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MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia
gubernatorial race. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia gubernatorial race. Oh, no doubt that he probably will win but the margin will be really slim. |
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On 11/5/13, 9:44 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia gubernatorial race. Oh, no doubt that he probably will win but the margin will be really slim. Sure is. Most prognosticators were calling a 5-6 point margin. Looks like the margin might only be 2 points or so. Cuccinelli was a real horror story but obviously appealing to large numbers of Virginians. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:48:07 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/5/13, 9:44 PM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia gubernatorial race. Oh, no doubt that he probably will win but the margin will be really slim. Sure is. Most prognosticators were calling a 5-6 point margin. Looks like the margin might only be 2 points or so. Cuccinelli was a real horror story but obviously appealing to large numbers of Virginians. If he'd be that big of a horror story I'd think he'd lose by a cliff drop. |
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On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:48:07 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/5/13, 9:44 PM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia gubernatorial race. Oh, no doubt that he probably will win but the margin will be really slim. Sure is. Most prognosticators were calling a 5-6 point margin. Looks like the margin might only be 2 points or so. USA TODAY 22 minutes ago "Democrat Terry McAuliffe won the Virginia governor's race Tuesday, squeaking by Republican Ken Cuccinelli with the help of voters in the predominantly blue Washington suburbs." 'squeaked" |
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No surprise: Chris Christie re-elected as New Jersey governor CBS News - 4 minutes ago By Jennifer De Pinto, Sarah Dutton and Rebecca Kaplan. "To call it a "race" is almost unfair." |
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On 11/6/2013 7:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I don't see much connection between last night's results in Virginia and the 2014 or 2016 elections. Surprise! Surprise! |
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On 11/6/2013 7:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 7:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I got the impression that the Virginia governer's race was considered by many to be something of a "bell weather" for the elections in 2014 and 2016. Cuccinelli being rejected in Virginia might signal a general rejection of ultra-right wingers including the Tea Party. That may be so, but apparently the contest was much closer than many Democrats predicted or were hoping for. I still think there should be some limits on how much money the national DNC or RNC can finance state level election candidates. Uncontrolled, I can see the possibility of some serious manipulations that include national level elections. I don't see much connection between last night's results in Virginia and the 2014 or 2016 elections. The Alabama race, though, was interesting in that Bradley Byrne, a lawyer and former state senator, beat a really nutso teabagger and won the right to be the GOP candidate for a House special election. It's good for America when teabaggers get their hats handed to them...they have no interest in government, progress, or womens' rights. Perhaps you don't see any connection between the Virginia contest and future elections but virtually all the "progressive" media did. It's all people like Rachael Maddow, O'Donnell, etc., crowed about. |
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On 11/6/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 7:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I got the impression that the Virginia governer's race was considered by many to be something of a "bell weather" for the elections in 2014 and 2016. Cuccinelli being rejected in Virginia might signal a general rejection of ultra-right wingers including the Tea Party. That may be so, but apparently the contest was much closer than many Democrats predicted or were hoping for. I still think there should be some limits on how much money the national DNC or RNC can finance state level election candidates. Uncontrolled, I can see the possibility of some serious manipulations that include national level elections. I don't see much connection between last night's results in Virginia and the 2014 or 2016 elections. The Alabama race, though, was interesting in that Bradley Byrne, a lawyer and former state senator, beat a really nutso teabagger and won the right to be the GOP candidate for a House special election. It's good for America when teabaggers get their hats handed to them...they have no interest in government, progress, or womens' rights. Perhaps you don't see any connection between the Virginia contest and future elections but virtually all the "progressive" media did. It's all people like Rachael Maddow, O'Donnell, etc., crowed about. I don't need to fill airtime. :) -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/13, 10:00 AM, Charlemagne wrote:
OK, no "proved" voter fraud but definately, easy to prove voter supression which is just as effective... Remember, 254 of 500 conservative groups that were stopped in their tracks leading up the the 2012 election were *in Ohio*, mostly voter registration and especially groups that would bring folks to the polls... I'm sure your "proof" of the suppression of conservative voters in Ohio as you allege here is of the same quality as your claims of voter fraud in Pennsylvania. In other words, pure, unadulterated bull****. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 7:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I got the impression that the Virginia governer's race was considered by many to be something of a "bell weather" for the elections in 2014 and 2016. Cuccinelli being rejected in Virginia might signal a general rejection of ultra-right wingers including the Tea Party. That may be so, but apparently the contest was much closer than many Democrats predicted or were hoping for. I still think there should be some limits on how much money the national DNC or RNC can finance state level election candidates. Uncontrolled, I can see the possibility of some serious manipulations that include national level elections. I don't see much connection between last night's results in Virginia and the 2014 or 2016 elections. The Alabama race, though, was interesting in that Bradley Byrne, a lawyer and former state senator, beat a really nutso teabagger and won the right to be the GOP candidate for a House special election. It's good for America when teabaggers get their hats handed to them...they have no interest in government, progress, or womens' rights. Perhaps you don't see any connection between the Virginia contest and future elections but virtually all the "progressive" media did. It's all people like Rachael Maddow, O'Donnell, etc., crowed about. Be that as it may, to me the Virginia race had some funny moments. My favorite was when Cuccinelli brought in Ron Paul to stump for him, and Paul pushed the idea of "nullification" of any federal laws individual states don't like. Great idea to push in the state that was the home of the Confederacy. I'm still trying to decide which political family is crazier...Ron and Randy Paul or Ted Cruz and Daddy Cruz. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 10:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 10:00 AM, Charlemagne wrote: OK, no "proved" voter fraud but definately, easy to prove voter supression which is just as effective... Remember, 254 of 500 conservative groups that were stopped in their tracks leading up the the 2012 election were *in Ohio*, mostly voter registration and especially groups that would bring folks to the polls... I'm sure your "proof" of the suppression of conservative voters in Ohio as you allege here is of the same quality as your claims of voter fraud in Pennsylvania. In other words, pure, unadulterated bull****. Not to worry. You're a bigger bull****ter than Scott ever was. |
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 20:08:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:48:07 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/5/13, 9:44 PM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: MSNBC and FOX project McCauliffe the winner of the Virginia gubernatorial race. Oh, no doubt that he probably will win but the margin will be really slim. Sure is. Most prognosticators were calling a 5-6 point margin. Looks like the margin might only be 2 points or so. Cuccinelli was a real horror story but obviously appealing to large numbers of Virginians. If he'd be that big of a horror story I'd think he'd lose by a cliff drop. Cuccinelli was a horror story. McCauliffe is a scarier horror story. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 11/6/2013 2:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Sure. Ok. Right. I'm going to spend time looking for 10-year-old source material. I told you...I remember the reports. I didn't copy them down. Maybe your 7th grade buddy in Florida can provide a few insults to move the process along. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. I tell the truth. If you want to call it insults, I really don't give a damn. ;-) |
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On 11/6/2013 12:06 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Rockefeller's informal summary of the Committee's findings was a strong endorsement of the liberal "Bush lied us into war" mantra. Only problem is, the details of his own report do not back up his assertion, nor the narrative liberals have adopted. The report contends that every claim and statement made by administration officials, including GW Bush during the buildup to the war was "substantiated" by available intelligence reports at the time. Except that the intel was "cooked..." ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY. You're worse than Scotty. Classic case of repeating something often enough to the point where people actually believe it. They usually can't prove it and often can't remember where they first heard it. But, if it fits their agenda, why not go for it? |
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On 11/6/13, 2:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:06 PM, Hank© wrote: On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Rockefeller's informal summary of the Committee's findings was a strong endorsement of the liberal "Bush lied us into war" mantra. Only problem is, the details of his own report do not back up his assertion, nor the narrative liberals have adopted. The report contends that every claim and statement made by administration officials, including GW Bush during the buildup to the war was "substantiated" by available intelligence reports at the time. Except that the intel was "cooked..." ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY. You're worse than Scotty. Classic case of repeating something often enough to the point where people actually believe it. They usually can't prove it and often can't remember where they first heard it. But, if it fits their agenda, why not go for it? It was what, a decade ago? Why would I remember precisely where I heard or saw reports that Bush et al cooked the intel? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 2:30 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 2:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 12:06 PM, Hank© wrote: On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Rockefeller's informal summary of the Committee's findings was a strong endorsement of the liberal "Bush lied us into war" mantra. Only problem is, the details of his own report do not back up his assertion, nor the narrative liberals have adopted. The report contends that every claim and statement made by administration officials, including GW Bush during the buildup to the war was "substantiated" by available intelligence reports at the time. Except that the intel was "cooked..." ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY. You're worse than Scotty. Classic case of repeating something often enough to the point where people actually believe it. They usually can't prove it and often can't remember where they first heard it. But, if it fits their agenda, why not go for it? It was what, a decade ago? Why would I remember precisely where I heard or saw reports that Bush et al cooked the intel? Because as someone who constantly accuses Bush of "Lying", you should be able to remember why you believe that. You just joined the bandwagon. |
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On 11/6/13, 3:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 2:30 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 2:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 12:06 PM, Hank© wrote: On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Rockefeller's informal summary of the Committee's findings was a strong endorsement of the liberal "Bush lied us into war" mantra. Only problem is, the details of his own report do not back up his assertion, nor the narrative liberals have adopted. The report contends that every claim and statement made by administration officials, including GW Bush during the buildup to the war was "substantiated" by available intelligence reports at the time. Except that the intel was "cooked..." ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY. You're worse than Scotty. Classic case of repeating something often enough to the point where people actually believe it. They usually can't prove it and often can't remember where they first heard it. But, if it fits their agenda, why not go for it? It was what, a decade ago? Why would I remember precisely where I heard or saw reports that Bush et al cooked the intel? Because as someone who constantly accuses Bush of "Lying", you should be able to remember why you believe that. You just joined the bandwagon. Yeah, sure. Whatever. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 3:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Bush lied us into war. Your attempts to resuscitate his reputation are humorous. Glad you find some humor in my attempts. This will never go anywhere, so we'll just have to agree to disagree ... probably forever. I just dislike seeing anyone's reputation or best efforts destroyed simply for political purposes. I think that's about the worst thing a person can do to another. If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. |
