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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized
Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. -- An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds, and he had been shot. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. -- Americans deserve better. |
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On 11/19/13, 1:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Creigh Deedsā son had mental-health evaluation Monday BY JIM NOLAN AND MICHAEL MARTZ Richmond Times-Dispatch | Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:38 am Sen. Creigh Deeds was stabbed multiple times early today at his Bath County home and his son, Gus, is dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. Gus Deeds had been released Monday following a mental health evaluation performed under an emergency custody order, an official said. At a news conference in Charlottesville, a Virginia State Police spokeswoman said Deeds was stabbed numerous times in the head and torso but was alert and had given statements to authorities. She said Deeds, who was being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center, had been seriously wounded. Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge County Community Services Board, told the Richmond Times-Dispatch that the emergency custody order, or ECO, allowed Gus Deeds to be held as long as four hours to determine whether he should be held longer, up to 72 hours, under a temporary detention order. The son was evaluated Monday at Bath County Hospital, Cropper said, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia. At the news conference, state police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said Gus Deeds was found inside the family's residence in rural Millboro with a gunshot wound, and died at the scene. Geller said authorities are not looking for other suspects. Authorities said they were still working to determine the sequence of events that they said took place around 7:25 a.m. Deeds and his son, Gus, 24, were the only people at the residence at the time of the stabbing, state police Sgt. Mike King confirmed at the scene. King said that Gus Deeds died of an "apparent" self-inflicted gunshot wound inside. Deeds was stabbed numerous times before walking down a private drive and out to state Route 42, where he was picked up by a cousin who lives nearby, King told The Roanoke Times. Deeds was flown to the hospital from the cousinās farm, King added. It was unclear how Deeds contacted the cousin. Austin Creigh "Gus" Deeds was one of four children that Deeds had with his first wife. He attended the College of William and Mary but had recently withdrawn, according to the college. The college community was "very saddened to hear this tragic news," said Brian Whitson, a William and Mary spokesman. "He had been enrolled as a student at William and Mary since 2007, though not continuously. He withdrew from the college last month and was not currently enrolled at the time of his death. Our hearts go out to the entire Deeds family." Gus Deeds was charged with underage alcohol possession in 2009. The case was dismissed, according to court records in Bath County. "This is a terrible tragedy," Del. David J. Toscano, D-Charlottesville, said in a statement. "Senator Deeds was very close to his son Gus, and has taken herculean efforts to help him over the years. Our thoughts and prayers are with Creigh and the family at this difficult time." Deeds, 55, has served in the state Senate since 2001, representing Bath County. He lost two statewide contests to Republican Bob McDonnell, for attorney general in 2005 and for governor in 2009. āIn this tough and sad time, our thoughts and prayers are with the Deeds family," McDonnell said in a statement. "Creigh Deeds is an exceptional and committed public servant who has always done what he believes is best for Virginia and who gives his all to public service. He cares deeply about Virginia, and the people of Virginia care deeply for him. "I urge all Virginians today to join me in praying for a full and complete recovery for Creigh and for many more years of his public service to the commonwealth. At this moment, our state unites in prayer for Creigh Deeds and his family.ā In an interview, McDonnell said he is "just stunned and really heartbroken for Creigh and his family...He's a good, decent, honest tenacious public servant." Deeds won a special election in 2001 to fill the state Senate seat of Emily Couric, who died of cancer. The district extends from Charlottesville to the Alleghany Highlands and to the West Virginia line. It includes Bath - the third-least populous county in the commonwealth, with roughly 5,000 residents and no stoplights. Outspent nearly 3 to 1, Deeds lost the 2005 race for attorney general to McDonnell by the slimmest margin in modern Virginia history -- until the current election for attorney general. Deeds was born in Richmond in 1958, the son of a former Richmond police officer and state worker. His parents divorced when he was 7, and he moved with his mother and younger brother, Greg, to the Millboro farm of his maternal grandparents in Bath County, where his grandfather, Austin Creigh Tyree, was chairman of the Democratic committee. Deeds and his first wife, Pamela Kay Miller, had four children: Amanda, Rebecca, Gus, and Susannah. Amanda, a graduate of the University of Virginia, and Gus, then a junior at William and Mary, took time off to join their father on the trail in 2009. Deeds and his first wife divorced in 2010. The Washington Post reported at the