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F.O.A.D. October 9th 13 01:56 AM

From my friend...
 
....Jim Beaver:

You can go back through American history and find thousands of examples
of laws that were passed when one party or another controlled Congress,
and which the other party opposed vigorously but without enough votes.
But you do NOT find thousands or hundreds or even tens of examples of
parties holding the government hostage until they get their way, a way
their votes couldn't achieve. No, I do not expect the Republicans not to
push back. Of course, they should, if that's how they feel. But do so in
the manner in which laws have always been changed: by getting enough
votes that agree with you. What's going on now is a spit in the face of
the very democracy and process of legislation those beloved Founding
Fathers set up. That's really all there is to it. Either we have a
democratic legislature in which you get your laws passed or repealed by
having enough votes to do so, or we have anything-goes anarchic
disruption. You can't have it both ways.

BAR[_2_] October 9th 13 01:00 PM

From my friend...
 
In article , says...

...Jim Beaver:

You can go back through American history and find thousands of examples
of laws that were passed when one party or another controlled Congress,
and which the other party opposed vigorously but without enough votes.
But you do NOT find thousands or hundreds or even tens of examples of
parties holding the government hostage until they get their way, a way
their votes couldn't achieve. No, I do not expect the Republicans not to
push back. Of course, they should, if that's how they feel. But do so in
the manner in which laws have always been changed: by getting enough
votes that agree with you. What's going on now is a spit in the face of
the very democracy and process of legislation those beloved Founding
Fathers set up. That's really all there is to it. Either we have a
democratic legislature in which you get your laws passed or repealed by
having enough votes to do so, or we have anything-goes anarchic
disruption. You can't have it both ways.


Congress is a throttle to the Executive branch and things are working as designed.

[email protected] October 9th 13 09:42 PM

From my friend...
 
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:56:26 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
You can't have it both ways.

The only " friends " you have here is Herpes Boy Dick, and cockhole White.


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