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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees A Cleveland Walmart store is holding a food drive - for its own employees. "Please donate food items so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner," reads a sign accompanied by several plastic bins. The Cleveland Plain Dealer first reported on the food drive, which has sparked outrage in the area. "That Walmart would have the audacity to ask low-wage workers to donate food to other low-wage workers - to me, it is a moral outrage," Norma Mills, a customer at the store, told the Plain Dealer. A company spokesman defended the food drive, telling the Plain Dealer that it is evidence that employees care about each other. Wal-Mart has been criticized for paying low wages to its 2.2 million employees. Last week, 50 people were arrested after protesting the retailer's pay at a store in Los Angeles. Wal-Mart turned a profit of $15.7 billion last year. -- http://tinyurl.com/m6zv7fy WalMart and McDonalds are the two biggest welfare queens in the United States. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 15:07:55 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees snip... Unbelievable. Locals should tar and feather the person who dreamed this up and run him out of town. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 2:31 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 15:07:55 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote: Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees snip... Unbelievable. Locals should tar and feather the person who dreamed this up and run him out of town. It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/2013 2:31 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 15:07:55 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote: Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees snip... Unbelievable. Locals should tar and feather the person who dreamed this up and run him out of town. I'm so proud that our efforts to get you to post correctly have finally paid off. Thank you Donnie. -- Americans deserve better. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/2013 2:48 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 2:31 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 15:07:55 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote: Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees snip... Unbelievable. Locals should tar and feather the person who dreamed this up and run him out of town. It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. It seems that your boy hasn't leveled the playing field as promised. -- Americans deserve better. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/2013 2:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:07:55 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees A Cleveland Walmart store is holding a food drive - for its own employees. "Please donate food items so associates in need can enjoy Thanksgiving dinner," reads a sign accompanied by several plastic bins. The Cleveland Plain Dealer first reported on the food drive, which has sparked outrage in the area. "That Walmart would have the audacity to ask low-wage workers to donate food to other low-wage workers - to me, it is a moral outrage," Norma Mills, a customer at the store, told the Plain Dealer. A company spokesman defended the food drive, telling the Plain Dealer that it is evidence that employees care about each other. Wal-Mart has been criticized for paying low wages to its 2.2 million employees. Last week, 50 people were arrested after protesting the retailer's pay at a store in Los Angeles. Wal-Mart turned a profit of $15.7 billion last year. The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Wait a minute. Your boy promised that there would be no more ****ing over of low income people. You need to bend his ear and get him to do the job that his supporters hired him to do. That is, if you have the balls to speak to a venue other than rec.boats. -- Americans deserve better. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:25:58 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at Walmart or McDonalds. They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of holding. The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the end product. Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories that employ near slave labor. Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid vacation? Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash" employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out in the country. As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your Apple stuff? An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail person. If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30 billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the profits. 2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000 employees. Harry's WalMart printer was probably made in Taiwan, not China. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at Walmart or McDonalds. They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of holding. The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the end product. Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories that employ near slave labor. Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid vacation? Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash" employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out in the country. As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your Apple stuff? An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail person. If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30 billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the profits. 2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000 employees. Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is running. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at Walmart or McDonalds. They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of holding. The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the end product. Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories that employ near slave labor. Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid vacation? Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash" employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out in the country. As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your Apple stuff? An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail person. If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30 billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the profits. 2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000 employees. Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is running. Do you have any data that disputes it? You make it sound like Mom and Pop are paying their employees $40 an hour. BTW do you actually know anyone who works at Walmart and how do they feel about it. I know a single mom in Oklahoma who was thrilled to get her walmart job. She finally got insurance for her kid. How soon after that did George Zimmerman kill the kid so she could collect on the policy? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 3:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 3:42 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:25 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at Walmart or McDonalds. They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of holding. The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the end product. Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories that employ near slave labor. Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid vacation? Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash" employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out in the country. As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your Apple stuff? An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail person. If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30 billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the profits. 2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000 employees. Wow...you've really bought into those bull**** TV commercials walmart is running. Do you have any data that disputes it? You make it sound like Mom and Pop are paying their employees $40 an hour. BTW do you actually know anyone who works at Walmart and how do they feel about it. I know a single mom in Oklahoma who was thrilled to get her walmart job. She finally got insurance for her kid. How soon after that did George Zimmerman kill the kid so she could collect on the policy? Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy enough food to eat. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy enough food to eat. Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too. And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or miss. Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's house, in a less "expensive" area. A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass. But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA. Some like it that way, some don't. Easy to tell who's who in that regard. Yes, we should all be so proud of Apple: "So who's the biggest wage stiffer? Apple is by far the worst in rewarding profitability. But Walmart underpays the most people, and McDonald's pays the lowest wages. For those of us who subsidize these companies with tax dollars for their employees' food stamps and Medicaid, it doesn't matter who's worse. We're all getting stiffed. " There must be some reason you progressive mouthy liberals like Apple so much. What is it? http://www.alternet.org/labor/apple-...t-wage-stiffer [Note: All the cites you could desire are in the article.] John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:20 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. .. All YOU do is sit in your sweaty basement chair and post Clip n Paste ****, Krause. **** YOU **** |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy enough food to eat. Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too. And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or miss. Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's house, in a less "expensive" area. A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass. But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA. Some like it that way, some don't. Easy to tell who's who in that regard. So don't work for Walmart. They don't put a gun to your head and make you work there. If they couldn't get people to work for what they pay, they would pay more or simply close the store. Ahh, a fan of the climb to the bottom. Well, of course. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 7:34 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:14:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 6:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:31:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bull****, it is closer to $13 Documentation? I was wrong, that is the average of all employees. I've seen several reliable cites that indicate the average full time WalMart store employee is making about $8.81 an hour. A couple of years ago, the manager at that time of my local Apple Store tried to recruit me for his weekend sales staff, to help the "geezer crowd" buy and use Apple products, especially laptop and desktop computers. I don't recall exactly what he was willing to pay, but I do recall at the time...this was three years ago...that the pay range of "Apple Genius" employees ranged from $20 to $30 an hour or more in our area, and more in bigger markets. These are not the sales clerk jobs, which paid a little less back then. Don't know what the rates are these days. I really didn't want to give up my weekend days, though, but it might have been a hoot. http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Appl...ries-E1138.htm Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/2013 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote: The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits). Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the urban stores where you see these protests. What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low income people, you support it. Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at Walmart or McDonalds. They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of holding. The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the end product. Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories that employ near slave labor. You act like Detroit didn't drive manufacturing overseas long before Walmart ever started to get big.... Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid vacation? Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash" employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out in the country. As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your Apple stuff? An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail person. If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30 billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the profits. 2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000 employees. |
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. === You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store. I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job. I dunno. I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye. Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and laptop Apple gear. I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow. In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an environment I like. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
In article , says...
On 11/19/13, 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy enough food to eat. Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too. And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or miss. Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's house, in a less "expensive" area. A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass. But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA. Some like it that way, some don't. Easy to tell who's who in that regard. So don't work for Walmart. They don't put a gun to your head and make you work there. If they couldn't get people to work for what they pay, they would pay more or simply close the store. Ahh, a fan of the climb to the bottom. Well, of course. The laws of economics are not working in your favor. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. === You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve. Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The whole enchilada. -- Americans deserve better. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/2013 9:06 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. === You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve. Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The whole enchilada. He wrote that ad for us, never hit Monster.com... |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/2013 9:11 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/20/2013 9:06 AM, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. === You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve. Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The whole enchilada. He wrote that ad for us, never hit Monster.com... Why in the world would he go to the trouble of writing the ad and not post it? -- Americans deserve better. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/13, 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:30:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store. I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job. I dunno. I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye. Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and laptop Apple gear. I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow. In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an environment I like. The Glass Door site lists this as a salaried position vs hourly and that generally translates to long hours because they do not pay overtime. That is a common dodge in the tech business. I am guessing the job you were teased with was not the same thing. Didn't pursue it, but all I was being recruited for was a part-time weekend sort of job...my guess is that the "genius" salary could have been divided into an hourly rate. It's another "I dunno." :) -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:20:04 -0500, Hank©
