Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote:


Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with
permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies?
Could of course Google, but if you got a quick
explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens
changes...

The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my
stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a
#5. That is more like a gas shade.



A number 5 permanent lens is too light for welding. It's for a cutting
torch or something.

Auto darkening lens have two numbers associated with them. The first is
the lens darkness with no welding going on. The second is the darkness
when triggered by exposure to the arc.

A number 5 auto darkening lens would allow you to still see through it
slightly when not welding but would then go to a higher number when
exposed to the arc.

Depending on the amps being drawn, you want at least a number 10
permanent lens or an auto darkening that goes to at least 10 for flux
core welding.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote:


Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with
permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies?
Could of course Google, but if you got a quick
explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens
changes...

The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my
stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a
#5. That is more like a gas shade.


What about a MiG wire feed? Or is that one of the ones you mentioned above?

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 11:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote:


Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with
permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies?
Could of course Google, but if you got a quick
explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens
changes...

The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my
stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a
#5. That is more like a gas shade.



A number 5 permanent lens is too light for welding. It's for a cutting
torch or something.

Auto darkening lens have two numbers associated with them. The first is
the lens darkness with no welding going on. The second is the darkness
when triggered by exposure to the arc.

A number 5 auto darkening lens would allow you to still see through it
slightly when not welding but would then go to a higher number when
exposed to the arc.

Depending on the amps being drawn, you want at least a number 10
permanent lens or an auto darkening that goes to at least 10 for flux
core welding.



Thanks, I thought it was weird that I could see inside the house with
the goggles I got from Santa:) Guess he isn't a welder... I will shoot
them back and get a Hobart Helmet or similar... with a 10 or higher lens.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 12:43 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote:


Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with
permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens
signifies?
Could of course Google, but if you got a quick
explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for
lens
changes...

The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my
stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a
#5. That is more like a gas shade.



A number 5 permanent lens is too light for welding. It's for a cutting
torch or something.

Auto darkening lens have two numbers associated with them. The first is
the lens darkness with no welding going on. The second is the darkness
when triggered by exposure to the arc.

A number 5 auto darkening lens would allow you to still see through it
slightly when not welding but would then go to a higher number when
exposed to the arc.

Depending on the amps being drawn, you want at least a number 10
permanent lens or an auto darkening that goes to at least 10 for flux
core welding.



Thanks, I thought it was weird that I could see inside the house with
the goggles I got from Santa:) Guess he isn't a welder... I will shoot
them back and get a Hobart Helmet or similar... with a 10 or higher lens.


At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed
me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small
plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together
along the edge where they met.

One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his
buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore
in frustration.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/13, 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed
me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small
plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together
along the edge where they met.

One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his
buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore
in frustration.



Well, you might have ended up with a battery of sorts.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 1:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/26/13, 1:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

At least you won't be learning from the practical joker who first showed
me how to TIG weld. He set up a small metal plate with another small
plate standing on edge on the first and told me to weld them together
along the edge where they met.

One plate was stainless steel. The other was aluminum. He and his
buddies stood back and laughed their asses off as I muttered and swore
in frustration.



Well, you might have ended up with a battery of sorts.


How's that?

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:40:48 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:
On 12/26/2013 11:22 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:14:14 -0500, KC wrote:





Thanks... I won't buy the HF one... Still, I have a hobart goggles with

permanent lens and it says #5... I am not sure what "#5" lens signifies?

Could of course Google, but if you got a quick

explanation/reccomendation, go with it? The hobarts I got allow for lens

changes...



The number is the shade. I prefer something in the 11-12 range for my

stick machine. I don't think I would do any kind of arc welding with a

#5. That is more like a gas shade.





What about a MiG wire feed? Or is that one of the ones you mentioned above?

MIG stands for Metal Inert Gas, and is a form of arc welding. The wire carries the current and is the filler, and the gas flowing from the gun shields the arc. The flux in flux core wire generates the gas when it burns instead of having to have a gas bottle and its associated regulator and plumbing.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/13, 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:20:39 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:27:38 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents!

Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace that comes with the season. Don't
forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks to get themselves a nice dinner
somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too!

Thanks
I hope everyone had a great Christmas.
The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and
engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy.
The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a
couple days.
Watta country!
70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids
left

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg

Our kids and grandkids are all coming later today. Open presents and then eat. I'm cheating, cooking
only spaghetti and garlic bread and salad (brought by daughter). Kids'll love it though.

We did the traditional Mexican food on Christmas eve, enchiladas,
tacos, refritos, rice with a chips and salsa appetizer.

I made spaghetti sauce last night.


I cooked a pair of rock cornish game hens. We split one and put the
other in the fridge. I like to salt and pepper and paprika them and put
on a glaze of apricot sauce before I bake them. Also made homemade
stuffing in a baking dish...stuffing mix, with sauteed peppers, onions
and mushrooms, plus the infamous green bean-mushroom soup-dried onions
casserole, and for dessert, homemade pumpkin pie.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On 12/26/2013 2:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/26/13, 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:20:39 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:27:38 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 05:11:56 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Leaving to go watch grandkids open presents!

Hope ALL of you have a super Christmas and find the joy and peace
that comes with the season. Don't
forget to give the Salvation Army collection man/lady a few bucks
to get themselves a nice dinner
somewhere. Oh, and put some money in the bucket too!

Thanks
I hope everyone had a great Christmas.
The kids were all here and we had lots of fun, ate too much and
engaged in the total commitment to stimulate the economy.
The wrapping paper alone would heat the house of a 3d worlder for a
couple days.
Watta country!
70s and sunny so we got out for an evening boat ride after the kids
left

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Christmas%20sunset%2013.jpg

Our kids and grandkids are all coming later today. Open presents and
then eat. I'm cheating, cooking
only spaghetti and garlic bread and salad (brought by daughter).
Kids'll love it though.

We did the traditional Mexican food on Christmas eve, enchiladas,
tacos, refritos, rice with a chips and salsa appetizer.

I made spaghetti sauce last night.


I cooked a pair of rock cornish game hens. We split one and put the
other in the fridge. I like to salt and pepper and paprika them and put
on a glaze of apricot sauce before I bake them. Also made homemade
stuffing in a baking dish...stuffing mix, with sauteed peppers, onions
and mushrooms, plus the infamous green bean-mushroom soup-dried onions
casserole, and for dessert, homemade pumpkin pie.


You couldn't eat both pigeons at one sitting?

--
Americans deserve better.

Merry Christmas All !!
 

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 00:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/26/2013 12:25 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:33:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

As you suggested, there are areas in central Florida that I liked (Ocala
and northward) because they are very similar to New England in terms of
topography. But, I would really like to be near the ocean and have
another boat, so that's where we stand in our "negotiations". :-)

======

There's some very decent horse country in and around Ft Myers, and it
is also close to some very good boating. Summers are not a walk in
the park but are bearable. Congestion is not even remotely close to
what you see on the east coast.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance.


Got any tips for my "negotiations"? So far they have seemed to stall.
(horse reference) :-)

===

Negotiations? Wait for a really cold, windy blizzard and ask Mrs E
where she would rather be at age 80. It worked for me. :-)

Keeping the horses in a stall all winter has got to be bad for their
psyche. I'd think that the idea of being able to ride 12 months a
year would have some appeal.