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Bernie Sanders:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/15/2013 10:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q I enjoy listening to his views. Doubtful I'd ever vote for him though. Here's another YouTube for your viewing pleasu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coVE0PDGSw4 |
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On 11/15/13, 11:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2013 10:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q I enjoy listening to his views. Doubtful I'd ever vote for him though. Here's another YouTube for your viewing pleasu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coVE0PDGSw4 He handles assholes, such as the fellow from Human Events, very well. :) -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/15/2013 2:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. Clinton lucked out in the respect that bin Laden and the organizers of the 9/11 attacks weren't ready a year earlier. They didn't care if it was Clinton or Bush. |
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On 11/15/13, 2:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2013 2:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. Clinton lucked out in the respect that bin Laden and the organizers of the 9/11 attacks weren't ready a year earlier. They didn't care if it was Clinton or Bush. So all those reports that stated bin Laden was ****ed because G.H.W. Bush put troops in holy Saudi Arabia, and that G.H.W. was targeted by bin Laden were just more obfuscation put out by Dubya and his administration? Sure. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. Actually, they were wars Clinton was involved in, and Bush just continued. |
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On 11/15/13, 3:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. Actually, they were wars Clinton was involved in, and Bush just continued. Oh, right, because Clinton dispatched so many troops into Iraq and Afghanistan. Right, I get it...Bush just "continued" the wars. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/15/13, 3:08 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/15/13, 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:48:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Bernie Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-xjwgol4Q Bernie uses a lot of platitudes that are not exactly true in his tirades against the job makers. The Clinton "surplus" was mostly projections based on the dot com bubble never ending. The cost of the Iraq war is inflated. We were already in an Iraq war when Bush came in and it wasn't cheap then. Pension costs are going to be there no matter what. The tax cuts were across the board, not just for the rich. That is why almost half of the people pay no income taxes at all. Clinton's "surplus" was also a result of excess Social Security revenues that were transferred to the General Fund. The excesses were the result of a robust but artificial economy based on dot.com companies that never produced a product. The transfer of excess SS revenues to the General Fund is legal but it's a bit of creative accounting to claim it erased the deficit and produced a surplus. I'm sorry, I must have missed the off budget accounting for the two wars Bush started. Actually, they were wars Clinton was involved in, and Bush just continued. Oh, right, because Clinton dispatched so many troops into Iraq and Afghanistan. Right, I get it...Bush just "continued" the wars. How much was that Naval carrier groups and bombing and missile firing costing? Nothing? Not likely! How much did the Balkans cost? Somalia? All Clinton failures! |
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