On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 02:23:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.

The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.

They are even talking about phony "charging stations" that will dump
your mobile device while you think you are just getting a free charge.



If you want to learn more about this, here's a link that will get you
started. The link was huge, so I made a TinyURL:

http://tinyurl.com/kr2rtp2

Sounds like someone is letting 'conspiracy theories' get into his head. But, Greg makes a good
point.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 11/22/2013 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 02:23:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.

The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.

They are even talking about phony "charging stations" that will dump
your mobile device while you think you are just getting a free charge.



If you want to learn more about this, here's a link that will get you
started. The link was huge, so I made a TinyURL:

http://tinyurl.com/kr2rtp2


The big flaw in this for me is your guests need to be Comcast
customers. I do see why they are doing it tho.

Comcast is so bad here, I don't really know many people who have it.
My wife has it at work, simply because they do cable for the
neighborhood. They are seriously looking for another data service. The
TVs in the club house are already on Direct TV, mostly for the sports
package. I think the data in the clubhouse is free right now because
they don't want to use the business and they have DSL knocking on the
door.





Until very recently Comcast up here was getting terrible as well, both
in cable TV and Internet service. Lots of outages on the Internet
connection and weak or no signals for cable TV on many channels.

Then they did the upgrades. The Comcast tech who came to the house told
me that Comcast is slowly upgrading their entire system, nationwide and
also the provided gear to customers. Eventually everyone will be
upgraded to the type of gear he installed at our house.

Since then, the services have been excellent. Faster and stable
Internet and much improved HD TV signal. So, maybe there's hope in the
future down there.

On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.

The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.

They are even talking about phony "charging stations" that will dump
your mobile device while you think you are just getting a free charge.


Watch out Greg.... Dick will get on his stump and start calling you
names now. Oh wait, you are in the right social economic class, so you
will probably be just fine... nevermind... I have a sneaking suspicion
he doesn't play well with lower middle class

On Friday, 22 November 2013 07:15:59 UTC-4, KC wrote:

Watch out Greg.... Dick will get on his stump and start calling you

names now. Oh wait, you are in the right social economic class, so you

will probably be just fine... nevermind... I have a sneaking suspicion

he doesn't play well with lower middle class


Wow.. what a little drama queen you are!
You are as regular as a woman's monthly cycle. We see you back in your 'poor little me... everyone's picking on me' phase.
Someone should test you to see if your estrogen levels are higher than your testosterone levels.
~~SNERK~~

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Spoof.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 11/24/2013 3:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Their plan is that you are still paying for that hot spot by being a
comcast data customer. They want a monopoly in data sales


I am not defending Comcast, but I recall years ago that the future
promise of Internet access was to have WiFi access accessible virtually
anywhere in the country. If each Internet access provider does
something similar to this, that may become a reality. Otherwise, some
DC Congress member will decide it would be a wonderful Federal project
to take on, using taxpayers' money, farming out the software development
to CGI Federal.

On 11/24/13, 4:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 3:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving
range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV
and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests
and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have
Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes
you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email
address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty
cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Their plan is that you are still paying for that hot spot by being a
comcast data customer. They want a monopoly in data sales


I am not defending Comcast, but I recall years ago that the future
promise of Internet access was to have WiFi access accessible virtually
anywhere in the country. If each Internet access provider does
something similar to this, that may become a reality. Otherwise, some
DC Congress member will decide it would be a wonderful Federal project
to take on, using taxpayers' money, farming out the software development
to CGI Federal.




Government regulation in Europe gives citizens there high speed
broadband TV, internet and telephone for between $50 and $100 a month,
less than half of what similar service in this country costs.

As usual, we're being ripped off by corporations.

