On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/29/2013 2:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?

I wouldn't say I like it but it does seem to have accurate information.
I need to use a magnifying glass to see everything.
Rand and Mc'naly makes it. I got the one with laminated pages. About $50.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:40:11 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 2:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?

I wouldn't say I like it but it does seem to have accurate information.
I need to use a magnifying glass to see everything.
Rand and Mc'naly makes it. I got the one with laminated pages. About $50.

I've kept a magnifying glass in my desk drawer for years. Only been the past year or so that I've
had to drag it out. I suppose it's just cheaper to print stuff really, really small. Probably saves
'em a lot of ink money, not to mention paper, trees, forests, global warming, etc., etc.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/29/13 10:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:06:26 -0400, John H
wrote:

I've kept a magnifying glass in my desk drawer for years. Only been the past year or so that I've
had to drag it out. I suppose it's just cheaper to print stuff really, really small. Probably saves
'em a lot of ink money, not to mention paper, trees, forests, global warming, etc., etc.

Go to the dollar store and get a pair of "350" reading glasses.
I keep them on my work bench for working on tiny printed circuit
boards and putting leads into subminiature connectors.
It also works on the bane of all old guys, reading the engraved
numbers on a glass fuse cap.


3.50 reading glasses? Wowser. 1.50s work for me. 3.50 would give me a
blinding headache and I wouldn't be able to read anything.

On 9/29/2013 11:16 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:11:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/29/13 10:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:06:26 -0400, John H
wrote:

I've kept a magnifying glass in my desk drawer for years. Only been the past year or so that I've
had to drag it out. I suppose it's just cheaper to print stuff really, really small. Probably saves
'em a lot of ink money, not to mention paper, trees, forests, global warming, etc., etc.

Go to the dollar store and get a pair of "350" reading glasses.
I keep them on my work bench for working on tiny printed circuit
boards and putting leads into subminiature connectors.
It also works on the bane of all old guys, reading the engraved
numbers on a glass fuse cap.


3.50 reading glasses? Wowser. 1.50s work for me. 3.50 would give me a
blinding headache and I wouldn't be able to read anything.

If you are working up close on something they work pretty well. Just
don't look up or try to walk.
It is just easier than trying to work with a desk magnifier.

My normal reading glasses are 1.25


Perhaps Harry isn't taking into account the new optics he had implanted
during cataract surgery.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:04:23 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:06:26 -0400, John H
wrote:

I've kept a magnifying glass in my desk drawer for years. Only been the past year or so that I've
had to drag it out. I suppose it's just cheaper to print stuff really, really small. Probably saves
'em a lot of ink money, not to mention paper, trees, forests, global warming, etc., etc.

Go to the dollar store and get a pair of "350" reading glasses.
I keep them on my work bench for working on tiny printed circuit
boards and putting leads into subminiature connectors.
It also works on the bane of all old guys, reading the engraved
numbers on a glass fuse cap.

Can't do it. I have to have an eight degree prism to correct for a weak muscle in one eye. None of
the drugstore reading glasses have that, so I'd get double vision - vertically. Pain in the butt.
But, the ophthalmologist guy says as long as a prescription will work, don't go the surgery route.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:40:11 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 2:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?

I wouldn't say I like it but it does seem to have accurate information.
I need to use a magnifying glass to see everything.
Rand and Mc'naly makes it. I got the one with laminated pages. About $50.

Does this review from Amazon describe it? I was hoping for detail *off* the major highways.

"I planned on using this atlas for traveling in my motorhome mainly because of the laminated pages.
However I was very disappointed in the lack of detail on the maps. They show the main routes but are
not much use for off of the main routes plus the print is quite small. It might be good for truckers
but if you need an atlas for recreational travel, this is not your best choice. "
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/29/2013 4:10 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:40:11 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 2:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?

I wouldn't say I like it but it does seem to have accurate information.
I need to use a magnifying glass to see everything.
Rand and Mc'naly makes it. I got the one with laminated pages. About $50.

Does this review from Amazon describe it? I was hoping for detail *off* the major highways.

"I planned on using this atlas for traveling in my motorhome mainly because of the laminated pages.
However I was very disappointed in the lack of detail on the maps. They show the main routes but are
not much use for off of the main routes plus the print is quite small. It might be good for truckers
but if you need an atlas for recreational travel, this is not your best choice. "


Well, I don't know what the best choice is, but The info on that rr
tresle was in there. You just need to spend some time with it to get the
info you are looking for. If you wanted all the detail shown on the
maps, the book would be 12 inches thick. Let me know if you find
something better; Ill buy it.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:16:58 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 4:10 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:40:11 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 2:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:30:31 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:54:20 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:23:15 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:38 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What I go with??
I've bought a SUV type tent on a whim. Costco had the Napier brand on sale in July.

Let us know how it works, especially in the rain.


Donny always buys stuff that doesn't quite measure up to his needs. Fer
instance. Would you use a device that produces high heat and flames to
heat a highly flammable enclosure while you sleep? An enclosure that
could drip molten material on your skin if it burned.
And a boat that isn't quite big enough to handle normal sea and wind
conditions in his native land. His Wife told him that 2 more feet might
do the trick, but Donny cheaps out and buys something not quite big
enough. Will he ever learn?

Nah, he had to settle for what he got. Just like I did.

I *needed* one of these:
http://motorhome.prevostcar.com/site...14_9629ext.jpg

But had to settle for this:
http://i1.rvusa.com/wm/showimagerv.ashx?id=14602430&t=4

If you had a million 3 laying around, you could get one of these

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Bobs%20RV.jpg


Too tall. I had to sneak under a 12' 9" bridge. Doubt the Prevost could
do that.

I'd be going under it damn slowly, with my wife watching the whole time.


I knew it was mighty low but I didn't see how low till we passed the
spot in the car. The sign was hidden by bushes. When we left the area, I
drove 10 miles out of the way to avoid that trestle. All I had to worry
about was low wires. After that, I paid closer attention to my trucker's
atlas. I'll never rely on the Garmin trucker GPS for off highway routing
again.

Who makes the truckers atlas you like?

I wouldn't say I like it but it does seem to have accurate information.
I need to use a magnifying glass to see everything.
Rand and Mc'naly makes it. I got the one with laminated pages. About $50.

Does this review from Amazon describe it? I was hoping for detail *off* the major highways.

"I planned on using this atlas for traveling in my motorhome mainly because of the laminated pages.
However I was very disappointed in the lack of detail on the maps. They show the main routes but are
not much use for off of the main routes plus the print is quite small. It might be good for truckers
but if you need an atlas for recreational travel, this is not your best choice. "


Well, I don't know what the best choice is, but The info on that rr
tresle was in there. You just need to spend some time with it to get the
info you are looking for. If you wanted all the detail shown on the
maps, the book would be 12 inches thick. Let me know if you find
something better; Ill buy it.

I think I'll get the cheap one and see if it works. The other day I cut up route 17 to get from I-66
to Winchester. Once I got on the two-lane, I started worrying about overpasses. Luckily we didn't
run into anything scary.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!