On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:27:38 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:52:15 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:


"The Alberta government has been killing an average of 100 wolves a year for 8 years to protect the
caribou ..."

Well, that certainly is a very good example of your stupidity!! Hint:
that sentence would show an intelligent person that there IS a problem
with them because of the roads.

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.

Shhh..
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:29:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:37:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

Wolves ... so what. Is the wolf any less dead if you shoot them from a
jeep?
Once the government decides the wolves have to be thinned out, what
difference does it make how. Shooting as a lot more selective than
poison.
The Federal government BLM and USFS does the same thing. That is
probably where Alaska got the helicopter.


The wolves are better citizens than the Palins.

Not in Alberta.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/24/13 4:48 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:29:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:37:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

Wolves ... so what. Is the wolf any less dead if you shoot them from a
jeep?
Once the government decides the wolves have to be thinned out, what
difference does it make how. Shooting as a lot more selective than
poison.
The Federal government BLM and USFS does the same thing. That is
probably where Alaska got the helicopter.


The wolves are better citizens than the Palins.

Another irrational statement from someone who should worry more about
what is happening east of the Potomac.


What's irrational about preferring wolves as neighbors to Palins?
Besides, you guys keep telling me we have wolves in the
neighborhood...thank goodness we don't have Palins.

On 9/24/13 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:46:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.

When the bobcats come in, they are everywhere. Keep your kitty inside.
We have a few here and a few weeks ago, my neighbor found his tabby
shredded. It wasn't chewed like a dog might do. It was ripped apart.
There are a couple of other cats missing.
Bobcats are the suspect. It might be a panther tho. We get one of them
in the scrub from time to time.
Right now the glades and Big Cypress are flooded so all sorts of
critters are moving into the neighborhoods of Naples and East Estero.



We don't let our pets outdoors. The only time they leave the house is
when they visit the vet each year, and in those cases, they are
transported in the car in a pet transporter.

I'm sure the critters moving into Naples and East Estero, whatever that
is, don't appreciate what the developers have done to the local real
estate.

On 9/24/13 5:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:53:47 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Another irrational statement from someone who should worry more about
what is happening east of the Potomac.


What's irrational about preferring wolves as neighbors to Palins?
Besides, you guys keep telling me we have wolves in the
neighborhood...thank goodness we don't have Palins.

We said coyotes.

Wolves are just wild dogs on steroids so I assume you would shoot them
too., They would likely try to kill a person they found walking in the
woods.
We have romanticized wolves but if you actually have them, they are
not as cute as they are in the Kevin Coster movie.
They will decimate a ranch.


Sure, if I were walking a trail and a a pack of feral dogs or a large
predator came along and decided to attack me, I'd shoot if I could. But
I sure as hell wouldn't "go hunting" for a critter.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:30:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:46:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.

When the bobcats come in, they are everywhere. Keep your kitty inside.
We have a few here and a few weeks ago, my neighbor found his tabby
shredded. It wasn't chewed like a dog might do. It was ripped apart.
There are a couple of other cats missing.
Bobcats are the suspect. It might be a panther tho. We get one of them
in the scrub from time to time.
Right now the glades and Big Cypress are flooded so all sorts of
critters are moving into the neighborhoods of Naples and East Estero.



We don't let our pets outdoors. The only time they leave the house is
when they visit the vet each year, and in those cases, they are
transported in the car in a pet transporter.

I'm sure the critters moving into Naples and East Estero, whatever that
is, don't appreciate what the developers have done to the local real
estate.

Ban humans.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:48:55 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:30:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 9/24/13 5:25 PM, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:46:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg





How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.



When the bobcats come in, they are everywhere. Keep your kitty inside.

We have a few here and a few weeks ago, my neighbor found his tabby

shredded. It wasn't chewed like a dog might do. It was ripped apart.

There are a couple of other cats missing.

Bobcats are the suspect. It might be a panther tho. We get one of them

in the scrub from time to time.

Right now the glades and Big Cypress are flooded so all sorts of

critters are moving into the neighborhoods of Naples and East Estero.







We don't let our pets outdoors. The only time they leave the house is

when they visit the vet each year, and in those cases, they are

transported in the car in a pet transporter.



I'm sure the critters moving into Naples and East Estero, whatever that

is, don't appreciate what the developers have done to the local real

estate.



Ban humans.

--
John H.


