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http://www.mareeg.com/somali-pirates...ats-this-year/
According to this article the Somalians didn't get jack crap last year. Probably due to the patrolling going on, not counting 10 captured and receiving life imprisonment with no parole by the UAE http://www.thenational.ae/uae/courts...-supreme-court I'm sure the Maersk Alabama incident had a lot to do with it as well. But piracy still goes on in the Gulf of Guinea... http://allafrica.com/stories/201312171230.html |
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:12:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
http://www.mareeg.com/somali-pirates...ats-this-year/ According to this article the Somalians didn't get jack crap last year. Probably due to the patrolling going on, not counting 10 captured and receiving life imprisonment with no parole by the UAE http://www.thenational.ae/uae/courts...-supreme-court I'm sure the Maersk Alabama incident had a lot to do with it as well. But piracy still goes on in the Gulf of Guinea... http://allafrica.com/stories/201312171230.html Maybe they heard about all us 'Ma Deuce' volunteers. -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on...
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. That .50 cal will reach out a mile and scare the **** out of folks. -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" |
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On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... |
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:28:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" I thought that was Ol' Hickory at the Battle of New Orleans? Damn, did Johnny get it wrong? -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:10:13 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... I've heard the same, Scott. I always thought the better plan would be to pick up hired privateers in Int'l waters, who would be equipped with a high speed inflatable and various weaponry- That could easily be dispatched if a small boat was sited and approaching within 3 mi. (give or take)... Eh, you know what's next. The retire the contractors in Int'l waters while headed for port. |
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On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:56:10 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" I thought that was Ol' Hickory at the Battle of New Orleans? Damn, did Johnny get it wrong? -- Hope you're day is spectacular! Not pointing an acusing finger, but somebody got it wrong.. |
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On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:
On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. |
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H."
wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. |
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On Friday, January 10, 2014 11:38:21 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. That's why you arm up in int'l water. |
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On 1/10/2014 9:52 PM, John H. wrote:
On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. Because it would escalate, the pirates would swarm with rockets and it only takes one to get to the big ship hull and it's over... Either way, they do not want that escalation, I think they would rather have the ship be taken, and then fight with professionals, on known ground rather than even professionals fighting after being surprised on the open ocean... It the incident they made the movie about, the US special forces "fought" (blew the suckers heads off) after making the circumstances, and setting the playing field... No innocents got hurt, the ship was not damaged... |
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On 1/10/2014 11:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Sure, but they are mounted on choppers and go fasts... Not to mention, if you bring something big enough to shoot back at the CG with, a quick radio call and it's gonna' rain depleted uranium on your ass in minutes... I doubt a private ship has that kind of backup... |
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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On 1/10/14, 9:52 PM, John H. wrote:
The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. Most merchant vessels, even American-flagged ones, have minimal crews these days, and at night, when the majority of pirate boardings take place, the number of able seamen and lower rank officers on watch duty is even lower. Further, the shipboard radar sets on merchant vessels aren't likely on the high seas to pick up a small, low profile "pirate" vessel from among the rest of the clutter on the screen. What will arming merchant ships with 50-caliber machine guns do? It will ensure that more merchant ship crew members are killed. There are many who believe that firearms are the answer to every outbreak of social unrest and crime. The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. |
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On 1/11/14, 8:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I値l be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. |
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On 1/11/2014 8:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I値l be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. Forever the asshole. You have back taxes dating back to the mid nineties. FYI Jane Lynch is getting a divorce from her husband, wife, significant other, partner. or whatever you want to call it. The other party is seeking 100K monthly alimony. I suppose that's as legitimate as the sanctity of gay marriage. Right? |
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On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. Tell us what, asshole? |
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:55:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/11/14, 8:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. ....trying to make a couple folks here feel better. -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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On 1/11/14, 10:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:55:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/11/14, 8:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. ...trying to make a couple folks here feel better. -- Hope you're day is spectacular! Oh. Well, that explains it. :) |
