On Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:50:59 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/19/2013 8:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"Hank©" wrote in message

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On 9/19/2013 8:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





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On 9/19/2013 6:06 PM, True North wrote:

Took the Legend Xcalibur out to Grand lake today for some late summer

boating.

Finally got on the water at noon and it was as smooth as silk. Easily

the calmest water we've seen on this lake since I started talking the

Princecraft Yukon out there years ago.

Was such a pleasure zooming along that I had to be careful to keep the

revs down. I don't think they advise zipping along at 5000 RPM for too

long.



Stopped just off shore from what we think is hockey player Sydney

Crosby's house and had a light lunch of a banana and cool clear water..

Forgot the dogs 'GatorAid' water bottle so the wife had to let him

drink from her cup after she was through.



This is the third trip out since I had the trim gauge installed and

must admit that it was money well spent. The upper end of the lake can

get shallow so I trim the motor up a bit to save bashing the prop on

rocks and it's nice to know where it stands.

A couple of times I strayed into 4 foot water depth and trimmed up,

only to trim down again to speed up in deeper water.

No such problem in the larger lower portion which has 150+ depths.

Saw a few fishermen out there but only talked to one old guy at the

ramp who hadn't caught anything.

The HummingBird 170 indicated lots of fish in certain areas. Might

have to get a license, file down the barb and try some catch & release

next year.



Beautiful day, and tomorrow and Saturday should be the same but a bit

cooler than todays 25C.





Catch and release? Catch and eat is the humane way to fish.



By the way there is a trim limit switch on your setup. You can use that

switch to trim to the *safe* upper limit and any position between that

and full down trim.y it Be aware that the gauge is less than accurate

and you risk tearing your bellow if you rely on it.



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Doesn't he have an outboard? What bellow?



You too?



--------------------------



I responded too quickly. Didn't see the others. Just making sure you

haven't lost all your marbles.





Maybe I have. Somehow I never associated the need or desire to have a

trim gauge with outboards.


Well, aren't you special!
Someone must like them...lots of models for sale.

On 9/19/13 10:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:50:59 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/19/2013 8:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"Hank©" wrote in message

eb.com...



On 9/19/2013 8:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"Hank©" wrote in message

eb.com...



On 9/19/2013 6:06 PM, True North wrote:

Took the Legend Xcalibur out to Grand lake today for some late summer

boating.

Finally got on the water at noon and it was as smooth as silk. Easily

the calmest water we've seen on this lake since I started talking the

Princecraft Yukon out there years ago.

Was such a pleasure zooming along that I had to be careful to keep the

revs down. I don't think they advise zipping along at 5000 RPM for too

long.



Stopped just off shore from what we think is hockey player Sydney

Crosby's house and had a light lunch of a banana and cool clear water.

Forgot the dogs 'GatorAid' water bottle so the wife had to let him

drink from her cup after she was through.



This is the third trip out since I had the trim gauge installed and

must admit that it was money well spent. The upper end of the lake can

get shallow so I trim the motor up a bit to save bashing the prop on

rocks and it's nice to know where it stands.

A couple of times I strayed into 4 foot water depth and trimmed up,

only to trim down again to speed up in deeper water.

No such problem in the larger lower portion which has 150+ depths.

Saw a few fishermen out there but only talked to one old guy at the

ramp who hadn't caught anything.

The HummingBird 170 indicated lots of fish in certain areas. Might

have to get a license, file down the barb and try some catch & release

next year.



Beautiful day, and tomorrow and Saturday should be the same but a bit

cooler than todays 25C.





Catch and release? Catch and eat is the humane way to fish.



By the way there is a trim limit switch on your setup. You can use that

switch to trim to the *safe* upper limit and any position between that

and full down trim.y it Be aware that the gauge is less than accurate

and you risk tearing your bellow if you rely on it.



--------------------------------



Doesn't he have an outboard? What bellow?



You too?



--------------------------



I responded too quickly. Didn't see the others. Just making sure you

haven't lost all your marbles.





Maybe I have. Somehow I never associated the need or desire to have a

trim gauge with outboards.


Well, aren't you special!
Someone must like them...lots of models for sale.



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are of
some importance.

On 9/20/2013 9:33 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/19/13 10:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:50:59 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/19/2013 8:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"Hank©" wrote in message

eb.com...



On 9/19/2013 8:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"Hank©" wrote in message

eb.com...



On 9/19/2013 6:06 PM, True North wrote:

Took the Legend Xcalibur out to Grand lake today for some late summer

boating.

Finally got on the water at noon and it was as smooth as silk. Easily

the calmest water we've seen on this lake since I started talking the

Princecraft Yukon out there years ago.

Was such a pleasure zooming along that I had to be careful to keep
the

revs down. I don't think they advise zipping along at 5000 RPM for
too

long.



Stopped just off shore from what we think is hockey player Sydney

Crosby's house and had a light lunch of a banana and cool clear
water.

Forgot the dogs 'GatorAid' water bottle so the wife had to let him

drink from her cup after she was through.



This is the third trip out since I had the trim gauge installed and

must admit that it was money well spent. The upper end of the lake
can

get shallow so I trim the motor up a bit to save bashing the prop on

rocks and it's nice to know where it stands.

A couple of times I strayed into 4 foot water depth and trimmed up,

only to trim down again to speed up in deeper water.

No such problem in the larger lower portion which has 150+ depths.

Saw a few fishermen out there but only talked to one old guy at the

ramp who hadn't caught anything.

The HummingBird 170 indicated lots of fish in certain areas. Might

have to get a license, file down the barb and try some catch &
release

next year.