Well, too bad the documentary won't play outside Canada.
Maybe one of our resident computer genius can figure how to view it for you.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows...ID/2353247794/

On 9/24/13 6:31 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:30:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:46:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.

When the bobcats come in, they are everywhere. Keep your kitty inside.
We have a few here and a few weeks ago, my neighbor found his tabby
shredded. It wasn't chewed like a dog might do. It was ripped apart.
There are a couple of other cats missing.
Bobcats are the suspect. It might be a panther tho. We get one of them
in the scrub from time to time.
Right now the glades and Big Cypress are flooded so all sorts of
critters are moving into the neighborhoods of Naples and East Estero.



We don't let our pets outdoors. The only time they leave the house is
when they visit the vet each year, and in those cases, they are
transported in the car in a pet transporter.

Wise choice. I don't let Mr Ed run around and he weighs 112 pounds

I'm sure the critters moving into Naples and East Estero, whatever that
is, don't appreciate what the developers have done to the local real
estate.

I am not sure the critters care. The panthers do OK until they get hit
by a car. Black bears seem to really like civilization. They can hole
up in a fairly urban environment and be real hard to find.
It took 3 weeks to track one down in downtown Ft Myers. There were
dozens of cell phone pictures but FWC couldn't find it.
Of course rabbits, raccoons and possums make themselves right at home.
There is an article in this months's Scientific American about coyotes
settling into Manhattan.


One of my buddies has a heavily wooded 20-acre lot out on Page County,
Virginia, adjacent to the Shenandoah, and on a part of the lot he
discovered a couple of years ago a substantial cave. In the cave were
lots of skeletons of eaten mammals. He took a plaster cast of the
footprints inside and outside the cave, showed the cast to a ranger, and
was told, "No doubt about it...bears."

Haven't talked to that bud in a while, so I don't know if he's had an
actual encounter with the cave bear(s). Probably black bears like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0zvkkwU4Ao

When my wife was in Tallahassee, she had an apartment next to a large
forest there and saw black bears on the edge of the woods a couple of
times.

On 9/24/2013 4:51 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:29:52 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:37:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

What do the roads have to do with anything. Wolves move through the
woods just fine.
I suspect there are other forces at work here. My guess is that there
is a thriving hunting industry for the caribou and other big
herbivores and the government wants them to be plentiful.

I am not sure what the natural control on wolves is there but I
suspect they are under pressure too.


Sarah Palin hunts wolves from the family helicopter...or was that moose?
Whatever the hell she shoots from up there...

Wolves ... so what. Is the wolf any less dead if you shoot them from a
jeep?
Once the government decides the wolves have to be thinned out, what
difference does it make how. Shooting as a lot more selective than
poison.
The Federal government BLM and USFS does the same thing. That is
probably where Alaska got the helicopter.


The wolves are better citizens than the Palins.

Not in Alberta.


Is that our harry krause? Cause he hasn't done anything decent for
anybody since he left home...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:31:17 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:30:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/24/13 5:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:46:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg


How wonderful to be able to see that sort of scene.

When the bobcats come in, they are everywhere. Keep your kitty inside.
We have a few here and a few weeks ago, my neighbor found his tabby
shredded. It wasn't chewed like a dog might do. It was ripped apart.
There are a couple of other cats missing.
Bobcats are the suspect. It might be a panther tho. We get one of them
in the scrub from time to time.
Right now the glades and Big Cypress are flooded so all sorts of
critters are moving into the neighborhoods of Naples and East Estero.



We don't let our pets outdoors. The only time they leave the house is
when they visit the vet each year, and in those cases, they are
transported in the car in a pet transporter.

Wise choice. I don't let Mr Ed run around and he weighs 112 pounds

I'm sure the critters moving into Naples and East Estero, whatever that
is, don't appreciate what the developers have done to the local real
estate.

I am not sure the critters care. The panthers do OK until they get hit
by a car. Black bears seem to really like civilization. They can hole
up in a fairly urban environment and be real hard to find.
It took 3 weeks to track one down in downtown Ft Myers. There were
dozens of cell phone pictures but FWC couldn't find it.
Of course rabbits, raccoons and possums make themselves right at home.
There is an article in this months's Scientific American about coyotes
settling into Manhattan.

We've got a pair of coyotes in a two-block sized park about a half mile from my house. I'm thinking
of carrying just to protect my hounds from the wild and 'tame' critters around here.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!