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On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote:
Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... |
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In article , says...
On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Yes, yes, we all know that your multi-million dollar company with the cut and paste website, and several thousand IT execs can handle it in a couple of hours...... snerk |
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In article om,
says... On 10/28/2013 2:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Gotta love it when the right-wing morons speculate. And the right-winger whose tagline in usenet is an email virus-free warning? What a giggle. Actually dip****, it isn't a tag line. It was inserted by my antivirus program. Do you know how to make it stop, insertiting it, dip****? I'd be happy to stop it dip****, if I knew how to do it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Get a decent antivirus program. Problem solved. |
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On 10/28/13, 3:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 10/28/2013 2:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Gotta love it when the right-wing morons speculate. And the right-winger whose tagline in usenet is an email virus-free warning? What a giggle. Actually dip****, it isn't a tag line. It was inserted by my antivirus program. Do you know how to make it stop, insertiting it, dip****? I'd be happy to stop it dip****, if I knew how to do it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Get a decent antivirus program. Problem solved. There is a way to do it, and I know how to do it, but... ....there is no way I am going to offer help to a right-wing turd like FlaJim. There is a way to NOT insert that note into outgoing clean messages. (that was a hint) Let one of the other right-wing turds help him. I'm sure a first-class webmaster like PsychoSnotty can fix it for him. |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 834486942404673532.554122bmckeenospam- , says... Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Security issues. Same problem, get an A and do not worry about security. |
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Charlemagne wrote:
On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Did you even have a written Design and Verification plan? Part of my career was bioengineers devices, and we damn sure had written plans. We had to submit them as part of the approval process to the FDA. Should be a written plan for ACA website also. |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. |
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On 10/28/2013 5:55 PM, Califbill wrote:
Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Did you even have a written Design and Verification plan? Part of my career was bioengineers devices, and we damn sure had written plans. We had to submit them as part of the approval process to the FDA. Should be a written plan for ACA website also. We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... |
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On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote:
We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? |
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On 10/28/2013 7:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote: We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? We is "IDesigns" and the other programmers we worked with at the time... Me personally? Not that it is really important to the conversation but I did the part that the HHS can't seem to get right with this one:) Call it, logistics... I was the liaison between the different companies, us, and the other programmers, I was instrumental in testing and developing the initial architecture or general mapping of the site which many times meant changing structure and function right there in the middle of development... Why? |
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In article 486916217404689935.785507bmckeenospam-
, says... Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 1:24 PM, Califbill wrote: Charlemagne wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... Just lease the software from a company that has already written and debugged the software. Writing the software could maybe done for a million, but the testing and verification would take a lot more money and time. Was a problem with UNIX for years. Lots of the drivers were written as college papers. They did not handle exceptions well, if at all. Those are harder to test. Yes, verification is really the hardest part we ever faced taking input... Either way, you have 50 companies in on this that don't necessarily talk to each other... Did you even have a written Design and Verification plan? Part of my career was bioengineers devices, and we damn sure had written plans. We had to submit them as part of the approval process to the FDA. Should be a written plan for ACA website also. What Jawbone Scotty doesn't realize is that this is WAY over his head. The agency in charge has a budget bigger than the Pentagon! Yet Scotty thinks he can get their very complex site up and running using one of those cut and paste make your own website sites. |
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On 10/29/13, 7:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote: We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? iDesigns, you know, the one where the website is a cut and paste job from one of those make-your-own website sites. Much of the copy and photos were swiped from other sites, too. The site seems to be nothing more than a reseller of access. |
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In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. |
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says... In article , says... Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. The F-35 is needed to ensure that you have a country that enables the government to steal money from its citizens to pay for other citizens health care. You probably should move then. |
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On 10/29/13, 7:32 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/28/2013 7:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote: We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? We is "IDesigns" and the other programmers we worked with at the time... Me personally? Not that it is really important to the conversation but I did the part that the HHS can't seem to get right with this one:) Call it, logistics... I was the liaison between the different companies, us, and the other programmers, I was instrumental in testing and developing the initial architecture or general mapping of the site which many times meant changing structure and function right there in the middle of development... Why? Hooboy! Translation: PsychoSnotty took the lunch order, made the sandwiches, and delivered them. Logistics. |
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On 10/29/13, 7:35 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. The F-35 is needed to ensure that you have a country that enables the government to steal money from its citizens to pay for other citizens health care. You probably should move then. The F-35 is needed to assure defense contractors have a steady stream of cost overruns they can bill and military officers have billets. The money would better be spent on building roads, bridges, electrical grids, sewage systems in this country. |
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L'l Snottie preparing food??
