exhaust systems get from the local sheriff's deputies.


At one time we had an ordinance to limit altering motorcycle exhaust pipes.
Seems to have gone by the wayside as some of the Harleys are reaching ear splitting levels. Since amalgamation in the mid 90's, the police are scarce in the old City of Halifax.



Some of the southern Maryland Harley riders are running without
mufflers. I don't know why the local deputies don't pull them over. They
should.

On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html

On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html





The telling quote from that article:

"At the time of the rescue, the air temperature was just 8 degrees, with
water temperatures of 35 degrees. Authorities did not say if the men
were wearing life jackets or had them on board. They said strong winds
made the river choppy, conditions challenging for a small boat."


Guys who are smart enough to know better, as your friend obviously was,
sometimes think they are physically invulnerable and take risks they
shouldn't. I've seen a few boaters the last week around here towing
their rigs down to the big public ramp in Solomons, and they weren't
watermen...they were recreational fishermen. It's been cold and windy,
and I would guess the water temp is only in the high 30's. They'd be
better off at one of the local firehouse poker games.

On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html




BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?

On 1/11/2014 3:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html






The telling quote from that article:

"At the time of the rescue, the air temperature was just 8 degrees, with
water temperatures of 35 degrees. Authorities did not say if the men
were wearing life jackets or had them on board. They said strong winds
made the river choppy, conditions challenging for a small boat."


Guys who are smart enough to know better, as your friend obviously was,
sometimes think they are physically invulnerable and take risks they
shouldn't. I've seen a few boaters the last week around here towing
their rigs down to the big public ramp in Solomons, and they weren't
watermen...they were recreational fishermen. It's been cold and windy,
and I would guess the water temp is only in the high 30's. They'd be
better off at one of the local firehouse poker games.



Yeah, it's why I was shocked to hear the news. Poor guy is dead, but he
should have known better. In my mind a small aluminum boat is no place
to be in when water temps are in the mid 30's. You don't last long if
you fall in. Eight degree air temp? No duck is worth that, even if I
were a hunter (which I am not).

On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html





BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.

On 1/11/14, 4:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the
boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html






BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.



A few years ago, one of the local states around here sold off three
Bertram 31' sportfisherman boats that were used as patrol boats. At
least one of them was "converted" back to a pleasure fishing boat by a
first class yard. I saw the boat tied up to a dock at Rudee Inlet at
Virginia Beach. The dockmaster told me the boat was converted from gas
to diesel. Seem to ride high enough in the stern. I don't recall any
more of the particular, but it was one beautiful boat.

On 1/11/2014 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 4:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a
roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the
boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while
duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html







BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.



A few years ago, one of the local states around here sold off three
Bertram 31' sportfisherman boats that were used as patrol boats. At
least one of them was "converted" back to a pleasure fishing boat by a
first class yard. I saw the boat tied up to a dock at Rudee Inlet at
Virginia Beach. The dockmaster told me the boat was converted from gas
to diesel. Seem to ride high enough in the stern. I don't recall any
more of the particular, but it was one beautiful boat.


One of the boats I had that I've never posted much about was a Phoenix
SportsFish. I think it was a 28 footer, IIRC. This model Phoenix is
*very* similar to a Bert, mainly because they were designed by the same
people who developed the Bertram models.

This was a sweet, fast boat. Dual Merc 350's that were only a couple of
years old when I bought it and ran like tops. I actually bought it as
a surprise for my father-in-law hoping that he'd retire his old
Uniflite that was a floating time bomb electrically and made the whole
family nervous whenever he went out. But he didn't want the Phoenix
because unlike his Uniflite, the Phoenix did not have a lower helm station.

So, I used it for a while and then my younger son used it for two
seasons. When he went off to school I sold it to my brother who used it
for several years with virtually no problems or issues. I also had the
37' Egg Sportsfish at the time and my brother would have no problem
following me out 32 miles to our favorite cod fishing spot.

Nice boat. Handled nicely, rode nicely. Shuda kept it, dammit!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Phoenix.jpg?t=1389486466