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John H[_2_] September 30th 13 06:09 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:21:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/30/13 11:58 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:53:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Hey I bought the overpriced insurance option. That is the free market
in action. They agreed to the risk in fact they aggressively sell it
with all of the "no matter what" language. I just try to get the peace
of mind that I paid for.


All that sort of behavior does is raise rates for everyone else. The
conservative approach.


That insurance option is pretty much pure profit for the rentacar
company, Someone needs to hold their feet to the fire. The reality is,
it has always been pure profit for them since I never wrecked a rental
car. I have brought them back real dirty but all the parts were there.

I doubt you ever buy that insurance so it doesn't even affect you.
Again you are bitching about something that has no effect on you and
is really none of your business.


My auto insurance, USAA, covers rental cars.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Califbill September 30th 13 06:28 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:21:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/30/13 11:58 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:53:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Hey I bought the overpriced insurance option. That is the free market
in action. They agreed to the risk in fact they aggressively sell it
with all of the "no matter what" language. I just try to get the peace
of mind that I paid for.


All that sort of behavior does is raise rates for everyone else. The
conservative approach.


That insurance option is pretty much pure profit for the rentacar
company, Someone needs to hold their feet to the fire. The reality is,
it has always been pure profit for them since I never wrecked a rental
car. I have brought them back real dirty but all the parts were there.

I doubt you ever buy that insurance so it doesn't even affect you.
Again you are bitching about something that has no effect on you and
is really none of your business.


My auto insurance, USAA, covers rental cars.


My credit card covers the deductibles. But only time I tried to collect,
was an extreme hassle. Luckily for cost, was Costa Rica, and the crunched
back door was only $175. Tree limb in the dark while backing up.

F.O.A.D. September 30th 13 08:27 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On 9/30/13 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:05:27 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Got flood insurance?


No.
Nor do I have "wind storm".
Both are a bad bet these days.

I have theft, fire and lawyer insurance.


To protect yourself from lawyers?

[email protected] September 30th 13 08:37 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On Monday, September 30, 2013 2:55:53 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:09:15 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:21:44 -0400, wrote:




On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




On 9/30/13 11:58 AM,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:53:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:






Hey I bought the overpriced insurance option. That is the free market


in action. They agreed to the risk in fact they aggressively sell it


with all of the "no matter what" language. I just try to get the peace


of mind that I paid for.






All that sort of behavior does is raise rates for everyone else. The


conservative approach.




That insurance option is pretty much pure profit for the rentacar


company, Someone needs to hold their feet to the fire. The reality is,


it has always been pure profit for them since I never wrecked a rental


car. I have brought them back real dirty but all the parts were there.




I doubt you ever buy that insurance so it doesn't even affect you.


Again you are bitching about something that has no effect on you and


is really none of your business.




My auto insurance, USAA, covers rental cars.




You would like to think so, and it will cover a car, up to the value

of the one you have insured. YMMV after that

If you don't have Collision and Comprehensive on your car, you don't

have it on a rental car. Also some companies will cap your insurance

at the blue book/replacemenmt cost on the car you are paying for if

you do.



The thing your insurance may not cover is "loss of use".

They will charge you the daily rental rate on a wrecked car until they

get it or it's replacement back on the lot.



That may also be true of your credit card backed insurance,



You really need to check with everyone involved before you assume

anything.



In the grand scheme of things, when we are on vacation, the extra $30

a day is chump change and takes all the worry about denting a rental

away.


Years ago on a business trip in Madison, Wisconsin in the winter, I came out to warm the rental car up and scrape the windows. Unlocked with the key and cranked the car, closed the door and scraped. Tried to open the door, LOCKED! Had to pay for the locksmith myself, then discovered the key didn't completely unlock the door, it just moved the lock slider (Pontiac) half way, and when you closed the door, it slid back to the locked position. Misadjusted and/or poor design. It didn't get locked the rest of the week.

It was fun in the ice and snow covered parking lots. Find an open area, get a little speed, whip the wheel and stomp the brakes. Not much of an opportunity to do that in the south.

