On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many
states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on
needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all
so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing
these things...they are doing them,.


Really?


You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states
to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all
the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other
states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions
have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't
grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions.

Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states
are trying to shut down those that remain.

It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state
governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the
wealthy. Kansas is the prime example.

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.

On 9/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.



Not only that but the Nanny States here are all bought and paid for....
One of Jessi's sponsors opened a business and didn't grease the right
palms, couldn't put a sign in front on the road, for the opening. The
lighted sign they put on the building was "put out" too.. While the
restraunt that moved in under them has had a huge banner by the road for
the last 8 weeks cause the owner is "connected" by dollars to the local
zoning board.... Lib control is all about stealing money, period...

In article ,
says...

On 9/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.



Not only that but the Nanny States here are all bought and paid for....
One of Jessi's sponsors opened a business and didn't grease the right
palms, couldn't put a sign in front on the road, for the opening. The
lighted sign they put on the building was "put out" too.. While the
restraunt that moved in under them has had a huge banner by the road for
the last 8 weeks cause the owner is "connected" by dollars to the local
zoning board.... Lib control is all about stealing money, period...

Bull**** on top of insane bull****.

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

On 9/27/2013 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:06:32 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

Tell me again why they can't move.
Also...
The citizens elected those legislators, not you.
You have no right to say what their laws are.
O'Malley would not get more than single digits in Texas and Texans
have no right to complain about the laws of Maryland. They don't like
it, they can do what I did, MOVE.

My move was far from painless but I did it because I had no interest
in living there.


You are partially right. The states shouldn't have a right to determine
other state laws, but if you are a solid blue state and a red state
passes a law that makes it more attractive for a car or airplane
manufacturer to move there, you will have the Administration on you
doing the blue states bidding and protecting the corruption..

On 9/27/13 2:12 PM, skin a cat wrote:


You are partially right. The states shouldn't have a right to determine
other state laws, but if you are a solid blue state and a red state
passes a law that makes it more attractive for a car or airplane
manufacturer to move there, you will have the Administration on you
doing the blue states bidding and protecting the corruption..


You might want to have someone read to you and explain Articles IV and
VI of the Constitution of the United States.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:06:32 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

Tell me again why they can't move.
Also...
The citizens elected those legislators, not you.
You have no right to say what their laws are.
O'Malley would not get more than single digits in Texas and Texans
have no right to complain about the laws of Maryland. They don't like
it, they can do what I did, MOVE.

My move was far from painless but I did it because I had no interest
in living there.

Some people don't have the financial resources to move.

On 9/27/13 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:06:32 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

Tell me again why they can't move.
Also...
The citizens elected those legislators, not you.
You have no right to say what their laws are.
O'Malley would not get more than single digits in Texas and Texans
have no right to complain about the laws of Maryland. They don't like
it, they can do what I did, MOVE.

My move was far from painless but I did it because I had no interest
in living there.

Some people don't have the financial resources to move.


Poor people without resources don't exist in Greg's world, apparently.

Also, abortions are *legal* in the United States. What these several
states are doing is skirting the federal law that allows abortion.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/27/13 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:06:32 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

Tell me again why they can't move.
Also...
The citizens elected those legislators, not you.
You have no right to say what their laws are.
O'Malley would not get more than single digits in Texas and Texans
have no right to complain about the laws of Maryland. They don't like
it, they can do what I did, MOVE.

My move was far from painless but I did it because I had no interest
in living there.

Some people don't have the financial resources to move.


Poor people without resources don't exist in Greg's world, apparently.

Also, abortions are *legal* in the United States. What these several
states are doing is skirting the federal law that allows abortion.

Abortions used to be legal in the first trimester. Now it seems the baby
can be aborted as long as part of the baby is still in the birth canal.
Feet exit, then it is murder. Matter of a quart we inch. How many
abortions are needed at 9 months to save a mothers life?

On 9/27/2013 3:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/27/13 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:06:32 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:

"Efforts"?

The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it
was unpopular.

BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you
can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy)


The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful.
Don't you see the news?

As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro
area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for
example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive
far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in
Kansas or some other backwards state.


Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move
away from Texas.
You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet
they don't care.

Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by
the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you
think.
There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable
to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are
happy with that. If they aren't MOVE.
You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate
every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required"
conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy.


Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they
don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has
ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is
game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and
governors onto the people.

Tell me again why they can't move.
Also...
The citizens elected those legislators, not you.
You have no right to say what their laws are.
O'Malley would not get more than single digits in Texas and Texans
have no right to complain about the laws of Maryland. They don't like
it, they can do what I did, MOVE.

My move was far from painless but I did it because I had no interest
in living there.

Some people don't have the financial resources to move.


Poor people without resources don't exist in Greg's world, apparently.

Also, abortions are *legal* in the United States. What these several
states are doing is skirting the federal law that allows abortion.

Abortions used to be legal in the first trimester. Now it seems the baby
can be aborted as long as part of the baby is still in the birth canal.
Feet exit, then it is murder. Matter of a quart we inch. How many
abortions are needed at 9 months to save a mothers life?


Zero, it's murder, plain and simple...