On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 08:51:17 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:45:26 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



"keeps your on the team"??

Queens English please, Ditzy.



As to your tenting question:



Do not set the tent up behind the Highlander and use the Highlander exhaust to heat your tent. This

may weaken the seams.



Do buy a gas lantern. One of these will keep your tent nice and warm.



http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Compact-Propane-Lantern/dp/B0009PUR54/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1380375473&sr=1-3&keywords=gas+lantern



For dryness, use a good ground cover. Make sure the edges are folded under so water can't come over.

I personally think you'd be happier with a good size tent (six man) separate from the Highlander.

Use the Highlander as storage while you're camping. Don't ever think that a three-man tent will be

sizeable enough for two.



Oh, one of these is great for cooking:



http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000004124-PefectFlow-1-Burner-Stove/dp/B0009PUR5E/ref=pd_sim_sg_2



My wife and I spent an awful lot of time motorcycle camping in Europe. Both of those items take up

little room and are quite efficient. Buy plenty of mantles, although you probably won't break them

as often in a car as I did on a motorcycle.

--



John H.


I was thinking something that didn't throw too much light while I slept.
I still have an old Coleman naptha gas lantern that uses mantles...plenty of heat but way too much light.

Also have my old naptha gas 2 burner camp stove but a friend gave me a new butane model when I travelled to the Muskoka Region of Ontario for a sailboat rendezvous in 2007.
If the campground supplies electric power, I can bring along a household space heater or even a heat lamp.
I used to suffer from mild asthma and don't want to take the chance of it flaring up in a cold damp tent.

Here's another one I'd stay at. Right on the water, electric, water and sewer (unneeded) only $5
/night more.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

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says...

On Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:45:26 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



"keeps your on the team"??

Queens English please, Ditzy.



As to your tenting question:



Do not set the tent up behind the Highlander and use the Highlander exhaust to heat your tent. This

may weaken the seams.



Do buy a gas lantern. One of these will keep your tent nice and warm.



http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Compact-Propane-Lantern/dp/B0009PUR54/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1380375473&sr=1-3&keywords=gas+lantern



For dryness, use a good ground cover. Make sure the edges are folded under so water can't come over.

I personally think you'd be happier with a good size tent (six man) separate from the Highlander.

Use the Highlander as storage while you're camping. Don't ever think that a three-man tent will be

sizeable enough for two.



Oh, one of these is great for cooking:



http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000004124-PefectFlow-1-Burner-Stove/dp/B0009PUR5E/ref=pd_sim_sg_2



My wife and I spent an awful lot of time motorcycle camping in Europe. Both of those items take up

little room and are quite efficient. Buy plenty of mantles, although you probably won't break them

as often in a car as I did on a motorcycle.

--



John H.


I was thinking something that didn't throw too much light while I slept.
I still have an old Coleman naptha gas lantern that uses mantles...plenty of heat but way too much light.

Also have my old naptha gas 2 burner camp stove but a friend gave me a new butane model when I travelled to the Muskoka Region of Ontario for a sailboat rendezvous in 2007.
If the campground supplies electric power, I can bring along a household space heater or even a heat lamp.
I used to suffer from mild asthma and don't want to take the chance of it flaring up in a cold damp tent.

http://tinyurl.com/l64u3ny

Works fantastic!

wrote:
This is our idea of "camping"