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On 1/11/14, 10:05 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/11/2014 8:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I値l be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. Forever the asshole. You have back taxes dating back to the mid nineties. FYI Jane Lynch is getting a divorce from her husband, wife, significant other, partner. or whatever you want to call it. The other party is seeking 100K monthly alimony. I suppose that's as legitimate as the sanctity of gay marriage. Right? Ahh, I see you're still involved in posting personal insults here, and I'll bet you are among those who wanted rec.boats to be a kinder, gentler, place, too. Sorry, but I have no idea who Jane Lynch is. But you seem to know. Is she some sort of pop star or athlete? I'm not much of a follower of "pop" culture. |
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On 1/11/2014 10:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/11/14, 10:05 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/11/2014 8:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I値l be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. Forever the asshole. You have back taxes dating back to the mid nineties. FYI Jane Lynch is getting a divorce from her husband, wife, significant other, partner. or whatever you want to call it. The other party is seeking 100K monthly alimony. I suppose that's as legitimate as the sanctity of gay marriage. Right? Ahh, I see you're still involved in posting personal insults here, and I'll bet you are among those who wanted rec.boats to be a kinder, gentler, place, too. Sorry, but I have no idea who Jane Lynch is. But you seem to know. Is she some sort of pop star or athlete? I'm not much of a follower of "pop" culture. I'll bet you know who Jane Lynch is by now. What is it exactly that you consider a personal insult? I'm sorry if I offended you. |
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On 1/11/14, 10:39 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/11/2014 10:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/11/14, 10:05 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/11/2014 8:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I値l be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. Forever the asshole. You have back taxes dating back to the mid nineties. FYI Jane Lynch is getting a divorce from her husband, wife, significant other, partner. or whatever you want to call it. The other party is seeking 100K monthly alimony. I suppose that's as legitimate as the sanctity of gay marriage. Right? Ahh, I see you're still involved in posting personal insults here, and I'll bet you are among those who wanted rec.boats to be a kinder, gentler, place, too. Sorry, but I have no idea who Jane Lynch is. But you seem to know. Is she some sort of pop star or athlete? I'm not much of a follower of "pop" culture. I'll bet you know who Jane Lynch is by now. What is it exactly that you consider a personal insult? I'm sorry if I offended you. No, FlaJim. I have no idea who Jane Lynch is, and if you can't figure out if what you post is personally insulting, then I am afraid I cannot help you. Since you obviously are familiar with Ms. Lynch, perhaps you will tell us all who she is and why she is important to you. |
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On Saturday, 11 January 2014 11:07:57 UTC-4, Hank wrote:
On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. Tell us what, asshole? Boy.. here we are, right back to name calling. And to think that some here blame Harry, and to a lesser extent me, for all the problems in this newsgroup. Thanks for helping to clear all that up. |
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On 1/11/14, 11:12 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 11 January 2014 11:07:57 UTC-4, Hank wrote: On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. Tell us what, asshole? Boy.. here we are, right back to name calling. And to think that some here blame Harry, and to a lesser extent me, for all the problems in this newsgroup. Thanks for helping to clear all that up. :) |
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On 1/11/14, 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:31:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. Chain guns or 5"ers may be a little expensive to mount on all those ships, but M2s or M85s should be reasonably priced. They'd definitely keep the fishing boats out of RPG or AK-47 range. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Once again, you fellas are overestimating the crew sizes and capabilities of the crews aboard those merchant vessels, and the ability to see visually or via radar a small boat coming alongside at night for a clandestine boarding. Most of these vessels have fewer than 20 officers and seamen aboard. There are many non-security duties aboard ships, and a number of these duties require 24-7 attention, so the number of crew available to stand watch in four six hour shifts is minimal. How would you expect a merchant crew to stand extra watches and also have the armament and training and time to ward off pirates, especially at night? |
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On 1/11/2014 10:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
No, FlaJim. I have no idea who Jane Lynch is, and if you can't figure out if what you post is personally insulting, then I am afraid I cannot help you. Since you obviously are familiar with Ms. Lynch, perhaps you will tell us all who she is and why she is important to you. She is googleable just like everything else. If you are insulted by the mention of your sketchy financial history then you deserve no less than a daily dose of reminders. Serves you right for being a low life. |
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On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, KC wrote:
Again, who runs them? Are you going to train the crew to use the weapon in a moments notice? What if it jams on an inexperienced user, then the pirates come in, and they are ****ed too.... Maybe they could hire ex-military lunch ladies and janitors... ;) |
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On 1/11/2014 11:12 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 11 January 2014 11:07:57 UTC-4, Hank wrote: On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. Tell us what, asshole? Boy.. here we are, right back to name calling. And to think that some here blame Harry, and to a lesser extent me, for all the problems in this newsgroup. Thanks for helping to clear all that up. Ahhh. You noticed that the crap started right up again on Krause's return from his trip to the zoo. No fleas on you, young fella. |
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:50:53 -0500, KC wrote:
On 1/11/2014 11:31 AM, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. And you want some ocean going longshoreman working that equipment? No, hire a couple security folks who can fire a .50 cal machine gun. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
"0" Pirating last year?