Had a Ford 500 in Palm Springs a few years ago. 70mph on the interstate, car in front of me made a quick lane change, left me staring at a chunk of 6x6 that probably fell off a flatbed semi trailer. I had nowhere to go, so I straddled it. Sounded like an explosion under the car, looked back to see wood flying everywhere, so I coasted over to the side and got out to look around. I expected to see fluids running everywhere and stuff hanging down, but saw nothing. Got back in and carefully got back up to speed, it seemed OK. Drove it for three more days and turned it back in.

I'd never buy a rental car.

John H[_2_] September 30th 13 09:50 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:55:53 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:09:15 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:21:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/30/13 11:58 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:53:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Hey I bought the overpriced insurance option. That is the free market
in action. They agreed to the risk in fact they aggressively sell it
with all of the "no matter what" language. I just try to get the peace
of mind that I paid for.


All that sort of behavior does is raise rates for everyone else. The
conservative approach.

That insurance option is pretty much pure profit for the rentacar
company, Someone needs to hold their feet to the fire. The reality is,
it has always been pure profit for them since I never wrecked a rental
car. I have brought them back real dirty but all the parts were there.

I doubt you ever buy that insurance so it doesn't even affect you.
Again you are bitching about something that has no effect on you and
is really none of your business.


My auto insurance, USAA, covers rental cars.


You would like to think so, and it will cover a car, up to the value
of the one you have insured. YMMV after that
If you don't have Collision and Comprehensive on your car, you don't
have it on a rental car. Also some companies will cap your insurance
at the blue book/replacemenmt cost on the car you are paying for if
you do.

The thing your insurance may not cover is "loss of use".
They will charge you the daily rental rate on a wrecked car until they
get it or it's replacement back on the lot.

That may also be true of your credit card backed insurance,

You really need to check with everyone involved before you assume
anything.

In the grand scheme of things, when we are on vacation, the extra $30
a day is chump change and takes all the worry about denting a rental
away.


With the camper, I havent' had need of a rental car for lots of years. But, next time I need one,
I'll check with my insurance company beforehand. I'd probably not rent one that cost more than my
damn truck anyway!
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] October 1st 13 01:06 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
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says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on boat trailer brakes.


That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

Califbill October 1st 13 04:23 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on boat trailer brakes.


That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.


And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 1st 13 04:46 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.


And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.


You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Califbill October 1st 13 04:50 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.


And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.


You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.


Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 1st 13 06:19 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.


You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.


Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.


I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?

Califbill October 1st 13 08:02 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.


Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.


I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?


I read his post. Does he actually read what he posts or refers to? 1/2
the people or more in the states do not know most of the trailer laws.

Califbill October 1st 13 08:04 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.


Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.


I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?


An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 1st 13 08:09 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
In article 1895196902402346901.227305bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.


I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?


I read his post. Does he actually read what he posts or refers to? 1/2
the people or more in the states do not know most of the trailer laws.


Show me where he's wrong, then.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 1st 13 08:10 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.


I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?


An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.


Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.

Califbill October 1st 13 11:36 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?


An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.


Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.


All places seem to have similar laws.
http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS

Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#
in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it
is only 3300#.

True North[_2_] October 2nd 13 12:10 AM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:36:24 UTC-3, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote:

In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-


, says...




iBoaterer wrote:


In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-


, says...



iBoaterer wrote:


In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-


, says...



iBoaterer wrote:


In article ,


says...



On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North


wrote:




If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on


boat trailer brakes.




That doesn't change the law.




http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm



Don lives in Canada.




And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their


trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check


point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains


and brakes as required.




You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are


different from theirs.




Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.




I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?




An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for


brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid


reasoning.




Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is


irrelevant.




All places seem to have similar laws.

http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS



Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#

in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it

is only 3300#.


I hate to be drawn into this foolishness because it only adds fodder to the likes of Hankie, etc.
My rig weighs 1920 lbs.
I am legal to trailer without brakes.

Califbill October 2nd 13 05:10 AM

Try this in today's cars.
 
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:36:24 UTC-3, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote:

In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-


, says...




iBoaterer wrote:


In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-


, says...



iBoaterer wrote:


In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-


, says...



iBoaterer wrote:


In article ,


says...



On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North


wrote:




If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on


boat trailer brakes.




That doesn't change the law.




http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm



Don lives in Canada.




And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their


trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check


point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains


and brakes as required.




You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are


different from theirs.




Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.




I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?




An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for


brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid


reasoning.




Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is


irrelevant.




All places seem to have similar laws.

http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS



Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#

in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it

is only 3300#.