http://tinyurl.com/3gjbczn

We prefer

http://tinyurl.com/2owpr5

Have a friend whose wife thinks anything less than the Clift Hotel in SF is
camping.never could see those attach to the vehicle tent. Unless it was a
truck camper. Want to drive over to another part of the area for hiking,
fishing, you have to break camp. For warmth, do not use an air mattress.
Use a foam pad, even the foam filled blowup pads are better. Keeps from
wicking the heat away from you as you try to sleep. Put an extra blanket
under the sleeping bag. 99 cent store is a great place for camping stuff.
Get the flexible plastic bowls for having oatmeal in the morning. Mix the
oatmeal, cinnamon, and crasins and put Ina ziplock bag. The. Just pour
some in the cheap bowl, add hot water. Prepare meatloaf and other parts of
the meal at home and just reheat in a skillet. Makes for much more
enjoyable trips. The tents with the outside flexible poles are really easy
to put up these days. I have a Coleman Tetragon 9' tent and takes about 5
minutes to put up. Get a trenching tool and make a small trench around the
tent if you have rain in your area. Make the water drain away from the
tent. Put a Coleman lantern inside before you enter and it will warm up
the tent. Do not run it a long time if you want to survive. If you are at
a campground with electricity, get a ceramic 1500w heater and use that.

In article 699626978402078792.867671bmckeenospam-
, says...

wrote:
This is our idea of "camping"

http://tinyurl.com/3gjbczn

We prefer

http://tinyurl.com/2owpr5

Have a friend whose wife thinks anything less than the Clift Hotel in SF is
camping.never could see those attach to the vehicle tent. Unless it was a
truck camper. Want to drive over to another part of the area for hiking,
fishing, you have to break camp. For warmth, do not use an air mattress.
Use a foam pad, even the foam filled blowup pads are better. Keeps from
wicking the heat away from you as you try to sleep. Put an extra blanket
under the sleeping bag. 99 cent store is a great place for camping stuff.
Get the flexible plastic bowls for having oatmeal in the morning. Mix the
oatmeal, cinnamon, and crasins and put Ina ziplock bag. The. Just pour
some in the cheap bowl, add hot water. Prepare meatloaf and other parts of
the meal at home and just reheat in a skillet. Makes for much more
enjoyable trips. The tents with the outside flexible poles are really easy
to put up these days. I have a Coleman Tetragon 9' tent and takes about 5
minutes to put up. Get a trenching tool and make a small trench around the
tent if you have rain in your area. Make the water drain away from the
tent. Put a Coleman lantern inside before you enter and it will warm up
the tent. Do not run it a long time if you want to survive. If you are at
a campground with electricity, get a ceramic 1500w heater and use that.

The one I had for my SUV was really not any more useful than a decent
tent, if I were to have another SUV I wouldn't bother with one again.
For car camping, I have a (alleged) 6 person tent and use decent
inflatable mattresses.

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says...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:22:17 -0400, John H
wrote:


If you go to a campground, you've usually got the choice of a 'tent' site (no amenities) or an RV
site which would have electricity, water, and sewage (about half the time). You'd never need sewage
with a tent, but water and electricity are nice to have on cold and hot days. A little office heater
will do you nicely in a big tent. We never had an electric heater while tenting, even in Europe with
snow on the tent. The lantern gets it warm, and sleeping bags keep you warm.

Here's a nice place. Charges $5 more for water and electricity (well worth it). Even has a launch
ramp to the ocean, so you could take the boat.

http://www.waysidecampground.com/Home_Page.php

If we ever drag the 5er to Nova Scotia, we'd stay there.

The last time I was "camping" I was actually sleeping in my truck and
they put me at an unimproved site right next to the three with power
that my buddies had turned into a bedouin resort.
I ran a cord over to run my fan and a light

One time in Montana, on a hike I camped next to a sheepherder with his
mule drawn wagon. Great night talking to him over the campfire! I've not
had that type of experience at city hotels.

On 9/28/13 2:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:22:17 -0400, John H
wrote:


If you go to a campground, you've usually got the choice of a 'tent' site (no amenities) or an RV
site which would have electricity, water, and sewage (about half the time). You'd never need sewage
with a tent, but water and electricity are nice to have on cold and hot days. A little office heater
will do you nicely in a big tent. We never had an electric heater while tenting, even in Europe with
snow on the tent. The lantern gets it warm, and sleeping bags keep you warm.

Here's a nice place. Charges $5 more for water and electricity (well worth it). Even has a launch
ramp to the ocean, so you could take the boat.

http://www.waysidecampground.com/Home_Page.php

If we ever drag the 5er to Nova Scotia, we'd stay there.

