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John H[_2_] September 23rd 13 11:55 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
.....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

True North[_2_] September 24th 13 01:22 AM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Monday, 23 September 2013 19:55:36 UTC-3, John H wrote:
....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold

can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.

--



John H.



Hope you're having a great day!


If you are just looking for pretty gold coins... may not be much of a long term investment though.
http://www.mint.ca/store/buy/gold_coins-cat120004

amdx[_3_] September 24th 13 01:30 AM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/23/2013 5:55 PM, John H wrote:
....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Would you like my address, I could use a $1300 Christmas present.
Mikek

PS. Same here, I bought one Krugerrand more than 30 years ago.

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 01:48 AM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:19:13 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:55:36 -0400, John H
wrote:

....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


The first thing you need to find out is what state close to will let
you buy gold or silver without a sales tax.
Then it is just a matter of finding the guy with the least premium
above spot..
You also have a timing issue or you will lose your shirt.
The other question is gold or silver.

Last time I did it I ended up on a coin dealer in Atlanta and I
brought a bag of silver quarters home in my carry on. That was 1995
and I think it was $5 an oz. It has been $50 but that pulled back
recently. I really don't watch it that closely.
I think I would wait until the congress settles all this foolishness
and see if we get a bigger pullback.
If the US ever got it's credit rating back I think gold prices would
crash.


I was thinking mail order. Don't know if I'd have to pay a sales tax though. Lots of things to check
out.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Wayne.B September 24th 13 03:32 AM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:30:15 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 9/23/2013 5:55 PM, John H wrote:
....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Would you like my address, I could use a $1300 Christmas present.
Mikek

PS. Same here, I bought one Krugerrand more than 30 years ago.


===

Friend of mine bought a used 50 ft racing sailboat back in the early
90s. When they unstepped the mast for maintenance they found a
Krugerrand underneath, apparently a good luck thing in some circles.

As an FYI, if you do a Google seearch on Krugerrand you will find a
lot of buying options.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 12:37 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Good idea, seeing how gold is losing value.....

BAR[_2_] September 24th 13 12:44 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article , says...

....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Invest in the companies who are mining gold. Holding the actual metal makes you think you
have the world by the balls but, you are even more subject to fluctations in the market. You
1 oz bar's value can swing $200 either way each day. And glod is down $300 in just the past 2
years. You missed the ladder and now you are at the top of the ride and the only way to get
down is to ride the slide back to the ground.

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 12:56 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:10:27 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:48:59 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:19:13 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:55:36 -0400, John H
wrote:

....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.

The first thing you need to find out is what state close to will let
you buy gold or silver without a sales tax.
Then it is just a matter of finding the guy with the least premium
above spot..
You also have a timing issue or you will lose your shirt.
The other question is gold or silver.

Last time I did it I ended up on a coin dealer in Atlanta and I
brought a bag of silver quarters home in my carry on. That was 1995
and I think it was $5 an oz. It has been $50 but that pulled back
recently. I really don't watch it that closely.
I think I would wait until the congress settles all this foolishness
and see if we get a bigger pullback.
If the US ever got it's credit rating back I think gold prices would
crash.


I was thinking mail order. Don't know if I'd have to pay a sales tax though. Lots of things to check
out.


If you are looking for investment gold, a big issue is the cost over
spot. Some of these guys put more in their pocket than you will make
back any time soon.
You can also get less than you paid for.
I wish I could remember the name of the place in Atlanta but I did do
some homework and at the time I knew some old time coin dealers.


I'm thinking about these guys.

http://www.jmbullion.com/

No sales tax, but they do charge a tad over 3% for credit card use.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 12:57 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:32:32 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:30:15 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 9/23/2013 5:55 PM, John H wrote:
....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Would you like my address, I could use a $1300 Christmas present.
Mikek

PS. Same here, I bought one Krugerrand more than 30 years ago.


===

Friend of mine bought a used 50 ft racing sailboat back in the early
90s. When they unstepped the mast for maintenance they found a
Krugerrand underneath, apparently a good luck thing in some circles.

As an FYI, if you do a Google seearch on Krugerrand you will find a
lot of buying options.


Now I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 01:02 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Monday, September 23, 2013 8:22:03 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Monday, 23 September 2013 19:55:36 UTC-3, John H wrote: ....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! If you are just looking for pretty gold coins... may not be much of a long term investment though. http://www.mint.ca/store/buy/gold_coins-cat120004


Thanks! I do like this one. Maybe one for each grandchild. What do you think?

