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Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 06:56 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/21/2013 11:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

You then open whatever browser you use. It will automatically open to a
Comcast Xfinity website page used for this system.

You enter your Comcast email address and your Comcast account password.


OK, it makes sense now.
I will have to tell my wife about this. She has a comcast account from
work. I suppose I could get one too if I wanted one. I already have a
Comcast Email address but I think it is deactivated (or I just forgot
the password) Email sent to it does not bounce tho.
Maybe I will try a password reset with one of their customer numbers.

I guess they track back to you from your reverse DNS.



I'd check first to see if it's available in your area. It's a really
new feature and is not available everywhere yet. The Comcast guy told
me we are in one of the first areas of the country that it is being set
up and it was virtually only one day old as of yesterday. It somewhat
explains why the other 7 people I talked to at Comcast had never heard
of it.

As far as transmitting the second WiFi channel, it can only be done with
Comcast provided modem/routers. If you bought and installed one from
Best Buy or anywhere else, it won't transmit the second channel.





Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 07:02 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/21/2013 11:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:25 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You
have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US.
They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with
almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?




Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them:)



You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.




Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...




Ok. I did. I think you are a paranoid nutcase.

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 07:10 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 12:14 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:41:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.


Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...


At a certain point you simply have to understand your electronic
signature tracks you everywhere you go and the NSA is not even the
most curious about querying that data. Have you noticed that if you
mention something on a BB, you start getting ads about where to buy
one? That is just one use of what people know.

The only way to really hide is to live off the grid, use cash, stay
off the internet and never carry any kind mobile device, including
toll transponders. Best if you don't even have a car.

Basically, be a homeless person who avoids public assistance and stays
out of cop trouble.



No kidding. If you use a credit or debit card anywhere, they provide a
means of instantly tracking your whereabouts, let alone GPS enabled cell
phones and other electronic devices. You can't go through life worrying
about crap like that. Scott just weaves it all into his bizarre
government conspiracy theories that he both loves and hates at the same
time.

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 07:19 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.


The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.


I don't know. I've described everything I know about it so far.
I don't see how it's any different than the "free" WiFi connections that
many public places have now except you have to have a Comcast account to
access it.

I am not going to worry about it though. You don't *have* to use it and
if your home router is transmitting the second channel you can call
Comcast and have it disabled if you desire.




Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 07:23 AM

New Comcast feature (for Greg)
 
On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.


The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.

They are even talking about phony "charging stations" that will dump
your mobile device while you think you are just getting a free charge.



If you want to learn more about this, here's a link that will get you
started. The link was huge, so I made a TinyURL:

http://tinyurl.com/kr2rtp2



KC November 22nd 13 11:10 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 12:14 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:41:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.


Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...


At a certain point you simply have to understand your electronic
signature tracks you everywhere you go and the NSA is not even the
most curious about querying that data. Have you noticed that if you
mention something on a BB, you start getting ads about where to buy
one? That is just one use of what people know.

The only way to really hide is to live off the grid, use cash, stay
off the internet and never carry any kind mobile device, including
toll transponders. Best if you don't even have a car.

Basically, be a homeless person who avoids public assistance and stays
out of cop trouble.


So, you don't think the NSA is interested in that info at all? Come on...

KC November 22nd 13 11:12 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 2:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 12:14 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:41:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.

Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...


At a certain point you simply have to understand your electronic
signature tracks you everywhere you go and the NSA is not even the
most curious about querying that data. Have you noticed that if you
mention something on a BB, you start getting ads about where to buy
one? That is just one use of what people know.

The only way to really hide is to live off the grid, use cash, stay
off the internet and never carry any kind mobile device, including
toll transponders. Best if you don't even have a car.

Basically, be a homeless person who avoids public assistance and stays
out of cop trouble.



No kidding. If you use a credit or debit card anywhere, they provide a
means of instantly tracking your whereabouts, let alone GPS enabled cell
phones and other electronic devices. You can't go through life worrying
about crap like that. Scott just weaves it all into his bizarre
government conspiracy theories that he both loves and hates at the same
time.


Never said I "went through life worrying about it"... That's your
harryism... I simply said, they will collect the info, you call names
and accuse...... anything but answer the question. But if that makes you
feel better... well....

KC November 22nd 13 11:13 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 2:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 11:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/21/2013 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:25 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 6:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:45:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:26 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Comcast just enabled a new feature on our home wifi system. You
have
to have the new, updated equipment and modem/router that is
provided by
them for it to work.

What they do is enable your wifi router to transmit and receive
another
independent signal. It shows up as "XFINITYWiFi" on your computer
available networks list, iPad or cell phone. It is unsecured and
doesn't
interfere with your existing, secured connection, nor does it slow
anything down. Anyone signed onto it is *not* connected to your
existing, secured network, so they can't access any file sharing or
anything you have set up on your network.
I have that at my house, simply by putting the DSL wifi router in
front of the router I already had.
Both are secured tho.

I really don't use WiFi on my home network so I have the WiFi turned
off on that router and guests go directly to the DSL WiFi



The "guest/visitor" use feature is nice, but it's obviously not the
primary reason for this new feature.

Comcast is the largest cable/Internet service provider in the US.
They
have about 15 million Internet service customers nationwide with
almost
double that with cable TV service.

By using their customer based WiFi modem/router with the dual channel
capability, they are basically establishing up to 15 million new
"hotspots" for Comcast Internet customers.


If this is an unsecured WiFi they are not creating any customers.
What keeps the neighbors or anyone war driving down the road from
getting in?
I would be a little worried about which IP this comes back to ...
yours?




Wonder how much the NSA is paying them to track everybody for them:)



You need a new tin hat. Yours is getting porous.




Listen Dick... We already know they are paying ATT and others for
"logistics", why would you think this more complete map of every ones
traveles would not be a great prize for them? Seriously, do you think
the NSA hasn't looked at the possibility of watching folks move through
areas via tracking them???

I know it gave you a good excuse to dismiss and bully me, but really,
think about the question, then get back with me...




Ok. I did. I think you are a paranoid nutcase.


Wow, so you won't address any of it because it makes you feel better
about yourself to just call names? I get it...

KC November 22nd 13 11:15 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.


The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.

They are even talking about phony "charging stations" that will dump
your mobile device while you think you are just getting a free charge.


Watch out Greg.... Dick will get on his stump and start calling you
names now. Oh wait, you are in the right social economic class, so you
will probably be just fine... nevermind... I have a sneaking suspicion
he doesn't play well with lower middle class:)

KC November 22nd 13 11:16 AM

New Comcast feature
 
On 11/22/2013 2:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If your device (computer, smart phone, iPad or whatever) detects a
"XFINITYWiFi" signal as an available network, you connect to it.


The more I think about this the scarier it gets.
What happens when that "XFINITYWiFi" router you see is a spoofer, they
play you like a real Xfinity site, get your password and along the way
they also dump your device to their machine.

I hope there is more security than you have described.


I don't know. I've described everything I know about it so far.
I don't see how it's any different than the "free" WiFi connections that
many public places have now except you have to have a Comcast account to
access it.

I am not going to worry about it though. You don't *have* to use it and
if your home router is transmitting the second channel you can call
Comcast and have it disabled if you desire.




What no names, no curtain climbing??? No waving??????


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