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Idiots...
On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote:
Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... |
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#43
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Idiots...
In article , says...
On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Yes, yes, we all know that your multi-million dollar company with the cut and paste website, and several thousand IT execs can handle it in a couple of hours...... snerk |
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#44
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Idiots...
In article om,
says... On 10/28/2013 2:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Gotta love it when the right-wing morons speculate. And the right-winger whose tagline in usenet is an email virus-free warning? What a giggle. Actually dip****, it isn't a tag line. It was inserted by my antivirus program. Do you know how to make it stop, insertiting it, dip****? I'd be happy to stop it dip****, if I knew how to do it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Get a decent antivirus program. Problem solved. |
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#45
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Idiots...
On 10/28/13, 3:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 10/28/2013 2:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Gotta love it when the right-wing morons speculate. And the right-winger whose tagline in usenet is an email virus-free warning? What a giggle. Actually dip****, it isn't a tag line. It was inserted by my antivirus program. Do you know how to make it stop, insertiting it, dip****? I'd be happy to stop it dip****, if I knew how to do it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Get a decent antivirus program. Problem solved. There is a way to do it, and I know how to do it, but... ....there is no way I am going to offer help to a right-wing turd like FlaJim. There is a way to NOT insert that note into outgoing clean messages. (that was a hint) Let one of the other right-wing turds help him. I'm sure a first-class webmaster like PsychoSnotty can fix it for him. |
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#46
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Idiots...
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 834486942404673532.554122bmckeenospam- , says... Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Security issues. Same problem, get an A and do not worry about security. |
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#47
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Idiots...
Charlemagne wrote:
On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Did you even have a written Design and Verification plan? Part of my career was bioengineers devices, and we damn sure had written plans. We had to submit them as part of the approval process to the FDA. Should be a written plan for ACA website also. |
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#48
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Idiots...
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. |
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#50
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Idiots...
On 10/28/2013 5:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Did you even have a written Design and Verification plan? Part of my career was bioengineers devices, and we damn sure had written plans. We had to submit them as part of the approval process to the FDA. Should be a written plan for ACA website also. We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... |
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