On 1/11/14, 11:49 AM, KC wrote:
On 1/11/2014 11:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:09:42 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/11/2014 11:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:27:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/11/14, 10:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:12:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/11/14, 7:55 AM, Tim wrote:
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...series-112437/


Looks like Mercedes is coming out with a new "cigarette" Hull
boat. and with two gas-sucking mercruisers, it ought to move
pretty well

"The latest AMG boat is propelled by two 9-liter V-8s sourced
from Mercury Marine; combined, they produce close to a whopping
2700 horsepower.

Despite this astounding amount of power, Cigarette Racing claims
the engines can run on regular pump gas, which is a good thing,
since any mention of fuel consumption is conspicuously absent
from the official AMG press release. Much like the price tag on
the boat and the C63 Black Series itself, if you have to ask
about the fuel consumption, you probably can’t afford the
vehicle itself."

Read mo
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz2q5t2DOjP




There are a few of these super high speed powerboats (though not as
powerful as your example) roaring around Chesapeake Bay on flat calm
summer days. Usually with no mufflers. I suppose if one's penis
isn't
working, having a super ultra-high-speed, super-loud "Cigarette"
style
boat that annoys everyone else enjoying the Bay is the way to go.
When
they crash into another boat or flip, the news videos are
interesting.

They have to be muffled going through Kent Narrows, or they'll be
ticketed.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



I've read about devices that open or close the mufflers on these boats
with the flip of a switch or lever. I think it is called a muffler
bypass. I wonder if the guys who do that are the richer dads of the
high
school twerps I see (and hear) driving around the (usually) little
Honda
cars with the big aftermarket tailpipes and no or unrestricted
mufflers.

I'm sure there were cheers from the shoreline when this happened:

http://tinyurl.com/klrgfop


"They said it was going too fast for the conditions or the
capabilities of the boat."

Conditions of the water don't look bad, and the boat was probably in
decent shape, if just bought,
so I'm thinking it was the conditions and capabilities of the
operator that caused the spill.

I don't think the 'tuners' to which you refer are owned primarily by
'rich kids'. The 'rich kids'
drive new Mustangs, 'Vettes, Jaguars, etc. There is a certain crowd
associated with 'tuners',
especially those with flame decals all over them. There are several
in Rose Hill Apartments. You
know, the place where all the MS13 folks hang out.
--

Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It's funny.. Here I am reading the comments on the news page and the
wife of one of the injured comes in telling how folks like our friend
above, comments have kept the poor child up at night crying while her
dad is in the hospital...

The group was great for a few days, why bother with the agitators?

That was a 'non-agitational' post. Good behavior should be rewarded. I
think Pavlov said that. The
'poor child' should not be up at night reading rec.boats.

I'm glad no one was severely injured in the incident, but I'm not sad
to see another Cigarette boat
off the water. They are good only for speed and noise, neither of
which give me a thrill.
--

Hope you're having a spectacular day!


No, the child apparently was up at night because of the comments on the
page where the story was reported locally on the news...


I read those comments from the wife of one of those involved in the
accident. Instead of defending her husband's apparently stupid
boathandling, perhaps she should have put her foot down and told him
that as her husband and father of their children, he had no right to be
engaging in that sort of behavior.

About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.

On 1/11/2014 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
It was cold as a roomful of ex-wives that day

The facts you admit to knowing are often amusing. ;-)

On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html

On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html





The telling quote from that article:

"At the time of the rescue, the air temperature was just 8 degrees, with
water temperatures of 35 degrees. Authorities did not say if the men
were wearing life jackets or had them on board. They said strong winds
made the river choppy, conditions challenging for a small boat."


Guys who are smart enough to know better, as your friend obviously was,
sometimes think they are physically invulnerable and take risks they
shouldn't. I've seen a few boaters the last week around here towing
their rigs down to the big public ramp in Solomons, and they weren't
watermen...they were recreational fishermen. It's been cold and windy,
and I would guess the water temp is only in the high 30's. They'd be
better off at one of the local firehouse poker games.

On 1/11/2014 3:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html






The telling quote from that article:

"At the time of the rescue, the air temperature was just 8 degrees, with
water temperatures of 35 degrees. Authorities did not say if the men
were wearing life jackets or had them on board. They said strong winds
made the river choppy, conditions challenging for a small boat."