Beautiful day, and tomorrow and Saturday should be the same but a bit

cooler than todays 25C.





Catch and release? Catch and eat is the humane way to fish.



By the way there is a trim limit switch on your setup. You can use
that

switch to trim to the *safe* upper limit and any position between that

and full down trim.y it Be aware that the gauge is less than accurate

and you risk tearing your bellow if you rely on it.



--------------------------------



Doesn't he have an outboard? What bellow?



You too?



--------------------------



I responded too quickly. Didn't see the others. Just making sure you

haven't lost all your marbles.





Maybe I have. Somehow I never associated the need or desire to have a

trim gauge with outboards.


Well, aren't you special!
Someone must like them...lots of models for sale.



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are of
some importance.

If you need training wheels as Greg said.

On 9/20/13 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:33:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are of
some importance.

It is trivial to add it to a LCD display. Command link has plenty of
Gee Whiz info on that display.


Yamaha disagrees with you, in importance. Go argue with Yamaha.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/20/13 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:33:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are of
some importance.

It is trivial to add it to a LCD display. Command link has plenty of
Gee Whiz info on that display.


Yamaha disagrees with you, in importance. Go argue with Yamaha.

Maybe on the large Yami's, but the small ones don't.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/20/13 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:33:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into
the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are
of
some importance.

It is trivial to add it to a LCD display. Command link has plenty of
Gee Whiz info on that display.


Yamaha disagrees with you, in importance. Go argue with Yamaha.

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Yeah, it says, "for these sea conditions, this trim sucks.".

My trim technique ... for small outboards and for 52 footers was the
same. I look at the bow angle, I look at the RPM and I look at the
speed over water. Adjust as necessary to optimize for sea conditions.
The trim gauge, (if equipped) meant nothing.

On 9/20/2013 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/20/13 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:33:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are of
some importance.

It is trivial to add it to a LCD display. Command link has plenty of
Gee Whiz info on that display.


Yamaha disagrees with you, in importance. Go argue with Yamaha.

---------------------

Yeah, it says, "for these sea conditions, this trim sucks.".

My trim technique ... for small outboards and for 52 footers was the
same. I look at the bow angle, I look at the RPM and I look at the
speed over water. Adjust as necessary to optimize for sea conditions.
The trim gauge, (if equipped) meant nothing.



That's just too much information for Harry and his bud to process. ;-)

Home at last!

On 9/21/13 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:36:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com
wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/20/13 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:33:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:



My Yamaha 225 and 150 outboards came with trim gauges built into
the
control display and the motor, so obviously Yamaha thinks they are
of
some importance.

It is trivial to add it to a LCD display. Command link has plenty of
Gee Whiz info on that display.


Yamaha disagrees with you, in importance. Go argue with Yamaha.

---------------------

Yeah, it says, "for these sea conditions, this trim sucks.".

My trim technique ... for small outboards and for 52 footers was the
same. I look at the bow angle, I look at the RPM and I look at the
speed over water. Adjust as necessary to optimize for sea conditions.
The trim gauge, (if equipped) meant nothing.


Bear in mind Don and I have small open boats. Harry had a Parker with
a low transom so he couldn't see his motor without standing up and
leaning over the hole.
From my normal helm position I can see the lower mounting bolts on the
bracket.
It is handy if you break a steering cable.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/steering%20trick.jpg


You should pour some of that beer on the backside of your steering wheel
to loosen the crud that seems stuck to it.

I always got a kick out of that "low transom" nonsense. The lowest part
of the transom on that Parker was 25"...the same depth or deeper than
many other boats its size, more than a few of which have only 20"
transoms. The ignorant jibes just further demonstrated the lack of
boating knowledge in this so-called "news group." The boats I had when I
was a kid running them all over Long Island Sound only had 15" transoms.

BTW, you resemble your brother, Ted Kaczynski, although you obviously
bathe a lot more often.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Kaczynski.jpg

On 9/21/13 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:57:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/21/13 12:55 AM, wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/steering%20trick.jpg


You should pour some of that beer on the backside of your steering wheel
to loosen the crud that seems stuck to it.

That is the surface rust that forms on 304 SS


I always got a kick out of that "low transom" nonsense. The lowest part
of the transom on that Parker was 25"...the same depth or deeper than
many other boats its size, more than a few of which have only 20"
transoms. The ignorant jibes just further demonstrated the lack of
boating knowledge in this so-called "news group." The boats I had when I
was a kid running them all over Long Island Sound only had 15" transoms.

Yet you cant see the motor?


Where did you get that idea? It was an open center console boat. The
motor was equipped with senders and the Yamaha console gauge reported them.

Oh, and I keep my stainless steel pristine.

On 9/21/2013 5:58 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/21/13 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:57:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/21/13 12:55 AM, wrote:

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/steering%20trick.jpg


You should pour some of that beer on the backside of your steering wheel
to loosen the crud that seems stuck to it.

That is the surface rust that forms on 304 SS


I always got a kick out of that "low transom" nonsense. The lowest part
of the transom on that Parker was 25"...the same depth or deeper than
many other boats its size, more than a few of which have only 20"
transoms. The ignorant jibes just further demonstrated the lack of
boating knowledge in this so-called "news group." The boats I had when I
was a kid running them all over Long Island Sound only had 15" transoms.

Yet you cant see the motor?


Where did you get that idea? It was an open center console boat. The
motor was equipped with senders and the Yamaha console gauge reported them.

Oh, and I keep my stainless steel pristine.

Like the sink next to your coffee maker?