The last time I was "camping" I was actually sleeping in my truck and
they put me at an unimproved site right next to the three with power
that my buddies had turned into a bedouin resort.
I ran a cord over to run my fan and a light

One time in Montana, on a hike I camped next to a sheepherder with his
mule drawn wagon. Great night talking to him over the campfire! I've not
had that type of experience at city hotels.



Last time I was in Banff at Lake Louise, we roughed it by camping at:

http://www.fairmont.com/lake-louise/

It had a different name back then, but it was a pretty decent place to
camp. They delivered seared Atlantic salmon and shrimp to our RV room.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:15:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/28/13 2:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:22:17 -0400, John H
wrote:


If you go to a campground, you've usually got the choice of a 'tent' site (no amenities) or an RV
site which would have electricity, water, and sewage (about half the time). You'd never need sewage
with a tent, but water and electricity are nice to have on cold and hot days. A little office heater
will do you nicely in a big tent. We never had an electric heater while tenting, even in Europe with
snow on the tent. The lantern gets it warm, and sleeping bags keep you warm.

Here's a nice place. Charges $5 more for water and electricity (well worth it). Even has a launch
ramp to the ocean, so you could take the boat.

http://www.waysidecampground.com/Home_Page.php

If we ever drag the 5er to Nova Scotia, we'd stay there.

The last time I was "camping" I was actually sleeping in my truck and
they put me at an unimproved site right next to the three with power
that my buddies had turned into a bedouin resort.
I ran a cord over to run my fan and a light

One time in Montana, on a hike I camped next to a sheepherder with his
mule drawn wagon. Great night talking to him over the campfire! I've not
had that type of experience at city hotels.



Last time I was in Banff at Lake Louise, we roughed it by camping at:

http://www.fairmont.com/lake-louise/

It had a different name back then, but it was a pretty decent place to
camp. They delivered seared Atlantic salmon and shrimp to our RV room.

Very believable.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Saturday, 28 September 2013 13:22:17 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 08:51:17 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:45:26 UTC-3, John H wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:







"keeps your on the team"??



Queens English please, Ditzy.







As to your tenting question:







Do not set the tent up behind the Highlander and use the Highlander exhaust to heat your tent. This



may weaken the seams.







Do buy a gas lantern. One of these will keep your tent nice and warm.







http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Compact-Propane-Lantern/dp/B0009PUR54/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1380375473&sr=1-3&keywords=gas+lantern







For dryness, use a good ground cover. Make sure the edges are folded under so water can't come over.



I personally think you'd be happier with a good size tent (six man) separate from the Highlander.



Use the Highlander as storage while you're camping. Don't ever think that a three-man tent will be



sizeable enough for two.







Oh, one of these is great for cooking:







http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000004124-PefectFlow-1-Burner-Stove/dp/B0009PUR5E/ref=pd_sim_sg_2







My wife and I spent an awful lot of time motorcycle camping in Europe. Both of those items take up



little room and are quite efficient. Buy plenty of mantles, although you probably won't break them



as often in a car as I did on a motorcycle.



--







John H.





I was thinking something that didn't throw too much light while I slept.

I still have an old Coleman naptha gas lantern that uses mantles...plenty of heat but way too much light.



Also have my old naptha gas 2 burner camp stove but a friend gave me a new butane model when I travelled to the Muskoka Region of Ontario for a sailboat rendezvous in 2007.

If the campground supplies electric power, I can bring along a household space heater or even a heat lamp.

I used to suffer from mild asthma and don't want to take the chance of it flaring up in a cold damp tent.



If you go to a campground, you've usually got the choice of a 'tent' site (no amenities) or an RV

site which would have electricity, water, and sewage (about half the time). You'd never need sewage

with a tent, but water and electricity are nice to have on cold and hot days. A little office heater

will do you nicely in a big tent. We never had an electric heater while tenting, even in Europe with

snow on the tent. The lantern gets it warm, and sleeping bags keep you warm.