wrote: On 11/20/2013 9:11 AM, KC wrote: On 11/20/2013 9:06 AM, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented by the federal government. === You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve. Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The whole enchilada. He wrote that ad for us, never hit Monster.com... Why in the world would he go to the trouble of writing the ad and not post it? === It was a homework assignment for his creative writing class. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Wednesday, 20 November 2013 13:40:47 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/20/13, 12:31 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:30:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store. I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job. I dunno. I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye. Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and laptop Apple gear. I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow. In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an environment I like. The Glass Door site lists this as a salaried position vs hourly and that generally translates to long hours because they do not pay overtime. That is a common dodge in the tech business. I am guessing the job you were teased with was not the same thing. Didn't pursue it, but all I was being recruited for was a part-time weekend sort of job...my guess is that the "genius" salary could have been divided into an hourly rate. It's another "I dunno." :) That might have been a perfect job for our resident internet service provider and troubleshooter. It would give him a taste of real work in small doses until he got up to speed. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/13, 1:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 November 2013 13:40:47 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/20/13, 12:31 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:30:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store. I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job. I dunno. I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye. Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and laptop Apple gear. I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow. In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an environment I like. The Glass Door site lists this as a salaried position vs hourly and that generally translates to long hours because they do not pay overtime. That is a common dodge in the tech business. I am guessing the job you were teased with was not the same thing. Didn't pursue it, but all I was being recruited for was a part-time weekend sort of job...my guess is that the "genius" salary could have been divided into an hourly rate. It's another "I dunno." :) That might have been a perfect job for our resident internet service provider and troubleshooter. It would give him a taste of real work in small doses until he got up to speed. Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
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WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:32:44 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. ....or the inability to 'frame questions properly', an ability which sets FOAD apart from normal humans. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. If he was Genius Bar material, he would not have to be at the Apple store that much. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/13, 5:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. If he was Genius Bar material, he would not have to be at the Apple store that much. There you go again, Bilious, demonstrating your ignorance. The two Apple stores I visit, including the one I visit the most, are inside regional shopping malls. I go to these malls to accompany my wife, who shops at these malls. Unfortunately, there are very few stores at these malls that interest me. So I visit the Apple stores there quite a bit and, at one of the malls, Restoration Hardware and L.L. Bean. The manager at one of the Apple stores and I "befriended" each other at his store and on Facebook. Hey...got any really dumb political views to espouse today, Bilious? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/20/13, 5:04 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. If he was Genius Bar material, he would not have to be at the Apple store that much. There you go again, Bilious, demonstrating your ignorance. The two Apple stores I visit, including the one I visit the most, are inside regional shopping malls. I go to these malls to accompany my wife, who shops at these malls. Unfortunately, there are very few stores at these malls that interest me. So I visit the Apple stores there quite a bit and, at one of the malls, Restoration Hardware and L.L. Bean. The manager at one of the Apple stores and I "befriended" each other at his store and on Facebook. Hey...got any really dumb political views to espouse today, Bilious? So you were befriended. Still does not make you an Apple Genius. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/13, 5:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 5:04 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. If he was Genius Bar material, he would not have to be at the Apple store that much. There you go again, Bilious, demonstrating your ignorance. The two Apple stores I visit, including the one I visit the most, are inside regional shopping malls. I go to these malls to accompany my wife, who shops at these malls. Unfortunately, there are very few stores at these malls that interest me. So I visit the Apple stores there quite a bit and, at one of the malls, Restoration Hardware and L.L. Bean. The manager at one of the Apple stores and I "befriended" each other at his store and on Facebook. Hey...got any really dumb political views to espouse today, Bilious? So you were befriended. Still does not make you an Apple Genius. That's right, Bilious. I was discussing a job with an Apple store manager a few years ago, he was talking about hiring me as an Apple Genius for the Geezer crowd, and I turned it down. So, I'm not an Apple Genius. You, on the other hand, are a moron. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
WalMart Asks Customers to Donate Food to Its Employees
On 11/20/2013 4:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:07:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/20/13, 3:45 PM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:24:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Doubtful. Apple manager was looking for someone who actually had knowledge and could transfer that knowledge to customers and potential customers. PsychoSnotty is knowledge free and hasn't the personality to deal with inquisitive people. It does beg the question of how you got the training and experience to present yourself as 3d level support. Typically that comes after extensive corporate training and years of experience., That is why I question them hiring a stranger off the street, no matter how charming you are with the customer. On the other hand, seeing the quality of tech support, I would not be shocked. The expectations of quality are so low that mediocre support gets rave reviews. All they have to do is give you the illusion of support these days they don't actually have to fix anything. Maybe the manager came to that conclusion after the many conversations I had with him, the occasional problems I presented to the "genius bar," and my ability to frame questions properly to the guys in the back who actually tear the machines apart for repair. Oh, and I've had good success with getting hardware and software support from apple. One of the reasons for Apple commanding premium prices is its level of support. Perhaps you should dump those no-name boxes you call computers and not shop by price alone. I am my own tech support. I don't think HP/Compaq and IBM/Lenovo are exactly "no name" either My comments are based on my wife's experiences. Apple does not really have a product for her applications and the support they get on these products suck. They did their homework and bought the product with the highest rated support but it turned out to be very buggy and the bugs were not getting fixed. The support staff was very courteous and responded on a timely basis but they couldn't fix anything. They started quizzing the people who gave those glowing reviews and found out they had the same problems, unfixed but they said the tech support was so nice they gave them good scores. Like I said, lowered expectations. Screw harrys fantasy job offer... although it is interesting to watch him weave what he must think is supporting testimony to his bull****... LOL! Anyway, we have had the same results from the Samsung reps, even in the Best Buy store, they can transfer pics, etc... but really don't get into the guts any further than what they play with themselves... |
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