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Merry Christmas All !!
Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents!
Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On 12/25/2013 5:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Don't forget to wish Jesus happy birthday. |
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On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Nice... spent the day with my girls, got a flux core, wire feed, welder so I guess it's time for me and Jess to learn a new art:) |
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On 12/25/2013 10:41 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:06:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Christmas was a bit of a downer, especially for Mrs.E. this year for several reasons. Five of our seven grandkids all live either in SC or FL, so the only two left up here are my daughter's two boys, aged 17 and 14. Mrs.E., being the typical Italian grandma, really missed having all the "little ones" around for the first time in our married years and it showed. I was able to get Skype installed and running on her 27" iMac, so she spent about an hour talking and watching my older son's family in SC and seeing his two older daughters and 2 year old twins (boy and girl) witnessing the magic of Santa Clause. We talked later and I realized it's been tough on her. She misses seeing all the kids, plus her father passed away at the end of November and then my mother went two weeks later, so the whole pre-Christmas season has been filled with funerals and burials. Hopefully we can just chalk it up to a "bad year" and those in the future will be much better. Maybe I can finally convince her that we should sell this place, get rid of the horses and move where it's warm and closer to the rest of the family! You might be able to sweeten the deal of you show her the "horsie country" in Florida. That whole area of central Florida between US 70 and I-4 is full of small ranchettes and people who love their steeds. She's aware of them. You may not know that we had a winter home in Jupiter, FL for three years. It was a small, five acre "ranch" set in an equestrian section of a gated community. Plus, there was another section of the community that had larger (20 acre) horse ranches. We had horses all around us. She transported hers down there for the winters. I don't think Florida is in the cards for us, at least not year round. I really enjoyed the winters there but I don't think we could handle the summers. Plus, the coastal areas in that area were were too congested and seemed to be 95 percent paved over. We were about 12 miles inland, so it wasn't as bad but driving anywhere seemed like you saw nothing but condos, concrete and asphalt. As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:33:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) ====== There's some very decent horse country in and around Ft Myers, and it is also close to some very good boating. Summers are not a walk in the park but are bearable. Congestion is not even remotely close to what you see on the east coast. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. |
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On 12/26/2013 12:25 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:33:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) ====== There's some very decent horse country in and around Ft Myers, and it is also close to some very good boating. Summers are not a walk in the park but are bearable. Congestion is not even remotely close to what you see on the east coast. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Got any tips for my "negotiations"? So far they have seemed to stall. (horse reference) :-) |
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On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:49:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:11 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Nice... spent the day with my girls, got a flux core, wire feed, welder so I guess it's time for me and Jess to learn a new art:) I have a little Lincoln 100a (used/free from a friend) but I still have not done a lot with it. I played with it a little and it crapped out. Something went wrong in the wire guide of the lead. I never took the time to get the wire free. I think that is why I ended up with it. I keep promising myself I am going to buy the MIG conversion kit that replaces all of that stuff along with a gas feed but I haven't seen the need yet. I still have my old stick box. I really want a TIG. I have a Hobart 180. It'll do flux core or gas, and while flux core does the job, the gas is much cleaner with better results. With gas you do need to be indoors or in calm wind. Squirting wire (MIG) is pretty easy to learn. My understanding is that TIG has a much steeper learning curve. |
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On 12/25/13, 11:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/25/2013 10:41 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:06:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Christmas was a bit of a downer, especially for Mrs.E. this year for several reasons. Five of our seven grandkids all live either in SC or FL, so the only two left up here are my daughter's two boys, aged 17 and 14. Mrs.E., being the typical Italian grandma, really missed having all the "little ones" around for the first time in our married years and it showed. I was able to get Skype installed and running on her 27" iMac, so she spent about an hour talking and watching my older son's family in SC and seeing his two older daughters and 2 year old twins (boy and girl) witnessing the magic of Santa Clause. We talked later and I realized it's been tough on her. She misses seeing all the kids, plus her father passed away at the end of November and then my mother went two weeks later, so the whole pre-Christmas season has been filled with funerals and burials. Hopefully we can just chalk it up to a "bad year" and those in the future will