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/11/14, 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:31:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. Chain guns or 5"ers may be a little expensive to mount on all those ships, but M2s or M85s should be reasonably priced. They'd definitely keep the fishing boats out of RPG or AK-47 range. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Once again, you fellas are overestimating the crew sizes and capabilities of the crews aboard those merchant vessels, and the ability to see visually or via radar a small boat coming alongside at night for a clandestine boarding. Most of these vessels have fewer than 20 officers and seamen aboard. There are many non-security duties aboard ships, and a number of these duties require 24-7 attention, so the number of crew available to stand watch in four six hour shifts is minimal. How would you expect a merchant crew to stand extra watches and also have the armament and training and time to ward off pirates, especially at night? Yup. Train a couple to operate the .50. They're not difficult to operate, or clear, if there's a jam. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On 1/11/14, 1:35 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/11/2014 10:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: No, FlaJim. I have no idea who Jane Lynch is, and if you can't figure out if what you post is personally insulting, then I am afraid I cannot help you. Since you obviously are familiar with Ms. Lynch, perhaps you will tell us all who she is and why she is important to you. She is googleable just like everything else. If you are insulted by the mention of your sketchy financial history then you deserve no less than a daily dose of reminders. Serves you right for being a low life. So, might we presume that *you* won't be one of those in the future whining about the "tone" and name-calling and suchlike in rec.boats, eh? |
"0" Pirating last year?
On 1/11/14, 2:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 1/11/14, 11:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:31:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. Chain guns or 5"ers may be a little expensive to mount on all those ships, but M2s or M85s should be reasonably priced. They'd definitely keep the fishing boats out of RPG or AK-47 range. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Once again, you fellas are overestimating the crew sizes and capabilities of the crews aboard those merchant vessels, and the ability to see visually or via radar a small boat coming alongside at night for a clandestine boarding. Most of these vessels have fewer than 20 officers and seamen aboard. There are many non-security duties aboard ships, and a number of these duties require 24-7 attention, so the number of crew available to stand watch in four six hour shifts is minimal. How would you expect a merchant crew to stand extra watches and also have the armament and training and time to ward off pirates, especially at night? Yup. Train a couple to operate the .50. They're not difficult to operate, or clear, if there's a jam. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! Once again, you are dismissing the fact that most pirate boardings take place at night, when those on the large ship cannot see the pirate boats. What are you going to be shooting at with those weapons? Passing waves? |
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On 1/11/2014 2:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:50:53 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/11/2014 11:31 AM, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. And you want some ocean going longshoreman working that equipment? No, hire a couple security folks who can fire a .50 cal machine gun. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! How many teams... one gun for the whole ship isn't gonna' do it? Those ships are pretty big. |
"0" Pirating last year?
On 1/11/14, 4:46 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/11/2014 2:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:50:53 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/11/2014 11:31 AM, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:25:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. We had six M2s and a 5"/38. That will really reach out there and put a 50 pound projectile on target up to 10 miles away. The 83 footers carried an 81mm That will get your attention too. I think they also started using the 20mm chain guns. And you want some ocean going longshoreman working that equipment? No, hire a couple security folks who can fire a .50 cal machine gun. -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! How many teams... one gun for the whole ship isn't gonna' do it? Those ships are pretty big. Until recently, marine security experts have advised against arming shipboard crews against pirate boardings. I don't know if this advise has changed. |
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