Guys who are smart enough to know better, as your friend obviously was,
sometimes think they are physically invulnerable and take risks they
shouldn't. I've seen a few boaters the last week around here towing
their rigs down to the big public ramp in Solomons, and they weren't
watermen...they were recreational fishermen. It's been cold and windy,
and I would guess the water temp is only in the high 30's. They'd be
better off at one of the local firehouse poker games.



Yeah, it's why I was shocked to hear the news. Poor guy is dead, but he
should have known better. In my mind a small aluminum boat is no place
to be in when water temps are in the mid 30's. You don't last long if
you fall in. Eight degree air temp? No duck is worth that, even if I
were a hunter (which I am not).

On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html




BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?

On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html





BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.

On 1/11/14, 4:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the
boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html






BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.



A few years ago, one of the local states around here sold off three
Bertram 31' sportfisherman boats that were used as patrol boats. At
least one of them was "converted" back to a pleasure fishing boat by a
first class yard. I saw the boat tied up to a dock at Rudee Inlet at
Virginia Beach. The dockmaster told me the boat was converted from gas
to diesel. Seem to ride high enough in the stern. I don't recall any
more of the particular, but it was one beautiful boat.

On 1/11/2014 5:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 4:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2014 3:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 3:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/14, 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


About 25 years ago, a friend of mine was out duckhunting on the Bay in
one of those dark green aluminum "duck boats." It was cold as a
roomful
of ex-wives that day, and while I don't call the circumstances, the
boat
capsized and my friend and a buddy of his drowned. At his funeral, the
comments included remarks from his close friends who wondered what the
hell a married man with small children was doing out on the Bay on a
bitter cold day hunting ducks from a small boat.

Indeed.




A guy I know just died in a boating accident in Westport, CT. while
duck
hunting.

He ran the local Monster Shark Tournaments for years and kept his boat
in a slip near mine in Scituate Harbor. Steve James was a very
experienced boater and I was shocked to learn of this accident.

He also recently returned from a trip to Africa, BTW.

I remember he had a nice Blackfin that he retrofitted with Yanmar
diesels, replacing the original gas engines. Boat sat very low in the
water after the conversion.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/01/07/three-duck-hunters-fall-into-westport-river-rescued-first-responders-but-conditions-unknown/f8fD65Go56gVCwzHbhOJFL/story.html







BTW, you should consider putting in a bid for that Blackfin. Many of
them were and are first-class boats, and a lot less fuss than the bigger
boats. What is it, a 29 or 32?


I think his was a 29'. There were a couple of Blackfins on our dock in
Scituate and I always liked them.

I was at the dock when he splashed it after the diesel conversion and
helped him tie up in his slip. I couldn't believe how much lower it sat
in the water. Blackfins have a low freeboard at the stern even with gas
engines. The extra weight of the diesels (and new fuel tanks) really
made it squat down.



A few years ago, one of the local states around here sold off three
Bertram 31' sportfisherman boats that were used as patrol boats. At
least one of them was "converted" back to a pleasure fishing boat by a
first class yard. I saw the boat tied up to a dock at Rudee Inlet at
Virginia Beach. The dockmaster told me the boat was converted from gas
to diesel. Seem to ride high enough in the stern. I don't recall any
more of the particular, but it was one beautiful boat.


One of the boats I had that I've never posted much about was a Phoenix
SportsFish. I think it was a 28 footer, IIRC. This model Phoenix is
*very* similar to a Bert, mainly because they were designed by the same
people who developed the Bertram models.

This was a sweet, fast boat. Dual Merc 350's that were only a couple of
years old when I bought it and ran like tops. I actually bought it as
a surprise for my father-in-law hoping that he'd retire his old
Uniflite that was a floating time bomb electrically and made the whole
family nervous whenever he went out. But he didn't want the Phoenix
because unlike his Uniflite, the Phoenix did not have a lower helm station.

So, I used it for a while and then my younger son used it for two
seasons. When he went off to school I sold it to my brother who used it
for several years with virtually no problems or issues. I also had the
37' Egg Sportsfish at the time and my brother would have no problem
following me out 32 miles to our favorite cod fishing spot.

Nice boat. Handled nicely, rode nicely. Shuda kept it, dammit!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Phoenix.jpg?t=1389486466

On Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:43:36 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Nice boat. Handled nicely, rode nicely. Shuda kept it, dammit!



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/Phoenix.jpg?t=1389486466

Very nice, Richard. But over time, it'd probably be clapped out by now..

But it looks great while it was young!