On 9/24/13 2:43 PM, True North wrote:
Yup, the Alberta gov't would be right at home in Texas.
They want to lease every last square kilometer of wilderness to the oil factions.


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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....

Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....

Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?

Cite?

On 9/24/13 3:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

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says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.

Wolves, like all intelligent species prone to the laws of nature, take
the path of least resistance.

I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

The indigenous people have hunted caribou forever, as have bears,
wolves, etc. When you shift the delicate balance in nature, it's never a
good outcome.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.

See above, ie: balance of nature.

On 9/24/2013 2:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 2:43 PM, True North wrote:
Yup, the Alberta gov't would be right at home in Texas.
They want to lease every last square kilometer of wilderness to the
oil factions.


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You're damn right "?" Your boy has gone daft on you. Right before your
eyes.

On 9/24/2013 3:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

You claim she has open pores, but you know little else about her. You
truly are superficial and shallow Krausie.

On 9/24/13 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:37:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

Wolves ... so what. Is the wolf any less dead if you shoot them from a
jeep?
Once the government decides the wolves have to be thinned out, what
difference does it make how. Shooting as a lot more selective than
poison.
The Federal government BLM and USFS does the same thing. That is
probably where Alaska got the helicopter.


The wolves are better citizens than the Palins.

On 9/24/13 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:45:51 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.

Wolves, like all intelligent species prone to the laws of nature, take
the path of least resistance.

But, just like electricity, they will take all paths

I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

The indigenous people have hunted caribou forever, as have bears,
wolves, etc. When you shift the delicate balance in nature, it's never a
good outcome.

I doubt Alberta is thinking about indians with bows. They have a very
lucrative hunting industry with people coming in from all over the
world. My bet is they are protecting that industry


I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.

See above, ie: balance of nature.

My question was what controls wolves. I do not know the answer. It
might simply be starvation. They eat all the pray and decline or move
away. When the game rebounds they come back.
My wife has that sort of ecosystem at her club. They go from too many
rabbits to a lot of bobcats. It cycles back and forth. They are in the
"too many rabbits" right now but I am sure the bobcats are coming soon
and we will get more pictures like this.
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:23:04 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:15:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:00:03 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



That Caribou coin is nice, and the Caribou are in the news up here because oil development in Alberta is intruding on their migration routes.

Personally I like the cheaper coin showing HMS Shannon defeating USS Chesapeake during the war of 1812.

Shannon sailed from Halifax and dragged the Chesapeake back here.

Some nice local history remembered.



The tree huggers put up big fights along those lines about the Alaska Pipeline. They discovered that

caribou are smart enough to walk under or over the pipe.

--
John H.


In Alberta it opened the way for predators like wolves to use the new roads to access areas where the Caribou had it all to themselves.
Any, the documentary claims that the caribou now avoid those areas that are opened up. No one less than David Suzuki said so.

The wolves had been unable to cross the land without the new roads? Perhaps they should shoot some
wolves if they're the problem.

Holy **** you are dumb.....

Apparently, not so dumb:

"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

Or perhaps overhunting by the indigenous population?

Cite?

Incite?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!