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On 11/6/13, 4:14 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Don't get me wrong...I am enjoying your efforts to resuscitate the reputation of George W. Bush, the worst president in the memory of anyone living. :) Given your expressed disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country (basically anything south or west of Maryland) your general background and experiences and admiration for the halls of academia, I can understand completely why GW Bush could never appeal to you. I suspect some residual resentment would exist even if he were a Democrat. George W. Bush was born in the same hospital I was, and he prepped and attended colleges in New England. He's no more a Texan than I am. Oh, and I made GOTV phone calls for his grandfather, Prescott, who was a U.S. Senator from Connecticut. I got my B.A. degree west of Maryland, and lived in Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, Michigan, New York and Virginia, and later in Florida and Maryland. I had great times out west and in West Virginia, all places west of Maryland. There goes your theory alleging my disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country. I admit to not liking the culture of Texas, where I encountered my first "Whites Only" drinking fountains, and Mississippi and the rest of the segregated south. The first time I was shot at it was in Mississippi, and by a typical bunch of white racists. I even knew the name of the guy who did the shooting, but that's another story. George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted for him. I have no idea what sort of president Gore might have made, had the Supremes not stolen the election for him. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 3:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Bush lied us into war. Your attempts to resuscitate his reputation are humorous. Glad you find some humor in my attempts. This will never go anywhere, so we'll just have to agree to disagree ... probably forever. I just dislike seeing anyone's reputation or best efforts destroyed simply for political purposes. I think that's about the worst thing a person can do to another. If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 5:32 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted for him. Wow. That's quite a statement. It includes the majority of the population. |
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On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. |
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On 11/6/13, 5:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:32 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted for him. Wow. That's quite a statement. It includes the majority of the population. No, it doesn't. And in his first run for the presidency, he lost the popular vote. Hey, even today, a goodly percentage of voters are tea baggers. I mean, really, stupidity is not a disqualification for voting. In this newsgroup, PsychoSnotty can vote. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. |
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On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. :) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood Dubya. Love it. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 8:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. :) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood Dubya. Love it. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. |
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On 11/6/13, 8:05 PM, Charlemagne wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. Besides, he is doing plenty for vets, etc... and comes out when he's called on too. He just doesn't turn each and every event into a photo op, like the Clintons... If Dubya Bush were doing anything of consequence with any frequency, it would be reported. It is impossible these days for ex-presidents to maintain a nearly "no profile" unless they are doing virtually nothing of consequence. Bush has been out of office for more than four years. What "plenty" has he done for veterans? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/13, 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 8:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. :) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood Dubya. Love it. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. I think you are overequipped intellectually for the job. You need to start up a new business. :) -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 11/6/2013 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2013 8:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 7:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:51 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 5:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 5:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: If nothing else, you'd have to agree that in his "retirement", GW Bush has conducted himself with dignity and has shown respect for the trials and tribulations of the current president. I think Bush has been decent in his retirement. It's amazing to me he's done virtually nothing since leaving office. You should be grateful. Many think he has done quite enough. It's his intellectual laziness, I think. All the living former presidents and Gerry Ford and Ronald Reagan were active and involved citizens. Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Clinton are all visible and active. Some people love the limelight and interacting with others. (Bill Clinton is a perfect example.) Some don't. You make it sound like people have some sort of obligation to spend their retirement in a manner that is acceptable or approved by you. They don't. :) You're really working overtime here to rehab poor misunderstood Dubya. Love it. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. I should point out that I have no particular affinity for GW Bush. I just think he has received a raw deal by some on the left with accusations for deeds for which there is no proof, only "accusations" and assumptions. I think he did his best as he saw it to protect the country after 9/11. I also think events that occurred during his terms as POTUS still weigh heavily on his mind. |
