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F.O.A.D. November 7th 13 01:19 AM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On 11/6/13, 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 8:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW
Bush
has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the
trials
and tribulations of the current president.



I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me
he's
done virtually nothing since leaving office.


You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough.




It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former
presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved
citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and
active.


Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill
Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like
people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a
manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't.




:) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood
Dubya. Love it.


It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.



I think you are overequipped intellectually for the job. You need to
start up a new business. :)


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Mr. Luddite November 7th 13 01:19 AM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On 11/6/2013 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 11/6/2013 8:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW
Bush
has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the
trials
and tribulations of the current president.



I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me
he's
done virtually nothing since leaving office.


You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough.




It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former
presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved
citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and
active.


Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill
Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like
people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a
manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't.




:) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood
Dubya. Love it.


It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.



I should point out that I have no particular affinity for GW Bush. I
just think he has received a raw deal by some on the left with
accusations for deeds for which there is no proof, only "accusations"
and assumptions. I think he did his best as he saw it to protect the
country after 9/11. I also think events that occurred during his terms
as POTUS still weigh heavily on his mind.






Mr. Luddite November 7th 13 01:51 AM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On 11/6/2013 8:19 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/6/13, 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:




It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.



I think you are overequipped intellectually for the job. You need to
start up a new business. :)



Heh. 15, 20 years ago, no problem. Now-a-days? Forget about it. Too
many rules, regulations, reports and other requirements totally
unrelated to what your core business requirements are.

The business I started back in 1989 initially had three employees
(including me) and a part time accountant. Over time it grew but it was
because I was able to focus on the technology, not on a bunch of
unrelated, non productive issues. I was happy to sell it when it got to
the point where I could no longer do what I did best ... or at least
enjoyed the most.

To start up the same business today I'd need to start out with a cast of
thousands and a healthy line of financing. No thanks. Things have
changed a lot. Details, but time consuming and have costs associated
with them. I don't envy those trying to get a start-up going today.





Hank©[_3_] November 7th 13 12:29 PM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On 11/7/2013 8:16 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:32:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/6/13, 4:14 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




Don't get me wrong...I am enjoying your efforts to resuscitate the
reputation of George W. Bush, the worst president in the memory of
anyone living. :)



Given your expressed disdain for the cultures of many parts of the
country (basically anything south or west of Maryland) your general
background and experiences and admiration for the halls of academia, I
can understand completely why GW Bush could never appeal to you. I
suspect some residual resentment would exist even if he were a Democrat.


George W. Bush was born in the same hospital I was, and he prepped and
attended colleges in New England. He's no more a Texan than I am. Oh,
and I made GOTV phone calls for his grandfather, Prescott, who was a
U.S. Senator from Connecticut.

I got my B.A. degree west of Maryland, and lived in Kansas, Missouri,
West Virginia, Michigan, New York and Virginia, and later in Florida and
Maryland. I had great times out west and in West Virginia, all places
west of Maryland. There goes your theory alleging my disdain for the
cultures of many parts of the country. I admit to not liking the culture
of Texas, where I encountered my first "Whites Only" drinking fountains,
and Mississippi and the rest of the segregated south. The first time I
was shot at it was in Mississippi, and by a typical bunch of white
racists. I even knew the name of the guy who did the shooting, but
that's another story.

George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he
won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted
for him. I have no idea what sort of president Gore might have made, had
the Supremes not stolen the election for him.


You're our hero, Krause. There are folks here who absolutely adore you. I can think of two.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


He got his education west of Maryland. Snerk. That would be cow flap
Kansas; the home of some of the country's finest institutes of learning.

--
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit
is a sign of leadership
failure. Leadership
means that, 'the buck stops here.' America has a debt problem and a
failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better."
BHO (From 2006,when he sometimes told the truth)

iBoaterer[_4_] November 7th 13 12:50 PM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
In article ,
says...

On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush
has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials
and tribulations of the current president.



I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's
done virtually nothing since leaving office.


You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough.




It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former
presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved
citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active.


Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill
Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like
people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a
manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't.


I think the best example of presidents in retirement are both Clinton
and Bush I. Both are using their resources for good, and even coming
together for the common good.

John H[_2_] November 7th 13 01:16 PM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:32:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/6/13, 4:14 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




Don't get me wrong...I am enjoying your efforts to resuscitate the
reputation of George W. Bush, the worst president in the memory of
anyone living. :)



Given your expressed disdain for the cultures of many parts of the
country (basically anything south or west of Maryland) your general
background and experiences and admiration for the halls of academia, I
can understand completely why GW Bush could never appeal to you. I
suspect some residual resentment would exist even if he were a Democrat.


George W. Bush was born in the same hospital I was, and he prepped and
attended colleges in New England. He's no more a Texan than I am. Oh,
and I made GOTV phone calls for his grandfather, Prescott, who was a
U.S. Senator from Connecticut.

I got my B.A. degree west of Maryland, and lived in Kansas, Missouri,
West Virginia, Michigan, New York and Virginia, and later in Florida and
Maryland. I had great times out west and in West Virginia, all places
west of Maryland. There goes your theory alleging my disdain for the
cultures of many parts of the country. I admit to not liking the culture
of Texas, where I encountered my first "Whites Only" drinking fountains,
and Mississippi and the rest of the segregated south. The first time I
was shot at it was in Mississippi, and by a typical bunch of white
racists. I even knew the name of the guy who did the shooting, but
that's another story.

George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he
won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted
for him. I have no idea what sort of president Gore might have made, had
the Supremes not stolen the election for him.


You're our hero, Krause. There are folks here who absolutely adore you. I can think of two.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Mr. Luddite November 7th 13 01:24 PM

McCauliffe projected winner...
 
On 11/7/2013 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



"Mother Jones?" Aw, come on. You can do better than that.

MOTHER JONES MAGAZINE (MJM)
222 Sutter St. - Suite 600
San Francisco, CA
94108
URL :http://www.motherjones.com

Magazine named for socialist labor organizer Mary Harris "Mother" Jones
Does investigative reporting that mostly targets corporations,
capitalists, private property, and Republican officeholders


On second thought ... don't bother. Not interested in getting into a
five day debate.




Please show me what in the article is wrong. You are pulling a Scotty
now, negating the source but saying NOTHING of the facts in the article.


I've stated my beliefs based upon two official (and lawful)
Congressional investigations. The opinions written in liberal op-eds,
anti-war blogs, and left leaning magazines are noteworthy but are based
upon conjecture, speculation and theory and serve no legal purpose in
terms of enforcing any laws.

If it makes you feel good to recite the mantra, "Bush lied us into war",
go for it.

Not interested in a week's worth of bouncing ball BS with you.




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