be much better. Maybe I can finally convince her that we should sell this place, get rid of the horses and move where it's warm and closer to the rest of the family! You might be able to sweeten the deal of you show her the "horsie country" in Florida. That whole area of central Florida between US 70 and I-4 is full of small ranchettes and people who love their steeds. She's aware of them. You may not know that we had a winter home in Jupiter, FL for three years. It was a small, five acre "ranch" set in an equestrian section of a gated community. Plus, there was another section of the community that had larger (20 acre) horse ranches. We had horses all around us. She transported hers down there for the winters. I don't think Florida is in the cards for us, at least not year round. I really enjoyed the winters there but I don't think we could handle the summers. Plus, the coastal areas in that area were were too congested and seemed to be 95 percent paved over. We were about 12 miles inland, so it wasn't as bad but driving anywhere seemed like you saw nothing but condos, concrete and asphalt. As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) I remember seeing some pretty horse farms between Tallahassee and Panama City, and the topography is a lot hillier out that way than it is in much of central and southern Florida. Nice flora, too, and the Gulf of Mexico is a great place to fish and boat. It also seems cooler out there in the summers than central and south Florida, and it is far less densely populated in many areas. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/26/2013 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:49:39 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:11 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Nice... spent the day with my girls, got a flux core, wire feed, welder so I guess it's time for me and Jess to learn a new art:) I have a little Lincoln 100a (used/free from a friend) but I still have not done a lot with it. I played with it a little and it crapped out. Something went wrong in the wire guide of the lead. I never took the time to get the wire free. I think that is why I ended up with it. I keep promising myself I am going to buy the MIG conversion kit that replaces all of that stuff along with a gas feed but I haven't seen the need yet. I still have my old stick box. I really want a TIG. I have a Hobart 180. It'll do flux core or gas, and while flux core does the job, the gas is much cleaner with better results. With gas you do need to be indoors or in calm wind. Squirting wire (MIG) is pretty easy to learn. My understanding is that TIG has a much steeper learning curve. Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. |
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On 12/26/2013 8:11 AM, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 7:55 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:49:39 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:11 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Nice... spent the day with my girls, got a flux core, wire feed, welder so I guess it's time for me and Jess to learn a new art:) I have a little Lincoln 100a (used/free from a friend) but I still have not done a lot with it. I played with it a little and it crapped out. Something went wrong in the wire guide of the lead. I never took the time to get the wire free. I think that is why I ended up with it. I keep promising myself I am going to buy the MIG conversion kit that replaces all of that stuff along with a gas feed but I haven't seen the need yet. I still have my old stick box. I really want a TIG. I have a Hobart 180. It'll do flux core or gas, and while flux core does the job, the gas is much cleaner with better results. With gas you do need to be indoors or in calm wind. Squirting wire (MIG) is pretty easy to learn. My understanding is that TIG has a much steeper learning curve. Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. TIG welding is an art form to me. I learned to use both TIG and MIG welders, although my welds look horrible compared to the highly skilled and certified welders I've known over the years. In the business I was in, the large (up to 120" square) vacuum chambers are constructed of half-inch thick (or thicker) stainless steel plate. The welds required for vacuum integrity all have to be TIG welded to ensure 100 percent root penetration to eliminate any microscopic voids or cracks. You could hold liquids with no problem with these microscopic cracks because the molecules in the liquid are larger than the cracks ... therefore no leakage. But to many gases in the atmosphere the same crack looks like the Grand Canyon. We put "stiffeners" on the chambers to add the required wall strength to withstand a 14.7 psi pressure delta. A 60" square chamber under vacuum has about 26 tons of force per side trying to crush it like a tin can. Those welds were structural only and therefore could be MIG welded. Watching the quality of the "bead" that some of the welders could lay down over a long distance was amazing. Tedious work, but critical to the vacuum integrity of the chamber. |
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:55:28 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
TIG welding is an art form to me. I learned to use both TIG and MIG welders, although my welds look horrible compared to the highly skilled and certified welders I've known over the years. Absolutely! I'm just a hobby welder... I can stick metal together, but it's not always very pretty. Just like a good golf shot, occasionally I'll lay down some good puddles, but then right next to it I'll create something ugly. A friend who's a metal artist and a good MIG/TIG welder told me that's what grinders are made for. :-) |
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:11:53 AM UTC-5, KC wrote:
Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. Get some scrap metal and practice! Since my first project was (and still is) some auto body work, I went by a friends body shop and got some body panels that were pulled from wrecks. Cut a chunk out, weld it back in, repeat.. Tough to do at first without blowing holes through it. Figured out later that thicker metal is easier to weld, you just have to worry about getting enough penetration instead of too much. Get a decent quality welding helmet. Gotta protect those eyes. |
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:42:28 AM UTC-5, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 10:29 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:11:53 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. Get some scrap metal and practice! Since my first project was (and still is) some auto body work, I went by a friends body shop and got some body panels that were pulled from wrecks. Cut a chunk out, weld it back in, repeat. Tough to do at first without blowing holes through it. Figured out later that thicker metal is easier to weld, you just have to worry about getting enough penetration instead of too much. Get a decent quality welding helmet. Gotta protect those eyes. That is an issue. They got me a number 5 lens on goggles but I can still see through them indoors and that concernes me. I was looking at a couple of the auto tint helmets at Harbor Freight and it says they change in 1/25000 of a second... that scares me too. Any input from you all on helmets and what is a "decent quality" welding helmet... If you got a minute, maybe show me a link to one you would use (if you were on a tight budget like me:)...? Thanks. Personally, I'd stay away from the Harbor Freight helmets. Their stuff tends to be very cheaply made, and while I'd consider buying something there that I would only use a couple of times, if it's something that I want to keep and use for a long time (like my eyes) I buy the best I can. A decent helmet would be somthing like this: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...1185_200591185 Name brand with some reputation of queality. A Lincoln would be good, too. You can spend a lot more for professional stuff (for people using them 8 hours a day!), but for occasional hobby use these are good. Don't worry about the switching time. Even 1/12,000 of a second is fine, again, for hobby use. If you were welding for hours on end, you'd want faster or a permanent tint lense. That's my advice. Check with your pro welder buddy. I think he'll steer you away from HF, too. |
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On 12/26/2013 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:42:28 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 12/26/2013 10:29 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:11:53 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. Get some scrap metal and practice! Since my first project was (and still is) some auto body work, I went by a friends body shop and got some body panels that were pulled from wrecks. Cut a chunk out, weld it back in, repeat. Tough to do at first without blowing holes through it. Figured out later that thicker metal is easier to weld, you just have to worry about getting enough penetration instead of too much. Get a decent quality welding helmet. Gotta protect those eyes. That is an issue. They got me a number 5 lens on goggles but I can still see through them indoors and that concernes me. I was looking at a couple of the auto tint helmets at Harbor Freight and it says they change in 1/25000 of a second... that scares me too. Any input from you all on helmets and what is a "decent quality" welding helmet... If you got a minute, maybe show me a link to one you would use (if you were on a tight budget like me:)...? Thanks. Personally, I'd stay away from the Harbor Freight helmets. Their stuff tends to be very cheaply made, and while I'd consider buying something there that I would only use a couple of times, if it's something that I want to keep and use for a long time (like my eyes) I buy the best I can. A decent helmet would be somthing like this: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...1185_200591185 Name brand with some reputation of queality. A Lincoln would be good, too. You can spend a lot more for professional stuff (for people using them 8 hours a day!), but for occasional hobby use these are good. Don't worry about the switching time. Even 1/12,000 of a second is fine, again, for hobby use. If you were welding for hours on end, you'd want faster or a permanent tint lense. That's my advice. Check with your pro welder buddy. I think he'll steer you away from HF, too. Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:32:35 -0500, Hank© wrote:
On 12/25/2013 5:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Don't forget to wish Jesus happy birthday. Done. Christmas Eve candlelight service. Very nice, lots of singing, nice sermon. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:27:38 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Our kids and grandkids are all coming later today. Open presents and then eat. I'm cheating, cooking only spaghetti and garlic bread and salad (brought by daughter). Kids'll love it though. -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:06:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Christmas was a bit of a downer, especially for Mrs.E. this year for several reasons. Five of our seven grandkids all live either in SC or FL, so the only two left up here are my daughter's two boys, aged 17 and 14. Mrs.E., being the typical Italian grandma, really missed having all the "little ones" around for the first time in our married years and it showed. I was able to get Skype installed and running on her 27" iMac, so she spent about an hour talking and watching my older son's family in SC and seeing his two older daughters and 2 year old twins (boy and girl) witnessing the magic of Santa Clause. We talked later and I realized it's been tough on her. She misses seeing all the kids, plus her father passed away at the end of November and then my mother went two weeks later, so the whole pre-Christmas season has been filled with funerals and burials. Hopefully we can just chalk it up to a "bad year" and those in the future will be much better. Maybe I can finally convince her that we should sell this place, get rid of the horses and move where it's warm and closer to the rest of the family! How does the rest of the family get their presents from you folks? My rule is pretty simple - if you want your gifts, you gotta come here to get them! -- Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year! John H |
