On 11/23/13, 12:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2013 12:31 PM, BAR wrote:


Why would you want to expose your internet connection to anyone and
everyone within range.
When the government comes to you and says where were you doing illegal
operations from your
internet connection what are you going to say?



Forgot to mention in my previous reply:

In our particular case, there's another reason I am not concerned about
this feature.

Our house is way too far from the road (950 feet) for anyone just
passing by to receive the signal. The closest neighbor has Verizon Fios
as a Internet service, and they are too far away from our house to get a
usable signal from our router. Even if they managed to get the signal,
they wouldn't be able to connect because they don't have a Comcast account.

Our primary network in the house was "unsecured" for years because there
isn't anybody else close enough to use it. It's secured now by default
with the new modem/router which requires it to be WPS2 secured.



And of course you are not "doing illegal operations from your internet
connection."

I wonder what the actual range is for the "outside" wi-fi connection.
Traditional wi-fi typically is good within a reasonably sized house and
maybe out on the porch or patio and maybe out onto a street 100' away.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/23/2013 1:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/23/13, 12:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2013 12:31 PM, BAR wrote:


Why would you want to expose your internet connection to anyone and
everyone within range.
When the government comes to you and says where were you doing illegal
operations from your
internet connection what are you going to say?



Forgot to mention in my previous reply:

In our particular case, there's another reason I am not concerned about
this feature.

Our house is way too far from the road (950 feet) for anyone just
passing by to receive the signal. The closest neighbor has Verizon Fios
as a Internet service, and they are too far away from our house to get a
usable signal from our router. Even if they managed to get the signal,
they wouldn't be able to connect because they don't have a Comcast
account.

Our primary network in the house was "unsecured" for years because there
isn't anybody else close enough to use it. It's secured now by default
with the new modem/router which requires it to be WPS2 secured.



And of course you are not "doing illegal operations from your internet
connection."

I wonder what the actual range is for the "outside" wi-fi connection.
Traditional wi-fi typically is good within a reasonably sized house and
maybe out on the porch or patio and maybe out onto a street 100' away.


100' or so seems about right. My wife and I have our computers (and she
with her iPhone, iPad and who knows what else) sorta on one side of the
house, so the wifi router covers that side pretty well. I put the
extender in a room on the other side of the house and it transmits
nicely to the man shed I recently built out in the woods beside the house.

On 11/23/2013 1:29 PM, wrote:


There are several sites on the net that will show you how to make
antennas from anything ranging from old DSS dishes to a Pringles can.

There are plenty of commercial solutions, aimed at places like
campgrounds or building owners that provide hot spots.



Before I bought the extender and before all the recent upgrades, I was
looking at some of those home-brew directional "dishes" for wireless
routers and was going to try to make one. The new style router/modem
does not have an external antenna though, so I wouldn't know where to
place it.

The new, D-3.0 routers with the two channel capability look like this:

http://media2.comcast.net/anon.comcastonline2/support/help/faqs/wireless_gateway/image004.jpg

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.

On 11/21/13, 5:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.



We have some Comcast hotspots around here, but I've never tried to use
any. Panera and a couple of other lunch spots have free wifi. If I am in
the car and need to check email, I just use the 4G data signal.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?



Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them

On 11/21/13, 6:25 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?



Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them


You're the only one on your block being tracked, but it's not by the NSA.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Thursday, 21 November 2013 19:26:46 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 6:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:





Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have

to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is

provided by

them for it to work.



What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive

another

independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer

available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and

doesn't

interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow

anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your

existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or

anything you have set up on your network.

I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in

front of the router I already had.

Both are secured tho.



I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned

off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi







The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the

primary reason for this new feature.



Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They

have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost

double that with cable TV service.



By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel

capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new

"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.





If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.

What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from

getting in?

I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...

yours?







Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them





You're the only one on your block being tracked, but it's not by the NSA.



Hopefully, it's by the South Windsor Police Dept.

On 11/21/2013 6:25 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?



Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them


You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:25 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You
have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US. They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?



Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them


You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.

Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...