time that the marriage was "a casualty of a nearly 20-year pursuit of a lifelong ambition that kept him away from home." Deeds married Siobhan Gilbride Lomax of Lexington in June 2012. Del. R. Steven Landes, R-Augusta, shares representation of part of Albemarle County with Deeds, and he said they often had talked about their families. "It's just a real shock," said Landes, who was on his way to Roanoke today for the annual two-day retreat of the House Appropriations Committee. "I know his family is very important to him," Landes said. "It's just very unfortunate and tragic." The U.Va. University Democrats and College Republicans announced they will hold a joint vigil for Deeds at 8 p.m. Thursday at the U.Va. Ampitheater. (Olympia Meola, Karin Kapsidelis and Andrew Cain contributed to this report.) -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/2013 1:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Apparently, the guy who brought the knife to the gunfight, lost. He obviously wasn't an Indiana Jones fan. BTW Was William and Mary one of the ones you flew over on your way to Kansas? -- Americans deserve better. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/2013 1:59 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Who said he didn't. They aren't looking for any suspects. Hmmmm. -- Americans deserve better. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:49 -0500, Hank© wrote:
On 11/19/2013 1:59 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Who said he didn't. They aren't looking for any suspects. Hmmmm. Yup. Looks like one of 'em did have a gun. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:43:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? You should use Elmer's Glue. Sniffing it won't make you high like the stuff you're using now. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/2013 5:08 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:43:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? You should use Elmer's Glue. Sniffing it won't make you high like the stuff you're using now. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! He has been acting squirrely lately. You might have hit on the cause. -- Americans deserve better. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread? |
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 5:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread? It's a *developing* news story. That means details are released as they are released. Got it? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Yeah, there could have been even more bloodshed and death, eh Christian? Was an attempted murder, suicide. Suicide worked. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. And once again, Bilious...every day for you. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 5:46 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread? It's a *developing* news story. That means details are released as they are released. Got it? Add to the original thread. Got it? |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. And once again, Bilious...every day for you. He was a Senator. I bet they could have got a room! Seems as if the Dr.Dr.Dr.'s of Virginia did not think he was that bad. Makes those mental health professionals look a little incompetent. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 8:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 5:46 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread? It's a *developing* news story. That means details are released as they are released. Got it? Add to the original thread. Got it? You're not in charge. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 9:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. And once again, Bilious...every day for you. He was a Senator. I bet they could have got a room! Seems as if the Dr.Dr.Dr.'s of Virginia did not think he was that bad. Makes those mental health professionals look a little incompetent. And again you demonstrate your ignorance. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 9:05 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. And once again, Bilious...every day for you. He was a Senator. I bet they could have got a room! Seems as if the Dr.Dr.Dr.'s of Virginia did not think he was that bad. Makes those mental health professionals look a little incompetent. And again you demonstrate your ignorance. You demonstrate you bias. Again and again and again. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/20/13, 12:08 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 9:05 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, HankĀ© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. And once again, Bilious...every day for you. He was a Senator. I bet they could have got a room! Seems as if the Dr.Dr.Dr.'s of Virginia did not think he was that bad. Makes those mental health professionals look a little incompetent. And again you demonstrate your ignorance. You demonstrate you bias. Again and again and again. What bias is that, Bill? There's a shortage of beds for psychiatric patients in Virginia generally, and especially in the more rural parts of the state. I have no idea what facilities might be available out in western rural Virginia. Your comment that because the young man's father is a state senator, a room would automatically be made available is just more of your uninformed nonsense. The reality is, many of the "facts" of this sad case are still unknown. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:32:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story? No. But his later comments didn't reference that. "Crooper released a statement late Tuesday which did not confirm what he told the Times-Dispatch about Deeds' exam or a lack of available beds, but described the process for holding someone under an emergency custody order (ECO)": That makes it sound like the son checked himself out It doesn't sound that way at all. What it sounds like is that the later statement simply didn't reference the earlier statement. Would it be a surprise to you to learn that a bed in a psych facility wouldn't be immediately available in that part of rural Virginia? They 'coptered the dad to Charlottesville, pretty much a two hour car drive away because there wasn't a hospital near where the family lived that was capable of handling the case. I wonder if that part of Virginia has much more than a couple of crappy facilities for treating substance abusers. Additionally, as I pointed out in another post, Governor McDonnell and the Virginia legislature made drastic cuts to the state's budget for psychiatric hospital beds, and those cuts may well have impacted what might have been available in a private psych hospital or at least a general hospital that was equipped to handle psych patients. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
On 11/19/13, 10:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 8:47 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:41:29 -0500, BAR wrote: The sad thing is that the kid, the one who offed himself, was released because they didn't have a bed in a pshyc facility available for him. I guess closing down all of the mental healht care facilities and releasing all of the nut jobs in the 70's served its purpose. That was mostly caused by a series of cases where the courts decided involuntary commitment equated to depriving a person of liberty and could only be imposed by due process. (14th amendment). Subsequent laws that defined "evaluations" further restricted exactly how long someone can be held with or without a court order. We don't know the details of this sad event, so this is pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me if drug and/or alcohol addiction is involved with Gus (the son) still in total denial. The early reports indicate he had been released from an area hospital Monday following a mental health evaluation. That could also have been an overnight "detox" period followed by the mental health evaluation. Getting a court order for involuntary commitment is difficult. Laws protect the rights of the person in question. A shrink's evaluation that the person "could" or "might" hurt himself or others is not sufficient in itself to cause a judge to order an involuntary commitment. The person has to actually hurt him/herself (attempt suicide) or cause injury to another person in order to be involuntarily committed in most circumstances. This was explained to me last year when I was involved in getting someone some help for severe alcoholism. The fact that the person in question had a blood alcohol level that is considered "lethal" (450) and had been driving a car in a reckless manner (endangering others) still wasn't sufficient. I was flabbergasted to learn this, but that's the law. If the person in question is still in a state of denial of their addiction, but hasn't actually hurt him/herself or anyone else, it's tough to have them involuntarily committed. My speculation is that this may be the case in this situation. If Gus had been determined to be an *immediate* threat to himself or others by virtue of demonstrated action, a bed would have been found. I would guess there are a couple of detox facilities out there in rural Virginia, but no real psych hospital. The dad had to be flown to Charlottesville for treatment of his knife wounds, which tells me there isn't even much of a general hospital out there. It's a lightly populated county. Here's a bit from another news report: Streeting...is an issue Virginia has struggled with before. In 2011, Virginia inspector general G. Douglas Bevelacqua released a report chastising the state for turning away in a month an estimated 200 patients determined to be a threat to themselves or others who met the criteria for a temporary detention, only because state facilities lacked the room to hold them. Twenty-three of Virginias 40 community-services boards acknowledged that streeting occurred at their facilities. I wouldnt say this happens every day, but its more common than wed like for it to be, Mary Ann Bergeron, the executive director of the Virginia Association of Community Services Board, told the Washington Post. Under Virginias emergency-custody-order process, the family of a patient petitions a magistrate to order an evaluation, and medical staff have a four-hour window to decide whether someone should be committed, according to Cropper, who declined to speak about the specifics of the Deeds case out of respect for the familys privacy. The clock starts when a sheriff picks up the patient and brings him or her in for clinical evaluation. Once the evaluation is complete, physicians make a recommendation to the magistrate. If the magistrate approves, medical staff then search for an available hospital bed. It all has to happen during the four-hour time frame. We can sometimes get an extension of two hours on that, but beyond the six hours we cannot. So if we dont find a bed within six hours, then an individual would have to be released. We cant keep them, says Cropper. The availability of inpatient psychiatric care has decreased nationally in recent years. Research from the Treatment Advocacy Center, a national nonprofit focused on eliminating