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/pure-g...13-prod1690002

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 01:03 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:37:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... ....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents. Good idea, seeing how gold is losing value.....


Great! That'll make it cheaper to buy!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 01:23 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:37:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... ....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents. Good idea, seeing how gold is losing value.....

Great! That'll make it cheaper to buy!


And worth less when it keeps going down.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 01:23 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:32:32 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:30:15 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 9/23/2013 5:55 PM, John H wrote:
....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold
can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents.


Would you like my address, I could use a $1300 Christmas present.
Mikek

PS. Same here, I bought one Krugerrand more than 30 years ago.


===

Friend of mine bought a used 50 ft racing sailboat back in the early
90s. When they unstepped the mast for maintenance they found a
Krugerrand underneath, apparently a good luck thing in some circles.

As an FYI, if you do a Google seearch on Krugerrand you will find a
lot of buying options.


Now I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.


You didn't think about doing a Google search? Why am I not
surprised.....

True North[_2_] September 24th 13 01:29 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.
Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.
Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.
Some nice local history remembered.

F.O.A.D. September 24th 13 03:41 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/13 8:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:37:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says... ....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents. Good idea, seeing how gold is losing value.....

Great! That'll make it cheaper to buy!


And worth less when it keeps going down.



Gold is a lousy passive investment. If you buy gold when its price tanks
and then sell it if it rises substantially, then you've made money with
active investment. If you buy it and sit on it and sit on it and think
that it will be worth a lot more if and when the world economy
collapses, than you're a fool.

Now, if you give a woman some pretty gold jewelry, that's a worthwhile
investment in your relationship, and you don't have to concern yourself
with what the price of an ounce of gold is on a given day.



Wayne.B September 24th 13 04:39 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:41:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If you buy it and sit on it and sit on it and think
that it will be worth a lot more if and when the world economy
collapses, than you're a fool.


===

Take Harry's financial advice for what its worth - not very much.

The magic panacea for massive government debt is inflation. It works
every time and it's coming here soon. Creditors get paid back with
depreciated dollars and the people on fixed incomes of various sorts
get paid with depreciated dollars also. This hits the retiree
population very hard unless they own some hard assets like real
estate, oil in the ground, gold, etc.

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 04:57 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:39:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:41:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If you buy it and sit on it and sit on it and think
that it will be worth a lot more if and when the world economy
collapses, than you're a fool.


===

Take Harry's financial advice for what its worth - not very much.

The magic panacea for massive government debt is inflation. It works
every time and it's coming here soon. Creditors get paid back with
depreciated dollars and the people on fixed incomes of various sorts
get paid with depreciated dollars also. This hits the retiree
population very hard unless they own some hard assets like real
estate, oil in the ground, gold, etc.


I'll just bet if his dad had given him a couple dozen Krugerands, FOAD would have been quite happy.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 05:00 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.
Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.
Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.
Some nice local history remembered.


The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that
caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 05:02 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:23:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:37:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... ....and, other than a Krugerand many years ago, have never done so. Any suggestions as to where gold can be purchased? I'm thinking coins, or something tangible, that I can give as Christmas presents. Good idea, seeing how gold is losing value.....


Great! That'll make it cheaper to buy!


And worth less when it keeps going down.


Well Kevin, it can go only so far down, you know.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 05:22 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.
Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.
Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.
Some nice local history remembered.


The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that
caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.


Yeah, I know that's what the rape the land types say, but alas, that
isn't the problem or the solution.

True North[_2_] September 24th 13 06:31 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.


Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.


Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.


Some nice local history remembered.




The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 06:52 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.


Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.


Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.


Some nice local history remembered.




The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.


The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Wayne.B September 24th 13 06:53 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:57:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:39:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:41:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If you buy it and sit on it and sit on it and think
that it will be worth a lot more if and when the world economy
collapses, than you're a fool.


===

Take Harry's financial advice for what its worth - not very much.

The magic panacea for massive government debt is inflation. It works
every time and it's coming here soon. Creditors get paid back with
depreciated dollars and the people on fixed incomes of various sorts
get paid with depreciated dollars also. This hits the retiree
population very hard unless they own some hard assets like real
estate, oil in the ground, gold, etc.


I'll just bet if his dad had given him a couple dozen Krugerands, FOAD would have been quite happy.


===

His dad gave him a whole boatyard and he ****ed it away.