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On 12/26/2013 11:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote: Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a #5. That is more like a gas shade. A number 5 permanent lens is too light for welding. It's for a cutting torch or something. Auto darkening lens have two numbers associated with them. The first is the lens darkness with no welding going on. The second is the darkness when triggered by exposure to the arc. A number 5 auto darkening lens would allow you to still see through it slightly when not welding but would then go to a higher number when exposed to the arc. Depending on the amps being drawn, you want at least a number 10 permanent lens or an auto darkening that goes to at least 10 for flux core welding. Thanks, I thought it was weird that I could see inside the house with the goggles I got from Santa:) Guess he isn't a welder... I will shoot them back and get a Hobart Helmet or similar... with a 10 or higher lens. |
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On 12/26/2013 12:43 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote: Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a #5. That is more like a gas shade. A number 5 permanent lens is too light for welding. It's for a cutting torch or something. Auto darkening lens have two numbers associated with them. The first is the lens darkness with no welding going on. The second is the darkness when triggered by exposure to the arc. A number 5 auto darkening lens would allow you to still see through it slightly when not welding but would then go to a higher number when exposed to the arc. Depending on the amps being drawn, you want at least a number 10 permanent lens or an auto darkening that goes to at least 10 for flux core welding. Thanks, I thought it was weird that I could see inside the house with the goggles I got from Santa:) Guess he isn't a welder... I will shoot them back and get a Hobart Helmet or similar... with a 10 or higher lens. At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together along the edge where they met. One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore in frustration. |
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On 12/26/13, 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together along the edge where they met. One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore in frustration. Well, you might have ended up with a battery of sorts. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/26/2013 1:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/26/13, 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together along the edge where they met. One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore in frustration. Well, you might have ended up with a battery of sorts. How's that? |
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:40:48 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote: Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a #5. That is more like a gas shade. What about a MiG wire feed? Or is that one of the ones you mentioned above? MIG stands for Metal Inert Gas, and is a form of arc welding. The wire carries the current and is the filler, and the gas flowing from the gun shields the arc. The flux in flux core wire generates the gas when it burns instead of having to have a gas bottle and its associated regulator and plumbing. |
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On 12/26/13, 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:20:39 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:27:38 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Our kids and grandkids are all coming later today. Open presents and then eat. I'm cheating, cooking only spaghetti and garlic bread and salad (brought by daughter). Kids'll love it though. We did the traditional Mexican food on Christmas eve, enchiladas, tacos, refritos, rice with a chips and salsa appetizer. I made spaghetti sauce last night. I cooked a pair of rock cornish game hens. We split one and put the other in the fridge. I like to salt and pepper and paprika them and put on a glaze of apricot sauce before I bake them. Also made homemade stuffing in a baking dish...stuffing mix, with sauteed peppers, onions and mushrooms, plus the infamous green bean-mushroom soup-dried onions casserole, and for dessert, homemade pumpkin pie. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/26/2013 2:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/26/13, 1:53 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:20:39 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:27:38 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Our kids and grandkids are all coming later today. Open presents and then eat. I'm cheating, cooking only spaghetti and garlic bread and salad (brought by daughter). Kids'll love it though. We did the traditional Mexican food on Christmas eve, enchiladas, tacos, refritos, rice with a chips and salsa appetizer. I made spaghetti sauce last night. I cooked a pair of rock cornish game hens. We split one and put the other in the fridge. I like to salt and pepper and paprika them and put on a glaze of apricot sauce before I bake them. Also made homemade stuffing in a baking dish...stuffing mix, with sauteed peppers, onions and mushrooms, plus the infamous green bean-mushroom soup-dried onions casserole, and for dessert, homemade pumpkin pie. You couldn't eat both pigeons at one sitting? -- Americans deserve better. |