I hate to be drawn into this foolishness because it only adds fodder to
the likes of Hankie, etc.
My rig weighs 1920 lbs.
I am legal to trailer without brakes.


Is that boat and trailer, or just boat or trailer?

True North[_2_] October 2nd 13 12:29 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
I dropped into a provincial government official highway weigh station on the way home from picking up that boat from the Legend dealer June 2012.
Weight was for boat, trailer, 60 hp outboard and about half a tank of gas.
I went on the scale with rig and RAV4... Then unhooked rig and weighed RAV4 separately.
Difference is the towed weight.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 2nd 13 01:33 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
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, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?

An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.


Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.


All places seem to have similar laws.
http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS

Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#
in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it
is only 3300#.


He's already stated the weight of his rig and he doesn't need trailer
brakes.

Califbill October 2nd 13 06:12 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
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, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 327587060402333680.230404bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?

An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.

Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.


All places seem to have similar laws.
http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS

Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#
in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it
is only 3300#.


He's already stated the weight of his rig and he doesn't need trailer
brakes.


True. But I hear others say they just ignore the brakes not working on the
trailer. As salt water is bad and they will go bad again. Towing with a
Rav is marginal at best. 5000# towing? Hate to stop the muther in a panic
stop with 3000# behind. 1900# seems light for an 18' boat, trailer, unless
a really lightweight trailer, and a 60 hp motor. My tandem axle EZLoader
trailer weighed 1100# by itself.

Hank©[_3_] October 2nd 13 06:34 PM

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On 10/2/2013 1:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote:
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 728598659402347004.526456bmckeenospam-
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 593009133402335399.597221bmckeenospam-
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iBoaterer wrote:
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iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?

An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.

Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.

All places seem to have similar laws.
http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS

Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#
in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it
is only 3300#.


He's already stated the weight of his rig and he doesn't need trailer
brakes.


True. But I hear others say they just ignore the brakes not working on the
trailer. As salt water is bad and they will go bad again. Towing with a
Rav is marginal at best. 5000# towing? Hate to stop the muther in a panic
stop with 3000# behind. 1900# seems light for an 18' boat, trailer, unless
a really lightweight trailer, and a 60 hp motor. My tandem axle EZLoader
trailer weighed 1100# by itself.

Donnie wont spend a dime on safety gear to protect himself or others
unless he is forced to. That's just the way he is.

John H[_2_] October 2nd 13 06:56 PM

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On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:12:07 -0500, Califbill wrote:

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

If you had any brains you'd realize how hard salt water can be on
boat trailer brakes.

That doesn't change the law.

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Don lives in Canada.

And when I tow to Canada, I see that they are good at enforcing their
trailer laws. Coming off the ferry on Salt Spring Island, they had a check
point to check for valid registration and if trailers have safety chains
and brakes as required.

You miss the point, though. Our laws (that were posted by state) are
different from theirs.

Theirs are tougher. Don May need brakes under Canadian laws.

I take it you didn't read his post about the laws in his province, eh?

An 18' boat and trailer probably exceed 1500# which is the cut off for
brakes in Calif. Except here they do not include the boat. Stupid
reasoning.

Again, we are talking about laws in Don's province, so this is
irrelevant.

All places seem to have similar laws.
http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp#NS

Is his province. What does his boat, trailer and load in boat weigh? 3960#
in Nova Scotia - brakes required. Go over to Prince Edward Island, and it
is only 3300#.


He's already stated the weight of his rig and he doesn't need trailer
brakes.


True. But I hear others say they just ignore the brakes not working on the
trailer. As salt water is bad and they will go bad again. Towing with a
Rav is marginal at best. 5000# towing? Hate to stop the muther in a panic
stop with 3000# behind. 1900# seems light for an 18' boat, trailer, unless
a really lightweight trailer, and a 60 hp motor. My tandem axle EZLoader
trailer weighed 1100# by itself.


He's got a Highlander rated for 5000#'s. He's towing around 2000#, well within his limit. You might
have missed his getting the Highlander.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

True North[_2_] October 2nd 13 07:03 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
Good Lord..I have to spell everything out.
Had a RAV4 when I bought the 16.5 foot boat last year.
Upgraded to a 2013 Highlander with the 3.5 liter 6 cyl at the end of March 2013.
I'm legal!