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On 11/6/2013 8:19 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/6/13, 8:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. I think you are overequipped intellectually for the job. You need to start up a new business. :) Heh. 15, 20 years ago, no problem. Now-a-days? Forget about it. Too many rules, regulations, reports and other requirements totally unrelated to what your core business requirements are. The business I started back in 1989 initially had three employees (including me) and a part time accountant. Over time it grew but it was because I was able to focus on the technology, not on a bunch of unrelated, non productive issues. I was happy to sell it when it got to the point where I could no longer do what I did best ... or at least enjoyed the most. To start up the same business today I'd need to start out with a cast of thousands and a healthy line of financing. No thanks. Things have changed a lot. Details, but time consuming and have costs associated with them. I don't envy those trying to get a start-up going today. |
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On 11/7/2013 8:16 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:32:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 11/6/13, 4:14 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Don't get me wrong...I am enjoying your efforts to resuscitate the reputation of George W. Bush, the worst president in the memory of anyone living. :) Given your expressed disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country (basically anything south or west of Maryland) your general background and experiences and admiration for the halls of academia, I can understand completely why GW Bush could never appeal to you. I suspect some residual resentment would exist even if he were a Democrat. George W. Bush was born in the same hospital I was, and he prepped and attended colleges in New England. He's no more a Texan than I am. Oh, and I made GOTV phone calls for his grandfather, Prescott, who was a U.S. Senator from Connecticut. I got my B.A. degree west of Maryland, and lived in Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, Michigan, New York and Virginia, and later in Florida and Maryland. I had great times out west and in West Virginia, all places west of Maryland. There goes your theory alleging my disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country. I admit to not liking the culture of Texas, where I encountered my first "Whites Only" drinking fountains, and Mississippi and the rest of the segregated south. The first time I was shot at it was in Mississippi, and by a typical bunch of white racists. I even knew the name of the guy who did the shooting, but that's another story. George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted for him. I have no idea what sort of president Gore might have made, had the Supremes not stolen the election for him. You're our hero, Krause. There are folks here who absolutely adore you. I can think of two. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! He got his education west of Maryland. Snerk. That would be cow flap Kansas; the home of some of the country's finest institutes of learning. -- "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that, 'the buck stops here.' America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." BHO (From 2006,when he sometimes told the truth) |
McCauliffe projected winner...
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McCauliffe projected winner...
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:32:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/6/13, 4:14 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/6/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Don't get me wrong...I am enjoying your efforts to resuscitate the reputation of George W. Bush, the worst president in the memory of anyone living. :) Given your expressed disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country (basically anything south or west of Maryland) your general background and experiences and admiration for the halls of academia, I can understand completely why GW Bush could never appeal to you. I suspect some residual resentment would exist even if he were a Democrat. George W. Bush was born in the same hospital I was, and he prepped and attended colleges in New England. He's no more a Texan than I am. Oh, and I made GOTV phone calls for his grandfather, Prescott, who was a U.S. Senator from Connecticut. I got my B.A. degree west of Maryland, and lived in Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, Michigan, New York and Virginia, and later in Florida and Maryland. I had great times out west and in West Virginia, all places west of Maryland. There goes your theory alleging my disdain for the cultures of many parts of the country. I admit to not liking the culture of Texas, where I encountered my first "Whites Only" drinking fountains, and Mississippi and the rest of the segregated south. The first time I was shot at it was in Mississippi, and by a typical bunch of white racists. I even knew the name of the guy who did the shooting, but that's another story. George W. Bush was a terrible governor and a worse president. That he won election only speaks to the culture and intellect of those who voted for him. I have no idea what sort of president Gore might have made, had the Supremes not stolen the election for him. You're our hero, Krause. There are folks here who absolutely adore you. I can think of two. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
McCauliffe projected winner...
On 11/7/2013 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
On 11/6/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "Mother Jones?" Aw, come on. You can do better than that. MOTHER JONES MAGAZINE (MJM) 222 Sutter St. - Suite 600 San Francisco, CA 94108 URL :http://www.motherjones.com Magazine named for socialist labor organizer Mary Harris "Mother" Jones Does investigative reporting that mostly targets corporations, capitalists, private property, and Republican officeholders On second thought ... don't bother. Not interested in getting into a five day debate. Please show me what in the article is wrong. You are pulling a Scotty now, negating the source but saying NOTHING of the facts in the article. I've stated my beliefs based upon two official (and lawful) Congressional investigations. The opinions written in liberal op-eds, anti-war blogs, and left leaning magazines are noteworthy but are based upon conjecture, speculation and theory and serve no legal purpose in terms of enforcing any laws. If it makes you feel good to recite the mantra, "Bush lied us into war", go for it. Not interested in a week's worth of bouncing ball BS with you. |
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