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Mr. Luddite November 21st 13 08:18 PM

Nuclear Option
 

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.





F.O.A.D. November 21st 13 08:24 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/13, 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.




Watching Mitch McConnell lie and whine about it was priceless.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

F.O.A.D. November 21st 13 08:38 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/13, 3:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.




Watching Mitch McConnell lie and whine about it was priceless.



McConnell was for the nuclear option before he was against it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpeklsK6oA

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Mr. Luddite November 21st 13 08:59 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/2013 3:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 3:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.




Watching Mitch McConnell lie and whine about it was priceless.



McConnell was for the nuclear option before he was against it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpeklsK6oA



Well, of course. It all depends on who controls the Senate and which
side is using the filibuster to hold up appointments. The Dems are
just as guilty as the Republicans, although the Republicans have made
more use of the filibuster of late.



KC November 21st 13 10:34 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/2013 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.





I would say dumb move.. but the republicans probably won't even
retaliate when they beat the **** out of dems in 14... The dems will cry
and promise never to do it again, and the repubs will cave and let it go....

KC November 21st 13 10:35 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/2013 5:02 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:18:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.




This is going to cost them.


Only if the republicans get a nut and retaliate and stack positions
after 2014... but they won't.

F.O.A.D. November 21st 13 10:42 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/13, 5:34 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/21/2013 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.





I would say dumb move.. but the republicans probably won't even
retaliate when they beat the **** out of dems in 14... The dems will cry
and promise never to do it again, and the repubs will cave and let it
go....



PsychoSnotty is predicting the Republicans will take the Senate in 2014.
Not likely. You can't **** off as many groups as the GOP has and win.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Tim November 22nd 13 01:27 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?

Hank©[_3_] November 22nd 13 01:31 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It's obvious that Harry's battery is running low.

--
Americans deserve better.

John H[_2_] November 22nd 13 01:40 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:27:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


I've been trying to get him to switch to Elmers Glue All, 'cause that stuff he's sniffing now is
doing strange things to his head.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 02:18 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Wayne.B November 22nd 13 02:28 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:33:24 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,
hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)


===

You forgot the dead beat, tax cheat, sociopath, Marxists. :-)

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 02:39 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 02:44 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



Republican governors and state legislatures in dozens of states are
messing with voting access, and that messing will prevent many legit
voters from voting. And of course, Repubs are curtailing access of women
to abortion. And won't move on immigration reform. You think there isn't
a plan there?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

KC November 22nd 13 02:52 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 03:08 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 9:52 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure
blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?



I *am* a Dick. You, on the other hand, are Connecticut's version of
Ernest T. Bass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass

KC November 22nd 13 03:10 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 10:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:52 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure
blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?



I *am* a Dick. You, on the other hand, are Connecticut's version of
Ernest T. Bass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass


Do you see yourself as clever? Do you enjoy mocking and dismissing those
who don't kiss the ring? You are getting more and more out there as time
goes on, you should really see somebody...

F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 03:15 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 10:10 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 10:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:52 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure
blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?

In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?



Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?



I *am* a Dick. You, on the other hand, are Connecticut's version of
Ernest T. Bass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass


Do you see yourself as clever? Do you enjoy mocking and dismissing those
who don't kiss the ring? You are getting more and more out there as time
goes on, you should really see somebody...



"Dick" is quite clever. You, however, are a dunce. Further, while "Dick"
is opinionated, he is hardly "out there" mentally or emotionally. You,
however, are a psychotic, and if you were given a brief psych exam and
answered honestly, you'd be committed for a spell.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

True North[_2_] November 22nd 13 03:29 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On Friday, 22 November 2013 11:08:17 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:52 AM, KC wrote:

On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:


On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:






That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure


blacks,




hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)








Harry, is that really how you think?






It is what is happening, Tim.








Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?




In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?








Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?






I *am* a Dick. You, on the other hand, are Connecticut's version of

Ernest T. Bass.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass



Hey, that's a pretty darn good likeness.

F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 03:36 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 10:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 22 November 2013 11:08:17 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:52 AM, KC wrote:

On 11/22/2013 9:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 11/22/2013 9:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:


On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:






That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure


blacks,




hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)








Harry, is that really how you think?






