On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs). Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them. Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is
meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

On 12/24/13, 1:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops
and hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older
laptops had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports
(HPs). Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't
output the required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're
a PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More
frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to
them. Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is
meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My iMac, which is a few years old, has a CD/DVD burner drive, but I use
a much faster external one. My guess is that Apple removed the internal
burner because it wanted to make the display...thinner. I've read that,
and simply don't understand it, since the damned thing was already thin
and sits on a desktop.

Thunderbolt is Apple's new, faster port technology. The port can be used
for many devices and purposes. For about $12 you can buy a Thunderbolt
to HDMI connector. I use the Thunderbolt port on my MacBook Air to
attach a LAN connector cable.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/24/13, 1:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops
and hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older
laptops had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports
(HPs). Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't
output the required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're
a PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More
frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to
them. Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is
meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My iMac, which is a few years old, has a CD/DVD burner drive, but I
use a much faster external one. My guess is that Apple removed the
internal burner because it wanted to make the display...thinner. I've
read that, and simply don't understand it, since the damned thing was
already thin and sits on a desktop.

Thunderbolt is Apple's new, faster port technology. The port can be
used for many devices and purposes. For about $12 you can buy a
Thunderbolt to HDMI connector. I use the Thunderbolt port on my
MacBook Air to attach a LAN connector cable.

Could you still afford to buy your new computers if you paid all of your
taxes and debts or are WE subsidizing your toys?

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the
CD.

On 12/24/13, 3:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the
CD.


You back up your desktop to a CD? That must take a long time.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/24/13, 3:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the
required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the
CD.


You back up your desktop to a CD? That must take a long time.


Read for comprehension.

On 12/26/13, 11:40 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/24/13, 3:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the
required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the
CD.


You back up your desktop to a CD? That must take a long time.


Read for comprehension.


I did. To me it reads as if you use the Time Machine app to back up to a
CD. I back up my iMac locally to a server using SuperDuper! backup and
Time Machine, and also to a 1 GB hard drive wired on a high speed port
via Time Machine. I run the SuperDuper! backup nightly, the Time Machine
backup weekly, and when I remember, I also run a Time Machine backup to
my server. Once a week, I also backup my iMac data files to the "cloud."
I don't mine the cables, since I have a porthole in my desktop that
leads to a pathway to an underdesk cabinet with my server and other
wired backup gadgets and suchlike live. All but one of the backups are
automated.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 12/26/2013 11:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/26/13, 11:40 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/24/13, 3:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could
access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd
have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their
laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older
laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the
required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except...
we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More
frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to
them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other
than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is
meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new
iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something
called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running
around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk
and the
CD.


You back up your desktop to a CD? That must take a long time.


Read for comprehension.


I did. To me it reads as if you use the Time Machine app to back up to a
CD. I back up my iMac locally to a server using SuperDuper! backup and
Time Machine, and also to a 1 GB hard drive wired on a high speed port
via Time Machine. I run the SuperDuper! backup nightly, the Time Machine
backup weekly, and when I remember, I also run a Time Machine backup to
my server. Once a week, I also backup my iMac data files to the "cloud."
I don't mine the cables, since I have a porthole in my desktop that
leads to a pathway to an underdesk cabinet with my server and other
wired backup gadgets and suchlike live. All but one of the backups are
automated.


Too bad you don't have a porthole next to your office sink.

--
Americans deserve better.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/26/13, 11:40 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/24/13, 3:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/24/2013 9:48 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:38:09 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/24/2013 8:12 AM, Hank� wrote:


I was trying to set up network file sharing so I could transfer some

files from my PC laptop to the iMac. Finally got it so I could access

the PC files, but only the ones stored in the "Public" folder. If I

tried going anywhere else, the iMac stopped responding and I'd have to

do a "force quit". Still working on that one.



Place I work built a new building, and decided that there would be no
PCs in the conference rooms, instead folks would bring their laptops and
hookup to the flat panels via HDMI. Unfortunately, some older laptops
had just VGA, some had HDMI, and some just have display ports (HPs).
Now we need adapter cables, and some laptops just wouldn't output the
required resolution.

After a few weeks of wasted time and frustration, the decision was to
put Apple Mac Mini's in each conference room. Great, except... we're a
PC shop, with just a handful of people having Macs. More frustration and wasted time.

After having a chance now to use one, I don't see any positives to them.
Different, cool looking, but no better. Macs? Meh.


Yup. Like I mentioned before, the jury is still out in my mind. I'll
give it some more time and effort to see what the big deal is other than
maybe a social status thing about being a "Mac" person. That is meaningless to me.

Both of my PC laptops have HDMI outputs built into them. The new iMacs
don't. The have four USB ports, a headphone jack and something called a
"Thunderbolt" port that I have no clue what it would be used for.

The iMacs don't even have a CD/DVD disk drive nor a audio line input.
Like someone mentioned here, I am starting to get the feeling that an
iMac is nothing more than an expensive iPhone on steroids.

It *does* have a phenomenal display however.

My wife likes it as it is all self contained, and wires not running around
pretty much. But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the
CD.


You back up your desktop to a CD? That must take a long time.


Read for comprehension.


I did. To me it reads as if you use the Time Machine app to back up to a
CD. I back up my iMac locally to a server using SuperDuper! backup and
Time Machine, and also to a 1 GB hard drive wired on a high speed port
via Time Machine. I run the SuperDuper! backup nightly, the Time Machine
backup weekly, and when I remember, I also run a Time Machine backup to
my server. Once a week, I also backup my iMac data files to the "cloud."
I don't mine the cables, since I have a porthole in my desktop that leads
to a pathway to an underdesk cabinet with my server and other wired
backup gadgets and suchlike live. All but one of the backups are automated.


But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the CD.

Which part of 'and' is incomprehensible?

On 12/26/13, 4:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:


But you still have to plug int he time machine disk and the CD.

Which part of 'and' is incomprehensible?


I leave my iMac "plugged in," since I have no reason not to do so. I do
have a cable coming out of my router with an Apple cable on it to plug
into my Macbook Air, which I back up on a sporadic schedule to my server
via SuperDuper! and to a folder on my server via Time Machine.

Interestingly, at least to me, is that I've yet to come up with an
occasion where I needed to use a CD/DVD drive with the Macbook Air. I
keep a bunch of movies on it for travel via a little plug in solid state
drive, and I have a backup/OS installer on a USB drive. I suppose if I
needed to install something via a CD/DVD drive, I could share one of the
ones I have on the iMac. I just don't see a lot of use anymore for these
CD/DVD drives, but I am sure some people still do.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.