On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:48:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



snip...



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



snip...



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.



I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell
of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on
the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do
understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree
with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe
the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,
and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a
negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and
saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the
recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are
part of the Protestant sects.

Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and
rules onto others who believe differently.

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby
bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in
charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than
what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal
instincts rule.

--
Americans deserve better.

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote:

On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby
bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in
charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than
what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal
instincts rule.

I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control
because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I
believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in
many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of
the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:50:49 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote:

On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby
bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in
charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than
what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal
instincts rule.

I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control
because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I
believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in
many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of
the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Looking a little further, I may be laying too much at the feet of the Church.

"The proportion of births to unmarried women has increased without interruption from 1997 through
2009. In 2009, 41.0 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2
percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 87 percent of births to
teenagers and 62 percent of births to women aged 20–24 were nonmarital. One in five births to women
aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among
population subgroups. In 2009, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for
non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 65 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic
black births."
(http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf) (page 8)

41.0% of all births to unmarried women! Holy ****. and 73% for non-Hispanic black births. No wonder
Bill Cosby is ****ed at so many of his race.

However, those statistics are from the USA, which has one of the lower fertility rates. In looking
at religions and fertility rates, this would indicate Muslims have the highest fertility rates (at
least in the US ten years ago), but they're followed closely by Hispanic Catholics.

http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biolog...he-us-gss-data

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 12/14/2013 1:29 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:50:49 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote:

On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby
bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in
charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than
what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal
instincts rule.

I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control
because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I
believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in
many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of
the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Looking a little further, I may be laying too much at the feet of the Church.

"The proportion of births to unmarried women has increased without interruption from 1997 through
2009. In 2009, 41.0 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2
percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 87 percent of births to
teenagers and 62 percent of births to women aged 20–24 were nonmarital. One in five births to women
aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among
population subgroups. In 2009, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for
non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 65 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic
black births."
(http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf) (page 8)

41.0% of all births to unmarried women! Holy ****. and 73% for non-Hispanic black births. No wonder
Bill Cosby is ****ed at so many of his race.

However, those statistics are from the USA, which has one of the lower fertility rates. In looking
at religions and fertility rates, this would indicate Muslims have the highest fertility rates (at
least in the US ten years ago), but they're followed closely by Hispanic Catholics.

http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biolog...he-us-gss-data

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


You owe the Pope an apology, doncha think? ;-)

--
Americans deserve better.