It is what is happening, Tim.








Do you realize you sound just like a "lefty" version of Scott?




In the market for a used, slightly porous tin hat?








Do you realize we all know, you are just being a "dick"?






I *am* a Dick. You, on the other hand, are Connecticut's version of

Ernest T. Bass.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass



Hey, that's a pretty darn good likeness.


PsychoSnotty goes courting at the campsite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJUmIuc1X5s

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 04:32 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 11:29 AM, KC wrote:


Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..



Do the insane posts you poop out here make you feel better about yourself?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 04:43 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 11:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, KC wrote:



Wow, what a hero.. I know people like you too, but I won't spend three
paragraph trying to sound clever and aloof...


Based on your posts here, I doubt you could put three coherent
paragraphs together period.

Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..



Are you referring to your derogatory comment about me or my derogatory
comment about you in response? I can play this childish game too. It's
a cold, rainy day and I have nothing else to do at the moment.






Crikey, if you are that bored, you could drive down here. I've got some
drywall joints that need sanding and after that, painting. We could
watch the paint dry.



Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping. Don't have the patience for it. Painting is equally boring.



F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 04:46 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 11:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, KC wrote:



Wow, what a hero.. I know people like you too, but I won't spend
three
paragraph trying to sound clever and aloof...


Based on your posts here, I doubt you could put three coherent
paragraphs together period.

Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..


Are you referring to your derogatory comment about me or my derogatory
comment about you in response? I can play this childish game too. It's
a cold, rainy day and I have nothing else to do at the moment.






Crikey, if you are that bored, you could drive down here. I've got some
drywall joints that need sanding and after that, painting. We could
watch the paint dry.



Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping. Don't have the patience for it. Painting is equally boring.



Well, I do have a bathroom ceiling exhaust fan that isn't working...
dunno yet whether it is the switch, the wiring or the fan...

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Mr. Luddite November 22nd 13 04:47 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 11:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, KC wrote:



Wow, what a hero.. I know people like you too, but I won't spend
three
paragraph trying to sound clever and aloof...


Based on your posts here, I doubt you could put three coherent
paragraphs together period.

Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..


Are you referring to your derogatory comment about me or my derogatory
comment about you in response? I can play this childish game too.
It's
a cold, rainy day and I have nothing else to do at the moment.






Crikey, if you are that bored, you could drive down here. I've got some
drywall joints that need sanding and after that, painting. We could
watch the paint dry.



Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping. Don't have the patience for it. Painting is equally boring.



Well, I do have a bathroom ceiling exhaust fan that isn't working...
dunno yet whether it is the switch, the wiring or the fan...


Sorry. My union card expired.

:-)




F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 04:57 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 11:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 11:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, KC wrote:


Wow, what a hero.. I know people like you too, but I won't spend
three
paragraph trying to sound clever and aloof...


Based on your posts here, I doubt you could put three coherent
paragraphs together period.

Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..


Are you referring to your derogatory comment about me or my derogatory
comment about you in response? I can play this childish game too.
It's
a cold, rainy day and I have nothing else to do at the moment.






Crikey, if you are that bored, you could drive down here. I've got some
drywall joints that need sanding and after that, painting. We could
watch the paint dry.



Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping. Don't have the patience for it. Painting is equally boring.



Well, I do have a bathroom ceiling exhaust fan that isn't working...
dunno yet whether it is the switch, the wiring or the fan...


Sorry. My union card expired.

:-)




No lunch for you at Jerry's:

http://www.jerrys-place.com/Our_Menu.htm

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Califbill November 22nd 13 06:16 PM

Nuclear Option
 
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:33:24 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That's right. The Republicans are working overtime to make sure blacks,

hispanics, women, students, non-white elderly can't vote. :)



Harry, is that really how you think?


It is what is happening, Tim.



Harry, sounds like you are a post Civil War Democrat reconstructionist.

F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 06:28 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 1:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:43:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping.


Pay someone. It will come out better and happen faster.


Drywall is up and plastered. I'll sand it tonight or tomorrow, and then
paint it. Came out pretty darned decent considering who did the work. :)


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Califbill November 22nd 13 06:48 PM

Nuclear Option
 
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:43:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Two of my least favorite jobs. I suck at drywall plastering and
prepping.