There are many cites about this. Here is one you might find interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/3s2hub6

There are also companies offering wifi on a month to month basis for $10
to $15 a month and there are plenty of free wifi hotspots.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/24/2013 4:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 4:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 3:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving
range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a
lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV
and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests
and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have
Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes
you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email
address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty
cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Their plan is that you are still paying for that hot spot by being a
comcast data customer. They want a monopoly in data sales


I am not defending Comcast, but I recall years ago that the future
promise of Internet access was to have WiFi access accessible virtually
anywhere in the country. If each Internet access provider does
something similar to this, that may become a reality. Otherwise, some
DC Congress member will decide it would be a wonderful Federal project
to take on, using taxpayers' money, farming out the software development
to CGI Federal.




Government regulation in Europe gives citizens there high speed
broadband TV, internet and telephone for between $50 and $100 a month,
less than half of what similar service in this country costs.

As usual, we're being ripped off by corporations.

There are many cites about this. Here is one you might find interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/3s2hub6

There are also companies offering wifi on a month to month basis for $10
to $15 a month and there are plenty of free wifi hotspots.



I am all for competition between the Internet service/media delivery
companies. The technology benefits and it keeps costs under control. I
think that's what is missing in many American industries today. Too
little competition and too many government bailouts.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/24/2013 4:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 4:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 3:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving
range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a
lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV
and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests
and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have
Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes
you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email
address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty
cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Their plan is that you are still paying for that hot spot by being a
comcast data customer. They want a monopoly in data sales


I am not defending Comcast, but I recall years ago that the future
promise of Internet access was to have WiFi access accessible virtually
anywhere in the country. If each Internet access provider does
something similar to this, that may become a reality. Otherwise, some
DC Congress member will decide it would be a wonderful Federal project
to take on, using taxpayers' money, farming out the software development
to CGI Federal.




Government regulation in Europe gives citizens there high speed
broadband TV, internet and telephone for between $50 and $100 a month,
less than half of what similar service in this country costs.

As usual, we're being ripped off by corporations.

There are many cites about this. Here is one you might find interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/3s2hub6

There are also companies offering wifi on a month to month basis for $10
to $15 a month and there are plenty of free wifi hotspots.



I am all for competition between the Internet service/media delivery
companies. The technology benefits and it keeps costs under control. I
think that's what is missing in many American industries today. Too
little competition and too many government bailouts.

The cable companies all have government mandated monopolies. With no
government over site of what the monopoly charges.

On 11/24/2013 4:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 3:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:59:45 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.

It's designed to allow guests, visitors or anyone within receiving
range
of the signal to access the Internet and email virtually anywhere as
long as you are a Comcast customer. It means that once they upgrade
everyone, you could drive down the street and access the Internet
anywhere there is a home WiFi system provided by Comcast. That's a lot
of free "hot spots" in our area since Comcast dominates the cable TV
and
Internet market in our area.

In our case nobody driving on the road will benefit from our house
because we are too far from the road for them to get the signal. But
in most areas with houses close to the road, you should be able to
access the internet everywhere. It can also be used by house guests
and
visitors as long as they have a Comcast account.

When you first connect to it, it doesn't indicate that you have
Internet
access. Says "local only". But, if you open a browser, it takes
you to
a Comcast page where you enter your user name (or Comcast email
address)
and your password. You only have to do this once per device. Once
you've done that, you have full access to the Internet.

You can also request that this capability be disabled on your
modem/router if you don't want it. Personally, I think it's pretty
cool
and a clever way to make Internet access available to Comcast account
holders almost everywhere.

Funny, not too long ago it was a big deal to be "stealing" someone
else's WiFi connection. Now they are encouraging it.





Sounds like socialism, to me.
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Their plan is that you are still paying for that hot spot by being a
comcast data customer. They want a monopoly in data sales


I am not defending Comcast, but I recall years ago that the future
promise of Internet access was to have WiFi access accessible virtually
anywhere in the country. If each Internet access provider does
something similar to this, that may become a reality. Otherwise, some
DC Congress member will decide it would be a wonderful Federal project
to take on, using taxpayers' money, farming out the software development
to CGI Federal.




Ha, I remember when cable companies promised us the fees would pay for
the cable, and we would say goodbye to commercials