Any reports of food poisoning? |
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:40:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/29/13, 7:35 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. The F-35 is needed to ensure that you have a country that enables the government to steal money from its citizens to pay for other citizens health care. You probably should move then. The F-35 is needed to assure defense contractors have a steady stream of cost overruns they can bill and military officers have billets. The money would better be spent on building roads, bridges, electrical grids, sewage systems in this country. It's difficult, but I'd have to agree with that last sentence. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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In article , says...
On 10/29/13, 7:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote: We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? iDesigns, you know, the one where the website is a cut and paste job from one of those make-your-own website sites. Much of the copy and photos were swiped from other sites, too. The site seems to be nothing more than a reseller of access. Next he'll be telling us his "company" works closely with some of the best in the world! He's programmed for google, yahoo, etc.! |
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On 10/28/2013 10:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The programmer knew nothing about thin films or vacuum deposition technology, so I'd interpret what the operator did to him What did the operator do to him? ;-) |
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On 10/29/2013 7:34 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/29/13, 7:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 7:30 PM, Charlemagne wrote: We had to do a lot of different paperwork when we were contracted to the State College... Lot's of federal hoops to jump through. Every contract was different. The huge one we did for Prudential, our "design and verification plan" was a working module. We had to write it to sell it, it was a huge risk for sure.... Who is "we"? You have acknowledged that you are not a programmer. What role did you play in the execution of these contracts? iDesigns, you know, the one where the website is a cut and paste job from one of those make-your-own website sites. Much of the copy and photos were swiped from other sites, too. The site seems to be nothing more than a reseller of access. The web sites you create are what? More owl stories? |
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On 10/29/2013 8:17 AM, True North wrote:
L'l Snottie preparing food?? Any reports of food poisoning? How tall are you? Lil man. |
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On 10/29/2013 10:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 10:05:17 UTC-3, Hank© wrote: On 10/29/2013 8:17 AM, True North wrote: L'l Snottie preparing food?? Any reports of food poisoning? How tall are you? Lil man. Taller than your BFF. How tall is that, Mr. Popeye lookalike? |
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On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 10:05:17 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 10/29/2013 8:17 AM, True North wrote: L'l Snottie preparing food?? Any reports of food poisoning? How tall are you? Lil man. Taller than your BFF. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/29/13, 7:35 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. The F-35 is needed to ensure that you have a country that enables the government to steal money from its citizens to pay for other citizens health care. You probably should move then. The F-35 is needed to assure defense contractors have a steady stream of cost overruns they can bill and military officers have billets. The money would better be spent on building roads, bridges, electrical grids, sewage systems in this country. The money would be better not spent on Federal government programs. Why should Federal money be used for mostly local and state projects? |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. |
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In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? |
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:17:43 AM UTC-4, True North wrote:
L'l Snottie preparing food?? Any reports of food poisoning? What will YOU have as your last meal, ass****?? |
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:39:29 AM UTC-4, Hank© wrote:
How tall is that, Mr. Popeye lookalike? I will pay for that picture..... |
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In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. Not major CAD. |
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In article 695749085404838580.214861bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. Not major CAD. Horse****! |
Idiots...
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 695749085404838580.214861bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: HankĀ© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. Not major CAD. Horse****! Bull**** yourself. They are running PCs but not windows. Mostly UNIX based systems. |
Idiots...