Pay someone. It will come out better and happen faster.


I paint, but dislike it. Been that way since I was a young kid, helping
mom paint the house. She liked painting. Have a couple spots I need to
touch up, been putting it off for a week now, moved curtain brackets for
the wife, so have to sparkle the holes and repaint the area.

KC November 22nd 13 07:28 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 12:44 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/22/2013 11:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, KC wrote:



Did that post make you feel better about yourself? Seriously dick, go
talk to your wife or something..



Are you referring to your derogatory comment about me or my derogatory
comment about you in response? I can play this childish game too. It's
a cold, rainy day and I have nothing else to do at the moment.



Sure then... why not start by answering the question you dodged earlier.
Do you think, knowing the NSA and other Admin orgs have tapped the IRS,
ATT and others for "logistics" and other personal information, that the
NSA isn't looking at the tracking possibilities of being able to follow
Americans as they travel down the road?



First of all, I am not under any obligation to answer *any* of your
goofy questions.


Of course you are right.. And many of my "goofy" questions and theories
are shared by several others here, long after you have started calling
names.... I keep forgetting why you are here... sorry again:)


F.O.A.D. November 22nd 13 08:03 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:46:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Well, I do have a bathroom ceiling exhaust fan that isn't working...
dunno yet whether it is the switch, the wiring or the fan...


Look in there. These days most of these fans have a NEMA 1-15 plug on
them and you can test the fan itself with an extension cord.
Also try spinning the blade. It may just be bound up. They use oilite
bushings that gum up. A little 3 in 1 oil will get it going but
usually not for long.

There are some real nice DC motor fans from companies like Panasonic
but they ain't cheap. They are quiet with LED lights and smart
programmable sensors. (motion, humidity etc)


Ahh, thanks. Will try. Probably give myself a good heart-starting jolt
in the process. Even if I shut off the circuit! :)

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

amdx[_3_] November 22nd 13 10:35 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/21/2013 2:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 3:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 3:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/21/13, 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just returned home and checked the news.

Following months of threats by Harry Reid, the Senate has exercised the
"Nuclear Option" for presidential appointees except for Supreme Court
nominees. This means a simple majority vote is all that is needed to
affirm nominees rather than the 60 vote majority that has been used for
decades. This virtually eliminates the ability to hold up appointments
with filibusters.

The political wrangling continues.




Watching Mitch McConnell lie and whine about it was priceless.



McConnell was for the nuclear option before he was against it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpeklsK6oA



Well, of course. It all depends on who controls the Senate and which
side is using the filibuster to hold up appointments. The Dems are
just as guilty as the Republicans, although the Republicans have made
more use of the filibuster of late.


It makes sense, when someone says they are going to fundamental
change America, the constitution is set to slow that down.
Mikek

Mr. Luddite November 23rd 13 01:37 AM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/2013 7:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




"Nuts." A great DSM-V diagnosis. Love it.



His words. Not the VA's.


Has your friend given up on obtaining help for his psychological
problems? Is he still visiting the VA for therapy?



He continues to go for sessions mainly to address anger issues that
manifest themselves mostly in an inability to deal in a normal, rational
way with others at times, especially if there is a conflict of interest.
Most people can deal with that. He can't. He's better than he was 12
years ago when he really had some serious issues. There's no "cure" as
I understand it ... only a continuous trial of dealing with internal
pressures that only he and his shrink know and discuss. As a long time
friend and the best man at his wedding he has discussed some of them
with me, but not all. They relate to experiences in Vietnam that were
so contrary to what he was a person. He wasn't a fighter. He was a
Hospital Corpsman trying to save lives. I don't really understand all
his issues and I don't probe.

He has also slowed down a bit following two heart attacks. He has a
total of five stents now and knows he's on borrowed time. Funny thing
is, he is fit as a fiddle, no body fat and no history of heart problems
in his family.