Here's a nice place. Charges $5 more for water and electricity (well worth it). Even has a launch

ramp to the ocean, so you could take the boat.



http://www.waysidecampground.com/Home_Page.php



If we ever drag the 5er to Nova Scotia, we'd stay there.

John H.


Way too close to home for me. perfect for tourists wanting to see beautiful St. Margaret's bay and the sights in Halifax city. Energetic campers could bicycle to town.
Just before that campground on the same road is the Shinning Waters Marina.
Best ramp in the area re slope and dock but a bit narrow to access.
A bit pricy too.. compared to all the free launch ramps.
They charge $15.00 + HST for the day.
Worth it if the tide is low and you are entertaining guests.

As soon as the leaves turn I'm heading to Cape Breton. If you like beautiful scenery, it's hard to beat.
Trouble is, all the Provincial camp grounds close after Labour Day...including one at Lake o'Law. Too bad, but I guess it helps the private campgrounds make a buck on the shoulder season.

On Saturday, 28 September 2013 13:51:32 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:45:26 UTC-3, John H wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:







"keeps your on the team"??



Queens English please, Ditzy.







As to your tenting question:







Do not set the tent up behind the Highlander and use the Highlander exhaust to heat your tent. This



may weaken the seams.







Do buy a gas lantern. One of these will keep your tent nice and warm.







http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Compact-Propane-Lantern/dp/B0009PUR54/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1380375473&sr=1-3&keywords=gas+lantern







For dryness, use a good ground cover. Make sure the edges are folded under so water can't come over.



I personally think you'd be happier with a good size tent (six man) separate from the Highlander.



Use the Highlander as storage while you're camping. Don't ever think that a three-man tent will be



sizeable enough for two.







Oh, one of these is great for cooking:







http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000004124-PefectFlow-1-Burner-Stove/dp/B0009PUR5E/ref=pd_sim_sg_2







My wife and I spent an awful lot of time motorcycle camping in Europe. Both of those items take up



little room and are quite efficient. Buy plenty of mantles, although you probably won't break them



as often in a car as I did on a motorcycle.



--







John H.





I was thinking something that didn't throw too much light while I slept.

I still have an old Coleman naptha gas lantern that uses mantles...plenty of heat but way too much light.



Also have my old naptha gas 2 burner camp stove but a friend gave me a new butane model when I travelled to the Muskoka Region of Ontario for a sailboat rendezvous in 2007.

If the campground supplies electric power, I can bring along a household space heater or even a heat lamp.

I used to suffer from mild asthma and don't want to take the chance of it flaring up in a cold damp tent.



http://tinyurl.com/l64u3ny



Works fantastic!

Looks a bit more powerful than I'd need... just something to take the morning chill and dampness off.

In article ,
says...

On 9/28/13 2:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:22:17 -0400, John H
wrote:


If you go to a campground, you've usually got the choice of a 'tent' site (no amenities) or an RV
site which would have electricity, water, and sewage (about half the time). You'd never need sewage
with a tent, but water and electricity are nice to have on cold and hot days. A little office heater
will do you nicely in a big tent. We never had an electric heater while tenting, even in Europe with
snow on the tent. The lantern gets it warm, and sleeping bags keep you warm.

Here's a nice place. Charges $5 more for water and electricity (well worth it). Even has a launch
ramp to the ocean, so you could take the boat.

http://www.waysidecampground.com/Home_Page.php

If we ever drag the 5er to Nova Scotia, we'd stay there.

The last time I was "camping" I was actually sleeping in my truck and
they put me at an unimproved site right next to the three with power
that my buddies had turned into a bedouin resort.
I ran a cord over to run my fan and a light

One time in Montana, on a hike I camped next to a sheepherder with his
mule drawn wagon. Great night talking to him over the campfire! I've not
had that type of experience at city hotels.



Last time I was in Banff at Lake Louise, we roughed it by camping at:

http://www.fairmont.com/lake-louise/

It had a different name back then, but it was a pretty decent place to
camp. They delivered seared Atlantic salmon and shrimp to our RV room.

Too bad you'll never experience real camping, meeting people like I
have.