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John H.[_5_] December 17th 13 06:58 PM

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:26:23 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/17/13, 1:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/17/13, 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.




Gotta love rec.boats. How many NFL coaches are involved in the same game
as defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was?

You remember Williams, right? An NFL investigation showed that NO Saints
defensive players were being paid $1500 for taking an opposing player
out of a game.

The NFL claimed that at the time of the 2009 playoff game between New
Orleans and Minnesota, Saints captain Jonathan Vilma had a $10,000
reward for any player who hit Brett Favre hard enough so he had to leave
the game.

Your NFL heroes play dirty and take steroids, and it wouldn't be
surprising to learn that a good number of them play footsie with
professional gamblers.


Harry, there are over 1,700 active players in the NFL. How many do you
think are offered or accept bonuses to "take out" an opposing player?

Are there isolated cases of criminal like behavior? Yes, just like in
any business. Is it representative of the whole league? No way.

Just because you don't enjoy football or much of any popular sports
doesn't mean it's all bad. Just like all big businesses aren't bad.

You sure have a negative view on anything that doesn't appeal to you.




I don't give a damn about football one way or the other. I just think it
is so very American for so many Americans to "admire" pro and semi-pro
football athletes who are not prizefighters and whose sport is full of
intentional violence aimed at injuring opposing players. That and the
drugs and the gambling... Is there really any significant difference
between the NFL and the gladiator contests of ancient Rome?

You might find this interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/pvzn7ue


He should have been an English major - no drugs, no injuries, and, most importantly, no sex.

What a bitch!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John H.[_5_] December 17th 13 07:02 PM

WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
 
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:18:44 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game...


I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Well, when your grandkids get to playing football, ask them...


They've played for the past several years. None have been hurt. Now they're into lacrosse and/or
soccer. They've all decided they're not big enough for football. Size matters, but not in the
ability to hurt or maim - it's in the ability to block or rush.

Football is not nearly as 'dirty' as you and Harry are making it out to be, in my opinion.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John H.[_5_] December 17th 13 07:03 PM

WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
 
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.



Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk.


Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



KC December 17th 13 07:05 PM

WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
 
On 12/17/2013 1:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:20 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.



Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk.



My non-expert view makes a hell of a lot more sense than your comment:

"Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an
eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc....."

Snerk yourself.



You have something besides your view of the wide screen to base your
opinion on or a top secret inside like the Guitar maker issue:)?? Cause
I do.... But your opinion is as good as mine here, but then again, mine
is at least as good as yours....

KC December 17th 13 07:09 PM

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On 12/17/2013 2:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:18:44 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Well, when your grandkids get to playing football, ask them...


They've played for the past several years. None have been hurt. Now they're into lacrosse and/or
soccer. They've all decided they're not big enough for football. Size matters, but not in the
ability to hurt or maim - it's in the ability to block or rush.

Football is not nearly as 'dirty' as you and Harry are making it out to be, in my opinion.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Yeah, I guess cause there is definately no real incentive for College or
Pro Players in the game like LaCross with all the fame and fortune
associated with LaCross, or even a couple Soccer players at any given
time in history:) (yes, sarcasm) We agree to disagree...

KC December 17th 13 07:11 PM

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On 12/17/2013 2:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.



Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk.


Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Well, it's a comment on the way he summarily dismisses almost anything I
say. Something has changed in him in the last year, when he stops acting
like harry, I will stop dismissing him like harry...

Mr. Luddite December 17th 13 07:12 PM

WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
 
On 12/17/2013 2:05 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:20 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate.
The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much
when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it
off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.



Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk.



My non-expert view makes a hell of a lot more sense than your comment:

"Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an
eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc....."

Snerk yourself.



You have something besides your view of the wide screen to base your
opinion on or a top secret inside like the Guitar maker issue:)?? Cause
I do.... But your opinion is as good as mine here, but then again, mine
is at least as good as yours....



I am not sure what you are asking. If you are asking if I play pro
football, no, of course not.

If you are asking if I personally know any NFL players ... yes, it so
happens that I do through a mutual business interest.

I don't know what your "guitar maker issue" is referring to.



Mr. Luddite December 17th 13 07:17 PM

WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
 
On 12/17/2013 2:11 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 2:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence
are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate.
The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much
when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it
off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the
game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to
hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush
the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the
players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out
to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to
them. (Paybacks are a bitch).

There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.
This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow
to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play
is just that .... bull****.



Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk.


Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Well, it's a comment on the way he summarily dismisses almost anything I
say. Something has changed in him in the last year, when he stops acting
like harry, I will stop dismissing him like harry...



Your "filter" seems to have many holes in it.




[email protected] December 17th 13 07:42 PM

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On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:15:39 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2013 12:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 12/17/13, 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:


On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:




On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:


On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.


wrote:






His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence


are not common in baseball or


basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."




You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The


whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the


ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just


protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,


coming in at 30 feet per second.






Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the


ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the


line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,


twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when


you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off


while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,


three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and


every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the


game...




I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to


hurt someone, but I believe


most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush


the quarterback, run the ball,


tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.




Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.




John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!








Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the


players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out


to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to


them. (Paybacks are a bitch).




There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority.


This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow


to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play


is just that .... bull****.










Gotta love rec.boats. How many NFL coaches are involved in the same game


as defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was?




You remember Williams, right? An NFL investigation showed that NO Saints


defensive players were being paid $1500 for taking an opposing player


out of a game.




The NFL claimed that at the time of the 2009 playoff game between New


Orleans and Minnesota, Saints captain Jonathan Vilma had a $10,000


reward for any player who hit Brett Favre hard enough so he had to leave


the game.




Your NFL heroes play dirty and take steroids, and it wouldn't be


surprising to learn that a good number of them play footsie with


professional gamblers.






Harry, there are over 1,700 active players in the NFL. How many do you

think are offered or accept bonuses to "take out" an opposing player?



Are there isolated cases of criminal like behavior? Yes, just like in

any business. Is it representative of the whole league? No way.



Just because you don't enjoy football or much of any popular sports

doesn't mean it's all bad. Just like all big businesses aren't bad.



You sure have a negative view on anything that doesn't appeal to you.


Of course the fact that there was some corruption in the NFL means the entire league is dirty.

Same goes for the unions. The fact that there has been union corruption means the entire system is dirty, right?

Gotta hate how that "logic" plays out. :-)

John H.[_5_] December 17th 13 09:49 PM

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:09:59 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 2:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:18:44 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or
basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)."

You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The
whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the
ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just
protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player,
coming in at 30 feet per second.


Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the
ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the
line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney,
twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when
you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off
while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what,
three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and
every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game...

I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe
most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball,
tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc.

Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Well, when your grandkids get to playing football, ask them...


They've played for the past several years. None have been hurt. Now they're into lacrosse and/or
soccer. They've all decided they're not big enough for football. Size matters, but not in the
ability to hurt or maim - it's in the ability to block or rush.

Football is not nearly as 'dirty' as you and Harry are making it out to be, in my opinion.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Yeah, I guess cause there is definately no real incentive for College or
Pro Players in the game like LaCross with all the fame and fortune
associated with LaCross, or even a couple Soccer players at any given
time in history:) (yes, sarcasm) We agree to disagree...


Fair enough! And I won't even try to be sarcastic.

However, I don't understand your sentence. Maybe you were just typing real fast.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




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