About 12 years ago he was really down because he was trying to buy a
motorcycle apparel shop to make a living and was trying to go through
the SBA process to get a loan. The process frustrated him even more,
due in part to his issues. That was about the time I had sold my
business and was in a position to help. I hesitate to say this because
certain people here might think I am bragging or something, but I gave
him the money he needed to buy the shop. It gave both me and Mrs.E.
great pleasure to be able to help. It worked out well for several years
but eventually he had to give it up. Customers would **** him off and
the anger issues would arise.

His wife is a sweetheart and has been a foundation of support for him
over the years. She's a principal in a local school system following
many years of teaching. Good people but it's too bad he was never able
to achieve his early goals in life.



F.O.A.D. November 23rd 13 01:56 AM

Nuclear Option
 
On 11/22/13, 8:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




"Nuts." A great DSM-V diagnosis. Love it.



His words. Not the VA's.


Has your friend given up on obtaining help for his psychological
problems? Is he still visiting the VA for therapy?



He continues to go for sessions mainly to address anger issues that
manifest themselves mostly in an inability to deal in a normal, rational
way with others at times, especially if there is a conflict of interest.
Most people can deal with that. He can't. He's better than he was 12
years ago when he really had some serious issues. There's no "cure" as
I understand it ... only a continuous trial of dealing with internal
pressures that only he and his shrink know and discuss. As a long time
friend and the best man at his wedding he has discussed some of them
with me, but not all. They relate to experiences in Vietnam that were
so contrary to what he was a person. He wasn't a fighter. He was a
Hospital Corpsman trying to save lives. I don't really understand all
his issues and I don't probe.

He has also slowed down a bit following two heart attacks. He has a
total of five stents now and knows he's on borrowed time. Funny thing
is, he is fit as a fiddle, no body fat and no history of heart problems
in his family.

About 12 years ago he was really down because he was trying to buy a
motorcycle apparel shop to make a living and was trying to go through
the SBA process to get a loan. The process frustrated him even more,
due in part to his issues. That was about the time I had sold my
business and was in a position to help. I hesitate to say this because
certain people here might think I am bragging or something, but I gave
him the money he needed to buy the shop. It gave both me and Mrs.E.
great pleasure to be able to help. It worked out well for several years
but eventually he had to give it up. Customers would **** him off and
the anger issues would arise.

His wife is a sweetheart and has been a foundation of support for him
over the years. She's a principal in a local school system following
many years of teaching. Good people but it's too bad he was never able
to achieve his early goals in life.



Sad story...thanks for sharing.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

John H[_2_] November 23rd 13 12:47 PM

Nuclear Option
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:37:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2013 7:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




"Nuts." A great DSM-V diagnosis. Love it.



His words. Not the VA's.


Has your friend given up on obtaining help for his psychological
problems? Is he still visiting the VA for therapy?



He continues to go for sessions mainly to address anger issues that
manifest themselves mostly in an inability to deal in a normal, rational
way with others at times, especially if there is a conflict of interest.
Most people can deal with that. He can't. He's better than he was 12
years ago when he really had some serious issues. There's no "cure" as
I understand it ... only a continuous trial of dealing with internal
pressures that only he and his shrink know and discuss. As a long time
friend and the best man at his wedding he has discussed some of them
with me, but not all. They relate to experiences in Vietnam that were
so contrary to what he was a person. He wasn't a fighter. He was a
Hospital Corpsman trying to save lives. I don't really understand all
his issues and I don't probe.

He has also slowed down a bit following two heart attacks. He has a
total of five stents now and knows he's on borrowed time. Funny thing
is, he is fit as a fiddle, no body fat and no history of heart problems
in his family.

About 12 years ago he was really down because he was trying to buy a
motorcycle apparel shop to make a living and was trying to go through
the SBA process to get a loan. The process frustrated him even more,
due in part to his issues. That was about the time I had sold my
business and was in a position to help. I hesitate to say this because
certain people here might think I am bragging or something, but I gave
him the money he needed to buy the shop. It gave both me and Mrs.E.
great pleasure to be able to help. It worked out well for several years
but eventually he had to give it up. Customers would **** him off and
the anger issues would arise.

His wife is a sweetheart and has been a foundation of support for him
over the years. She's a principal in a local school system following
many years of teaching. Good people but it's too bad he was never able
to achieve his early goals in life.


Don't ever introduce the guy to Krause.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




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