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On 12/17/2013 3:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:03 AM, KC wrote: On 12/16/2013 6:27 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:55:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:40:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players) Bull****. They are looking at a "collision" rule in baseball as we speak. Basketball has become very "physical" and soccer injuries among young players hurt more kids than football. You're speaking to a guy who hasn't watched sports in decades. He sure as hell hasn't watched basketball, which I believe is as dangerous as football. An elbow to the head in football isn't going to do much, but it's extremely common in basketball. And, it's hard for the refs to catch. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Way more injuries in football... legs, fingers, arms, teeth, turf toe even.... The discussion was about causing *intentional* injuries to another player. Still say more in football.... "intentional" as it's way easier to hide a good hit in football than basketball... |
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:19:15 -0500, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 3:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:03 AM, KC wrote: On 12/16/2013 6:27 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:55:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:40:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players) Bull****. They are looking at a "collision" rule in baseball as we speak. Basketball has become very "physical" and soccer injuries among young players hurt more kids than football. You're speaking to a guy who hasn't watched sports in decades. He sure as hell hasn't watched basketball, which I believe is as dangerous as football. An elbow to the head in football isn't going to do much, but it's extremely common in basketball. And, it's hard for the refs to catch. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Way more injuries in football... legs, fingers, arms, teeth, turf toe even.... The discussion was about causing *intentional* injuries to another player. Still say more in football.... "intentional" as it's way easier to hide a good hit in football than basketball... Well, the point is that they're both dangerous as far as intentional hits are concerned. Harry's comment that basketball and baseball don't have the intentional injury problem is bull****. But, that's OK. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 12/17/2013 7:29 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:19:15 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 3:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:03 AM, KC wrote: On 12/16/2013 6:27 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:55:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:40:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players) Bull****. They are looking at a "collision" rule in baseball as we speak. Basketball has become very "physical" and soccer injuries among young players hurt more kids than football. You're speaking to a guy who hasn't watched sports in decades. He sure as hell hasn't watched basketball, which I believe is as dangerous as football. An elbow to the head in football isn't going to do much, but it's extremely common in basketball. And, it's hard for the refs to catch. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Way more injuries in football... legs, fingers, arms, teeth, turf toe even.... The discussion was about causing *intentional* injuries to another player. Still say more in football.... "intentional" as it's way easier to hide a good hit in football than basketball... Well, the point is that they're both dangerous as far as intentional hits are concerned. Harry's comment that basketball and baseball don't have the intentional injury problem is bull****. But, that's OK. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Oh, you were talking about krause? Of course it's bull****... you really gotta' filter that guy ![]() |
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:48:37 -0500, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 7:29 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:19:15 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 3:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:03 AM, KC wrote: On 12/16/2013 6:27 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:55:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:40:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players) Bull****. They are looking at a "collision" rule in baseball as we speak. Basketball has become very "physical" and soccer injuries among young players hurt more kids than football. You're speaking to a guy who hasn't watched sports in decades. He sure as hell hasn't watched basketball, which I believe is as dangerous as football. An elbow to the head in football isn't going to do much, but it's extremely common in basketball. And, it's hard for the refs to catch. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Way more injuries in football... legs, fingers, arms, teeth, turf toe even.... The discussion was about causing *intentional* injuries to another player. Still say more in football.... "intentional" as it's way easier to hide a good hit in football than basketball... Well, the point is that they're both dangerous as far as intentional hits are concerned. Harry's comment that basketball and baseball don't have the intentional injury problem is bull****. But, that's OK. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Oh, you were talking about krause? Of course it's bull****... you really gotta' filter that guy ![]() His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H. wrote: His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player, coming in at 30 feet per second. Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what, three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game... I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball, tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc. Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 12/17/2013 11:44 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H. wrote: His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player, coming in at 30 feet per second. If those guys were bright enough to do as they were trained, they'd protect themselves form oncoming cleats. Besides, you do get a lot more deliberate than the play at home plate that comes once every few innings at best... In football you have pre-planned plays, designed to get as many huge men to hit one guy at once as possible... They know to "one hit high, one spin, one strip the ball by smashing the guy in the head as hard as possible".. This is every 3-7 seconds during any football game... There is not one player in the NFL that doesn't make each and every hit with the intent of putting someone out of the game... |
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