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 00:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/26/2013 12:25 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:33:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) ====== There's some very decent horse country in and around Ft Myers, and it is also close to some very good boating. Summers are not a walk in the park but are bearable. Congestion is not even remotely close to what you see on the east coast. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Got any tips for my "negotiations"? So far they have seemed to stall. (horse reference) :-) === Negotiations? Wait for a really cold, windy blizzard and ask Mrs E where she would rather be at age 80. It worked for me. :-) Keeping the horses in a stall all winter has got to be bad for their psyche. I'd think that the idea of being able to ride 12 months a year would have some appeal. |
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KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:05 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:42:28 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 12/26/2013 10:29 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:11:53 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. Get some scrap metal and practice! Since my first project was (and still is) some auto body work, I went by a friends body shop and got some body panels that were pulled from wrecks. Cut a chunk out, weld it back in, repeat. Tough to do at first without blowing holes through it. Figured out later that thicker metal is easier to weld, you just have to worry about getting enough penetration instead of too much. Get a decent quality welding helmet. Gotta protect those eyes. That is an issue. They got me a number 5 lens on goggles but I can still see through them indoors and that concernes me. I was looking at a couple of the auto tint helmets at Harbor Freight and it says they change in 1/25000 of a second... that scares me too. Any input from you all on helmets and what is a "decent quality" welding helmet... If you got a minute, maybe show me a link to one you would use (if you were on a tight budget like me:)...? Thanks. Personally, I'd stay away from the Harbor Freight helmets. Their stuff tends to be very cheaply made, and while I'd consider buying something there that I would only use a couple of times, if it's something that I want to keep and use for a long time (like my eyes) I buy the best I can. A decent helmet would be somthing like this: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...1185_200591185 Name brand with some reputation of queality. A Lincoln would be good, too. You can spend a lot more for professional stuff (for people using them 8 hours a day!), but for occasional hobby use these are good. Don't worry about the switching time. Even 1/12,000 of a second is fine, again, for hobby use. If you were welding for hours on end, you'd want faster or a permanent tint lense. That's my advice. Check with your pro welder buddy. I think he'll steer you away from HF, too. Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... It is the shade of the lens |
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote: Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a #5. That is more like a gas shade. And if you do a lot of gas welding, forget the goggles and get a full face mask and get a #5 shade for it. Like http://www.amazon.com/US-Forge-99111.../dp/B000KKT6VY but you can get a shaded mask for it. Go to a welding supply store and look. Protects pops and splatters. |
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KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 10:29 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:11:53 AM UTC-5, KC wrote: Yeah, that's where they told me to start. Jess and I have a bud across town who is a welder by trade, said to call him as soon as I get a machine and he will head over to start the lessons:) I already have a couple projects in the works. Get some scrap metal and practice! Since my first project was (and still is) some auto body work, I went by a friends body shop and got some body panels that were pulled from wrecks. Cut a chunk out, weld it back in, repeat. Tough to do at first without blowing holes through it. Figured out later that thicker metal is easier to weld, you just have to worry about getting enough penetration instead of too much. Get a decent quality welding helmet. Gotta protect those eyes. That is an issue. They got me a number 5 lens on goggles but I can still see through them indoors and that concernes me. I was looking at a couple of the auto tint helmets at Harbor Freight and it says they change in 1/25000 of a second... that scares me too. Any input from you all on helmets and what is a "decent quality" welding helmet... If you got a minute, maybe show me a link to one you would use (if you were on a tight budget like me:)...? Thanks. The HF helmet is fine. I use a Jackson helmet and I like the fit. Even if the helmet is slow changing, you might get bright light, but even if the helmet did not change it protects the eyes from the UV, so no flash burns. |
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:55:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: TIG welding is an art form to me. I learned to use both TIG and MIG welders, although my welds look horrible compared to the highly skilled and certified welders I've known over the years. In the business I was in, the large (up to 120" square) vacuum chambers are constructed of half-inch thick (or thicker) stainless steel plate. The welds required for vacuum integrity all have to be TIG welded to ensure 100 percent root penetration to eliminate any microscopic voids or cracks. You could hold liquids with no problem with these microscopic cracks because the molecules in the liquid are larger than the cracks ... therefore no leakage. But to many gases in the atmosphere the same crack looks like the Grand Canyon. We put "stiffeners" on the chambers to add the required wall strength to withstand a 14.7 psi pressure delta. A 60" square chamber