In article 806766116404844665.516508bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 695749085404838580.214861bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. Not major CAD. Horse****! Bull**** yourself. They are running PCs but not windows. Mostly UNIX based systems. You stupid fool! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...design_editors |
Idiots...
On 10/30/13, 1:15 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 806766116404844665.516508bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 695749085404838580.214861bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2062315766404769488.322548bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1391042605404757489.225043bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 484707262404689651.841306bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1925679223404673696.334240bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/28/2013 12:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Hank© wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/28/13, 7:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/27/2013 3:13 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Let?s see? $350 million or so spent on health insurance exchange spftware that isn't working properly yet and the Republicans are losing their minds. But?$400 Billion spent on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that doesn?t work and no one seems to need, and the Republicans don?t say a word. HUGE difference. Developing and prototyping a Military Fighter is nothing like writing a simple database... especially when you consider most if not all of the code is out there already, just needs to be compiled... A very dedicated high school student could probably write the site as a senior project in a couple semesters.... snerk If you look at PsychoSnotty's "iDesign" pages, you'll think a junior high school designed and programmed them. How do we know that Harry Krause could do any better than a junior high school designer/programmer? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com These days, probably not as well. Kids these days never seem to come outdoors and play, so they must be doing a lot of compute ring. Our public website is a billboard... Most of the hard core "design" we did in the past revolved around making different systems and languages "talk" to each other... Here's the deal.. I will stipulate that "one week and ten grand" was a wild exaggeration for effect, but I made my point. If you understand that most of the problem with the ACA website was that too many different companies "shared the wealth".. (Probably half the money went to the paperwork you need to fill out to write a website for a local college for **** sake....) The problem was, too many companies, with different operating proceedures and structures for building a site, it was a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth". If one company had taken a team and written the thing, I still submit it could be done for a million or two.... probably less... You just have to get by the source here, and look at the facts... The fact is, the project was so splintered, it never stood a chance... That is so stupid it's beyond belief!! Just what you describe is done all of the time, all over the world! Not stupid beyond belief. Is why we have a lot of bloated bad software. Write a " hello, world " program for windows and just see how big the program is. All the class defining, windows subroutine calling. Why you now require a gigahertz speed, terabyte drive to run a home computer and get any throughput. Oh horse****! Windows is bloated because most people didn't know how to run a computer until they could click on a picture with a mouse. GUI it's of disk space. takes the computing power. Bull****. PARC developed the GUI and they ran on XTs. Go back to the original MAC and Windows GUIs and tell me how they did it without 2 gigs of memory and 500 g. The ultimate GUI is most of the shooter up games. Nowhere near the relative memory required to run WORD. Sure it ran on XT's THEN, when it was a small, mostly useless program. BS. How much more does the newest iMac do than a 1987 Mackintosh? The software is bloated because of the tools and the equipment. Nobody in the PC world worries about memory or storage. I did years of embedded system design and programming. We were limited to amount of memory and a requirement for speed. We had problems with new graduates coming in and not using the most efficient commands. In the 1960's / 1970's bank online mainframe systems had anywhere from 40k to at the max 8 megabyte of memory. That included IBM 303x systems. Sure the newer stuff is faster, and if you look at games, those programmers are some of the better ones. They have to program for speed. No one will buy a jerky screen update. If it weren't for the demands of th GUI, you'd not have "jerky screen updates". Also, other programs are getting more and more demanding. 3D BIM modeling is a perfect example. How many home PCs are running 3D BIM. Modeling? Quite a few. How many business are running a Windows machine for CAD design? Millions upon millions. Not major CAD. Horse****! Bull**** yourself. They are running PCs but not windows. Mostly UNIX based systems. You stupid fool! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...design_editors Sometime in the early 1980s, I had a client in Virginia who developed and was marketing a pretty sophisticated CADD program for architects. It ran on IBM PC type machines. There were also a couple of pretty sophisticated engineering CAD programs out there for PCs. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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