barriers to treatment of severe mental illness, found that the number of state psychiatric beds decreased nationwide by 14% between 2005 and 2010. In 2005 there were 50,509 state psychiatric beds nationwide, and in 2010 there were 43,318. Its estimated that a person with severe mental illness is three times more likely to be in a state prison than a psychiatric hospital. Tightening state budgets have widened the gap in available beds. In the wake of the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting that claimed 32 lives, Virginias legislature took measures to revamp the emergency-evaluation processes, updated the criteria for involuntary psychiatric commitment and raised state funding for community mental-health services. But according to a report from the National Alliance on Mental Illness, Virginias overall state mental-health budget decreased $37.7 million dollars from $424.3 million to $386.6 million between fiscal years 2009 and 2012. The consequences of not providing treatment should demonstrate the importance of the need for it, says Kristina Ragosta, director of advocacy at the Treatment Advocacy Center. Most people with mental illness are no more violent than the general population, but when we talk about people with untreated mental illness, they are at greater risk of committing violent acts. -- The four to six hour window for evaluation in Virginia is an absurdity, especially in a rural area where there are not likely to be professionals qualified to evaluate potential psychiatric patients. Certainly a regular physician can tell if an individual is "raving," but I'm not sure they can evaluate a more difficult case. Psychiatric diagnosis depends upon more than accurately noting "visible" problems or the results of blood tests. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News. A second individual was found deceased inside the residence. Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon today. What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer? Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By what means was the deceased dispatched? Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws. It was in Harry's original note "An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of Deeds and he had been shot." Sen Deeds was stabbed. So far CNN is not talking about any other people. The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds were considered serious. The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in Willamsburg. The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they were not looking for suspects. That's about all the "meat" revealed. Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking for one. Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like domestic violence. The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an empty bed, or so the news reports. According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it. Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right? He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid. Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are. News report last night said that a bed was available at a facility. Sad thing is the facility wasn't contacted about the available bed. It is a breakdown in the mental health community. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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On 11/19/13, 9:50 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:32:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: CNN reports: The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper. Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story? No. But his later comments didn't reference that. "Crooper released a statement late Tuesday which did not confirm what he told the Times-Dispatch about Deeds' exam or a lack of available beds, but described the process for holding someone under an emergency custody order (ECO)": That makes it sound like the son checked himself out It doesn't sound that way at all. What it sounds like is that the later statement simply didn't reference the earlier statement. Would it be a surprise to you to learn that a bed in a psych facility wouldn't be immediately available in that part of rural Virginia? They 'coptered the dad to Charlottesville, pretty much a two hour car drive away because there wasn't a hospital near where the family lived that was capable of handling the case. I wonder if that part of Virginia has much more than a couple of crappy facilities for treating substance abusers. Additionally, as I pointed out in another post, Governor McDonnell and the Virginia legislature made drastic cuts to the state's budget for psychiatric hospital beds, and those cuts may well have impacted what might have been available in a private psych hospital or at least a general hospital that was equipped to handle psych patients. Why is it that the facts never support your political spin? http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...mental-health- beds-found/article_41a00cb2-5197-11e3-81be-001a4bcf6878.html While Cropper would not say which hospitals officials called in Deeds? case, he rattled off a half-dozen facilities board members generally try in cases like his. Two hospitals on the list ? the UVa Medical Center and Rockingham Memorial Hospital in Harrisonburg ? said they had available psychiatric beds Monday. An official at a third hospital, Augusta Health in Fishersville, said no beds were available. |
Former Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Assaulted in Home
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