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Our war against Iraq, started in earnest by George W. Bush, has produced some 500,000 casualties to date. How many have died in Syria *due* to our involvement there? None. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Oh, and Russia and Syria are paying for the destruction of Syria's WMDs. |
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:58:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
Interesting… Our war against Iraq, started in earnest by George W. Bush, has produced some 500,000 casualties to date. How many have died in Syria *due* to our involvement there? None. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Oh, and Russia and Syria are paying for the destruction of Syria's WMDs. B..b..bu...bu...butt Benghazi! |
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On 10/16/2013 2:58 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Interesting… Our war against Iraq, started in earnest by George W. Bush, has produced some 500,000 casualties to date. How many have died in Syria *due* to our involvement there? None. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Oh, and Russia and Syria are paying for the destruction of Syria's WMDs. Maybe the Syrians thought Republicans and Democrats WERE the same, so, rather than lose 500,000 people, they gave up there WMDs. Do you think they just decided to be nice? Do you think maybe the leader thought a drone could arrive any day? Mikek btw, I don't believe they will give up all WMDs. Saving them for a rainy day. |
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On 10/18/13, 2:43 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:58:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Interesting… Our war against Iraq, started in earnest by George W. Bush, has produced some 500,000 casualties to date. How many have died in Syria *due* to our involvement there? None. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Oh, and Russia and Syria are paying for the destruction of Syria's WMDs. B..b..bu...bu...butt Benghazi! Oh, of course. |
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:58:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Interesting? Our war against Iraq, started in earnest by George W. Bush, has produced some 500,000 casualties to date. How many have died in Syria *due* to our involvement there? None. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Oh, and Russia and Syria are paying for the destruction of Syria's WMDs. B..b..bu...bu...butt Benghazi! http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/17...etreat-podium- over-damning-benghazi-questions The White House got its ass handed to it yesterday. |
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:52:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/19/13, 11:27 AM, wrote: I agree but the only people in politics who do are the Libertarians. You can't talk about the budget and ignore the $800 billion we give DoD. There are no Libertarians holding national political office or even the governor's mansion in any state. The self-described Libertarians who hold such offices run as what they are...Republicans. That may be the perception but real libertarians also support "choice", the end of the drug war and the end of stupid foreign wars where we have no real national interest. That separates them from the GOP. Name the real libertarians who hold national political office or a statehouse who ran as libertarians and not republicans. |
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On 19 Oct 2013 20:54:37 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:52:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/19/13, 11:27 AM, wrote: I agree but the only people in politics who do are the Libertarians. You can't talk about the budget and ignore the $800 billion we give DoD. There are no Libertarians holding national political office or even the governor's mansion in any state. The self-described Libertarians who hold such offices run as what they are...Republicans. That may be the perception but real libertarians also support "choice", the end of the drug war and the end of stupid foreign wars where we have no real national interest. That separates them from the GOP. Name the real libertarians who hold national political office or a statehouse who ran as libertarians and not republicans. As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. |
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wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 20:54:37 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:52:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/19/13, 11:27 AM, wrote: I agree but the only people in politics who do are the Libertarians. You can't talk about the budget and ignore the $800 billion we give DoD. There are no Libertarians holding national political office or even the governor's mansion in any state. The self-described Libertarians who hold such offices run as what they are...Republicans. That may be the perception but real libertarians also support "choice", the end of the drug war and the end of stupid foreign wars where we have no real national interest. That separates them from the GOP. Name the real libertarians who hold national political office or a statehouse who ran as libertarians and not republicans. As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. You get it for free, or at least another bunch of trillions in debt. |
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says... On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. I remember hearing that bull**** about mortgaging our children's future when I was a child! |
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On 10/20/13, 1:21 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. Greg apparently believes that old people should be shoved to the curb so the soylent green truck can scoop them up. |
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On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? |
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:10:04 -0500, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? ~~crickets~~ John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare |
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On 10/20/13, 5:00 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare Oh, and Given Bush and his insanely expensive wars, that we will be paying for for generations to come, the only possible response a sensible person need ever give, when a GOPer/TeaBagger says anything about "deficits", is a polite snicker. |
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On 10/20/2013 5:00 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare get deadbeats to pay their back taxes Get deadbeats to pay their current taxes |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare Who pays those corporate taxes? What is really unearned income? I saved and invested that money, and my qualified dividends are taxed about 50%. The corporation was taxed around 40% on that money before they sent it to me! to be taxed again. Employer SS taxes are just part of the compensation package. Raise the rate, less money for the employee. Yes we should cut military spending. Get most of the troops out of Europe. They can supply their own protection. Get out of the Middle East. Forget the f'n nation building. Someone attacks us, just destroy most of their infrastructure. Other than cutting military spending, and raising taxes, you have little in your plan to put spending and revenue in balance. ACA should remove Medicaid. How about legalizing most drugs and taxing them. Let those who are pretty worthless in life, cheaply kill themselves with drugs. Save billions in police costs, billions in welfare. Reduce over population ;) |
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On 10/20/2013 5:00 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. You can't be serious. This country took a turn to port back in the 1960's and the helm hasn't been centered since. In 1960 less than a third of federal revenues were transferred to individuals in the form of entitlement programs. By 2010 well over two thirds of revenues were spent on entitlements to individuals. The recent antics of the Tea Party fellowship doesn't change that. We are spending ourselves into bankruptcy (or already have) applying decreasing sources of revenues to pay for ever increasing payouts for entitlement programs. It's self defeating and, like Greg mentioned, when the world says "enough", the **** will really hit the fan. One thing is for sure. A change in course has to be done gradually. There's too much inertia in the US economy to allow for sudden changes. Spending for military and defense programs needs to be reduced over years with a well thought out plan and objective. To suddenly cut back will cause more problems than it cures. Same with all other programs. An honest evaluation needs to be done in terms of their effectiveness and a plan to curb continued growth that will span several administrations needs to be applied. The problem is that politicians get elected by making promises we can't afford. |
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On 10/21/13, 7:13 AM, True North wrote:
Slammer flagged for being a useless asshole. I don't know why you even bother to read the crap that Slammer, FlaJim, Herring, and the rest of the assholes drop here, let alone respond to it. |
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I should know better but some here remind me of the winos that infested the downtown area I grew up in...always talking tough when they had a bellyfull of alcohol.