Hank©[_3_] September 24th 13 07:01 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/2013 1:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:57:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:39:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:41:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If you buy it and sit on it and sit on it and think
that it will be worth a lot more if and when the world economy
collapses, than you're a fool.

===

Take Harry's financial advice for what its worth - not very much.

The magic panacea for massive government debt is inflation. It works
every time and it's coming here soon. Creditors get paid back with
depreciated dollars and the people on fixed incomes of various sorts
get paid with depreciated dollars also. This hits the retiree
population very hard unless they own some hard assets like real
estate, oil in the ground, gold, etc.


I'll just bet if his dad had given him a couple dozen Krugerands, FOAD would have been quite happy.


===

His dad gave him a whole boatyard and he ****ed it away.

Sort of like entrepreneurship in reverse. Want to make a mole hill out
of a mountain? Harry can help.

Hank©[_3_] September 24th 13 07:03 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/2013 12:00 PM, John H wrote:
The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.


Smarter than the average Nova Scotian.

Hank©[_3_] September 24th 13 07:11 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/2013 1:52 PM, John H wrote:
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.
-- John H. Hope you're having a great day!

I wonder if Ralph Toyota or Henry Honda have weighed in yet?

Them damm wolves were probably crossbred with Nova Scotiaites. I'll bet
they don't know how to back up without a trim gauge either.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 07:15 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.


The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.


Holy **** you are dumb.....

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 07:34 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.


The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.


Holy **** you are dumb.....


Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

True North[_2_] September 24th 13 07:43 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
Yup, the Alberta gov't would be right at home in Texas.
They want to lease every last square kilometer of wilderness to the oil factions.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 07:52 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.


Holy **** you are dumb.....


Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."


Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

F.O.A.D. September 24th 13 07:52 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/13 2:43 PM, True North wrote:
Yup, the Alberta gov't would be right at home in Texas.
They want to lease every last square kilometer of wilderness to the oil factions.


?

John H[_2_] September 24th 13 08:20 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....


Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."


Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.


Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 08:23 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....

Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."


Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.


Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?


Cite?

F.O.A.D. September 24th 13 08:37 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/13 3:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."


Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.


What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

iBoaterer[_3_] September 24th 13 08:45 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."


Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.


What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.


Wolves, like all intelligent species prone to the laws of nature, take
the path of least resistance.

I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.


The indigenous people have hunted caribou forever, as have bears,
wolves, etc. When you shift the delicate balance in nature, it's never a
good outcome.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


See above, ie: balance of nature.



Hank©[_3_] September 24th 13 09:17 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/2013 2:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 2:43 PM, True North wrote:
Yup, the Alberta gov't would be right at home in Texas.
They want to lease every last square kilometer of wilderness to the
oil factions.


?


You're damn right "?" Your boy has gone daft on you. Right before your
eyes.

Hank©[_3_] September 24th 13 09:25 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/2013 3:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...


You claim she has open pores, but you know little else about her. You
truly are superficial and shallow Krausie.

F.O.A.D. September 24th 13 09:29 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/13 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:37:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...


Wolves ... so what. Is the wolf any less dead if you shoot them from a
jeep?
Once the government decides the wolves have to be thinned out, what
difference does it make how. Shooting as a lot more selective than
poison.
The Federal government BLM and USFS does the same thing. That is
probably where Alaska got the helicopter.


The wolves are better citizens than the Palins.

F.O.A.D. September 24th 13 09:46 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On 9/24/13 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:45:51 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.


Wolves, like all intelligent species prone to the laws of nature, take
the path of least resistance.

But, just like electricity, they will take all paths

I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.


The indigenous people have hunted caribou forever, as have bears,
wolves, etc. When you shift the delicate balance in nature, it's never a
good outcome.


I doubt Alberta is thinking about indians with bows. They have a very
lucrative hunting industry with people coming in from all over the
world. My bet is they are protecting that industry


I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


See above, ie: balance of nature.

My question was what controls wolves. I do not know the answer. It
might simply be starvation. They eat all the pray and decline or move
away. When the game rebounds they come back.
My wife has that sort of ecosystem at her club. They go from too many
rabbits to a lot of bobcats. It cycles back and forth. They are in the
"too many rabbits" right now but I am sure the bobcats are coming soon
and we will get more pictures like this.
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.


John H[_2_] September 24th 13 09:49 PM

Considering the purchase of gold...
 
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:23:04 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....

Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.


Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?


Cite?


Incite?
--

John H.

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