Califbill October 2nd 13 07:53 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
True North wrote:
Good Lord..I have to spell everything out.
Had a RAV4 when I bought the 16.5 foot boat last year.
Upgraded to a 2013 Highlander with the 3.5 liter 6 cyl at the end of March 2013.
I'm legal!


Legal and safe are not inclusive. I towed my 4400# boat and trailer with a
Chevy S10 Blazer. 5000# towing rating. Had trailer brake failure, and
that rig was an asspucker to stop. My wife's Venza is a cross between a
Highlander and a Camry. Same 6 cylinder! and probably same brakes! maybe
bigger, and I would hate to tow a 3000# rig without brakes. 2000# is OK,
but stills seems ligh unless that is a really thin skin aluminum boat.

True North[_2_] October 2nd 13 09:15 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.

Hank©[_3_] October 2nd 13 10:11 PM

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On 10/2/2013 2:53 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Good Lord..I have to spell everything out.
Had a RAV4 when I bought the 16.5 foot boat last year.
Upgraded to a 2013 Highlander with the 3.5 liter 6 cyl at the end of March 2013.
I'm legal!


Legal and safe are not inclusive. I towed my 4400# boat and trailer with a
Chevy S10 Blazer. 5000# towing rating. Had trailer brake failure, and
that rig was an asspucker to stop. My wife's Venza is a cross between a
Highlander and a Camry. Same 6 cylinder! and probably same brakes! maybe
bigger, and I would hate to tow a 3000# rig without brakes. 2000# is OK,
but stills seems ligh unless that is a really thin skin aluminum boat.


Donnie's car is on a Camry chassis with Camry brakes. He appears to
think it's safe enough to tow a trailer without brakes. Maybe it is. Who
knows? maybe he should practice a few emergency stops and see if it
feels "safe enough".

Hank©[_3_] October 2nd 13 10:13 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On 10/2/2013 4:15 PM, True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.


Uh dummy. Similar boats have Similar thickness hulls. What is 100 gauge,
by the way?

Charlemagne October 2nd 13 10:36 PM

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On 10/2/2013 1:34 PM, Hank© wrote:


Donnie wont spend a dime on safety gear to protect himself or others
unless he is forced to. That's just the way he is.



Some folks are just selfish like that. I remember how hard he tried to
cheap out on the tow vehicle, but you all shamed him at least out of the
Rav4...

Charlemagne October 2nd 13 10:39 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On 10/2/2013 2:03 PM, True North wrote:
Good Lord..I have to spell everything out.
Had a RAV4 when I bought the 16.5 foot boat last year.
Upgraded to a 2013 Highlander with the 3.5 liter 6 cyl at the end of March 2013.
I'm legal!


Yes, we all remember the boys shaming you into upgrading...

Califbill October 2nd 13 11:07 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.


http://legendboats.com/boat/xcalibur...ibur-overview/

If this is your boat, says tow weight is 2542. Add any personnel stuff and
weight goes up.

True North[_2_] October 3rd 13 12:51 AM

Try this in today's cars.
 
Go back and look at the 16 Xcalibur.
Stated weight is with the largest motor.

iBoaterer[_3_] October 3rd 13 03:20 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
In article 1769452854402444050.512769bmckeenospam-
, says...

True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.


http://legendboats.com/boat/xcalibur...ibur-overview/

If this is your boat, says tow weight is 2542. Add any personnel stuff and
weight goes up.


You just aren't going to let it go, are you? He's legal, you can do what
you want with your boat, let him do what he wants with his.

John H[_2_] October 3rd 13 04:33 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:15:34 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls. Thicker than similar boats.


Better put a decimal point in front of the 100.

Califbill October 3rd 13 11:25 PM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1769452854402444050.512769bmckeenospam-
, says...

True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.


http://legendboats.com/boat/xcalibur...ibur-overview/

If this is your boat, says tow weight is 2542. Add any personnel stuff and
weight goes up.


You just aren't going to let it go, are you? He's legal, you can do what
you want with your boat, let him do what he wants with his.


I just want people to be able to stop their trailers when traffic stops! I
would hate to be hit by some idiot without enough brakes on the trailer or
tow vehicle. I see these tow ratings of 5000# or so one a lightweight,
underpowered tow vehicle. My S10 Blazer had that 5000# rating. It barely
stopped itself!