under vacuum has about 26 tons of force per side trying to crush it like a tin can. Those welds were structural only and therefore could be MIG welded. Watching the quality of the "bead" that some of the welders could lay down over a long distance was amazing. Tedious work, but critical to the vacuum integrity of the chamber. TIG is the welder of choice for pontoon boats around here and that work is steady. A guy with a TIG on a truck can easily charge $100 an hour or more, usually with a 2 hour minimum. I do understand it is an art. The quality of the weld you can get makes it worth learning tho. I started with a stick welder and once I get in the groove I can lay down a decent bead. I usually have to practice for a while before I start on the real work because I don't really weld that often these days. If I am serious about it I put my rods in the oven at low heat for a while to get them dried out You can practice a lot of TIG technique with oxy/acet gas welding. Very similar, but TIG has better heat control. |
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KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 10:22 AM, wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:55:28 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: TIG welding is an art form to me. I learned to use both TIG and MIG welders, although my welds look horrible compared to the highly skilled and certified welders I've known over the years. A friend who's a metal artist and a good MIG/TIG welder told me that's what grinders are made for. :-) Good point, I will remember that. You want 2 angle grinders. 3 would be nice also. One with a flap wheel, and 1 with a cutoff or grinding wheel. Saves loads of time when welding saving on changing grinder stones or wire brush. Get a harbor freight grinder for one and a good grinder for the other. Use the HF grinder for the least used. |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:11 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/25/2013 9:27 PM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg Nice... spent the day with my girls, got a flux core, wire feed, welder so I guess it's time for me and Jess to learn a new art:) I have a little Lincoln 100a (used/free from a friend) but I still have not done a lot with it. I played with it a little and it crapped out. Something went wrong in the wire guide of the lead. I never took the time to get the wire free. I think that is why I ended up with it. I keep promising myself I am going to buy the MIG conversion kit that replaces all of that stuff along with a gas feed but I haven't seen the need yet. I still have my old stick box. I really want a TIG. I have the Lincoln 180c with a spool gun, so I also do aluminum. I do art welding as a hobby, and want both a TIG and a plasma cutter added to the arsenal. The Lincoln does both MIG and also flux core. Most of the steel I do is flux core, and use my old AIRCO stick welder for stainless and heavy steel. |
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents! Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too! Thanks I hope everyone had a great Christmas. The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy. The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a couple days. Watta country! 70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids left http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg We had Christmas in Naples, Long Beach, CA. Was 64 at 10 pm. Both daughters, and families, and older daughters mom and significant other. Took a walk after dinner through the Canals to look at the beautiful decorations. |
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KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote: Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies? Could of course Google, but if you got a quick explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens changes... The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a #5. That is more like a gas shade. What about a MiG wire feed? Or is that one of the ones you mentioned above? MIG is still in the 11-10 range. |
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On 12/26/2013 3:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 00:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/26/2013 12:25 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:33:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-) ====== There's some very decent horse country in and around Ft Myers, and it is also close to some very good boating. Summers are not a walk in the park but are bearable. Congestion is not even remotely close to what you see on the east coast. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Got any tips for my "negotiations"? So far they have seemed to stall. (horse reference) :-) === Negotiations? Wait for a really cold, windy blizzard and ask Mrs E where she would rather be at age 80. It worked for me. :-) Keeping the horses in a stall all winter has got to be bad for their psyche. I'd think that the idea of being able to ride 12 months a year would have some appeal. Our horses are outside 12 mos a year, and they get ridden 12 mos. too... You could ask her where she would rather ride in December though... that's legit... Florida wins every time. |
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On 12/26/2013 3:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
Keeping the horses in a stall all winter has got to be bad for their psyche. Absolutely... They need the security of being able to see the horizon or the tree line anyway, a place to run to, and leaders/followers... Our horse has another partner that she bosses around but they are buddies. When we had to remove our horse from the herd a week or so ago the other horse just stood at the gate all the time looking for her. The other horse escaped and went straight to our horse, even though our horse "beats her up" as it were... The horsed need herds, it's natural for them, makes them nice horses... |
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