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On 10/21/2013 7:43 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/21/13, 7:13 AM, True North wrote: Slammer flagged for being a useless asshole. I don't know why you even bother to read the crap that Slammer, FlaJim, Herring, and the rest of the assholes drop here, let alone respond to it. As dumb as Donnie is he is a bit more broad minded and less bigoted than you. |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 10/21/2013 9:55 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Generates more tax revenue as well. |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:59:32 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 10/21/2013 9:55 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Generates more tax revenue as well. Reduces welfare-inspired pregnancies also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 10/21/2013 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:59:32 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 10/21/2013 9:55 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Generates more tax revenue as well. Reduces welfare-inspired pregnancies also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! There are so many pluses to working for a living. I wonder why O'Bama doesn't encourage it? |
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says... On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:59:32 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 10/21/2013 9:55 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Generates more tax revenue as well. Reduces welfare-inspired pregnancies also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Wait, welfare inspires pregnancy?? Are you serious? Do you think that people have kids just to get a stipend that is way below poverty level?? Does everyone on welfare do that? |
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says... On 10/21/2013 10:09 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:59:32 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 10/21/2013 9:55 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Generates more tax revenue as well. Reduces welfare-inspired pregnancies also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! There are so many pluses to working for a living. I wonder why O'Bama doesn't encourage it? Please tell that to Scotty. |
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On 10/21/2013 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:30:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:38:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Wait, welfare inspires pregnancy?? Are you serious? Do you think that people have kids just to get a stipend that is way below poverty level?? Does everyone on welfare do that? There are certainly some who do. Once they are in the system, it s a trap that is hard to get out of. They have very little incentive not to have more dependents. Let's see, they have a kid, and that kid costs X amount to live, the government gives them 1/2X in the form of food stamps and welfare..... So, just how is that working out? That assumes the people actually take care of the kids properly. A lot of these kids only get a decent meal in school. (breakfast and lunch). Dinner may be a bowl of Ramen because mom smoked up her EBT money Like most of these social programs, the results are based on euphoric fantasy too..... |
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On 10/21/2013 12:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:30:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:38:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Wait, welfare inspires pregnancy?? Are you serious? Do you think that people have kids just to get a stipend that is way below poverty level?? Does everyone on welfare do that? There are certainly some who do. Once they are in the system, it s a trap that is hard to get out of. They have very little incentive not to have more dependents. Let's see, they have a kid, and that kid costs X amount to live, the government gives them 1/2X in the form of food stamps and welfare..... So, just how is that working out? That assumes the people actually take care of the kids properly. A lot of these kids only get a decent meal in school. (breakfast and lunch). Dinner may be a bowl of Ramen because mom smoked up her EBT money Like most of these social programs, the results are based on euphoric fantasy too..... Such as? |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:36:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 10/21/2013 7:43 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/21/13, 7:13 AM, True North wrote: Slammer flagged for being a useless asshole. I don't know why you even bother to read the crap that Slammer, FlaJim, Herring, and the rest of the assholes drop here, let alone respond to it. As dumb as Donnie is he is a bit more broad minded and less bigoted than you. Hey, John, is this more of that "social behavior" you want here? Or is that just for those who don't agree with your politics and bigotry? One step at a time, sweet Kevin. Right now I'm trying for civil discourse between Don and I. After that, perhaps I'll make you the same offer. Are you man enough to accept? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:17:36 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:55:07 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:01:59 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:21:58 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. I have been banking mine too. My plan was to have enough to build a new boat but I am far beyond that now. I am raiding it this month to build a bump out in my screen cage with an Ipe deck but I still have plenty left over. Now you're talking. That's the way wealth should be redistributed. Buy stuff or pay people to work. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! I had a couple of my "union" Mexicans over the other day to wheel 2 yards of concrete for my footers. The deal was $50 each for about 2 hour's work and I tossed them an extra $25 each because they did a good job. Wealth distribution at its finest. I'm soon going to distribute some wealth to get decent grass growing in my back yard. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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