Hank©[_3_] October 4th 13 12:37 AM

Try this in today's cars.
 
On 10/3/2013 6:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1769452854402444050.512769bmckeenospam-
, says...

True North wrote:
Legend boats boast of 100 gauge aluminum hulls.
Thicker than similar boats.

http://legendboats.com/boat/xcalibur...ibur-overview/

If this is your boat, says tow weight is 2542. Add any personnel stuff and
weight goes up.


You just aren't going to let it go, are you? He's legal, you can do what
you want with your boat, let him do what he wants with his.


I just want people to be able to stop their trailers when traffic stops! I
would hate to be hit by some idiot without enough brakes on the trailer or
tow vehicle. I see these tow ratings of 5000# or so one a lightweight,
underpowered tow vehicle. My S10 Blazer had that 5000# rating. It barely
stopped itself!

Donnie has convinced himself that his car will stop an extra 2000 lb or
so without the benefit of trailer brakes. I sure hope he's right for
his wife's sake and the sake of those he shares the highway with. I
personally don't care if his boat decides to come through hie rear
window. Some folks are bent on getting their education from the school
of hard knocks.

Earl[_91_] October 4th 13 01:17 AM

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John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:50:34 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0

No problem in my AWD Cayenne.

Bull****. You wouldn't even drive that thing through a mud puddle, lest you get it a wee bit dirty.

The guy at my office building is very good at detailing!

Earl[_91_] October 4th 13 01:18 AM

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True North wrote:
On Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:50:34 UTC-3, Earl wrote:
John H wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0

No problem in my AWD Cayenne.


Thought you were the big shot with two BMWs.
Repo'd eh?

If I had two BMW that were repossessed how could I get a Porsche
Cayenne? I do have a Z4, too, if you really must know.

Earl[_91_] October 4th 13 01:20 AM

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John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 06:10:25 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:50:34 UTC-3, Earl wrote:
John H wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0
No problem in my AWD Cayenne.


Thought you were the big shot with two BMWs.
Repo'd eh?

It would take two BMWs to buy that Cayenne.

Not really. It would depend on the models of the two BMWs. They can
run from about $35K to well over $100K.

Earl[_91_] October 4th 13 01:22 AM

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John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Sunday, 29 September 2013 10:34:31 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 06:13:36 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Sunday, 29 September 2013 09:47:06 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:50:34 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0
No problem in my AWD Cayenne.
Bull****. You wouldn't even drive that thing through a mud puddle, lest you get it a wee bit dirty.
--
John H.
So, Ditzy Dan is another of those candy assed SUV drivers who just want to look the part... not actually soil their tires.


Why the bad behavior and name-calling?



When was the last time you took your Highlander for a little off-roading? Paved boat ramps don't

count.

John H.

Don't you read the literature on your vehicles, Johnny.
The Highlander isn't really meant for serious offroading.

You drive an SUV, but you don't do any off-roading. No one mentioned 'serious'. Wouldn't that make
you as much a 'candy ass' as Earl?

Do you think the Cayenne was designed for 'serious off-roading'?

True. Even the new Jeep Grand Cherokee's are not designed for "serious
off-roading"!

Earl[_91_] October 4th 13 01:23 AM

Try this in today's cars.
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Sunday, 29 September 2013 10:34:31 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 06:13:36 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Sunday, 29 September 2013 09:47:06 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:50:34 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0
No problem in my AWD Cayenne.
Bull****. You wouldn't even drive that thing through a mud puddle, lest you get it a wee bit dirty.
--
John H.
So, Ditzy Dan is another of those candy assed SUV drivers who just want to look the part... not actually soil their tires.


Why the bad behavior and name-calling?



When was the last time you took your Highlander for a little off-roading? Paved boat ramps don't

count.

John H.

Don't you read the literature on your vehicles, Johnny.
The Highlander isn't really meant for serious offroading.

You drive an SUV, but you don't do any off-roading. No one mentioned 'serious'. Wouldn't that make
you as much a 'candy ass' as Earl?

Do you think the Cayenne was designed for 'serious off-roading'?

It was designed as purely a status symbol, and that's the only thing
it's good for.

That is a very typical response from someone who can't afford one. The
same could be said about any new car by someone who is down-and-out.


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