Women and death by gun
 

A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:33:14 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

So don't buy a gun.

Now *that* is good advice.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/18/13 4:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.


Low regard would be an overstatement. No regard would be more accurate
for many conservatives.

Women and death by gun
 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives. The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

Women and death by gun
 

"John H" wrote in message
...

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash.
Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that
women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I
suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

------------------------------

jps's post reminded me of this. Funny as hell, especially after
scanning through rec.boats for a bit:

http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.
The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

You must have had your head in the sand during the last election
cycle. Repubicans are losing the female vote in droves and it's for a
reason that doesn't have anything to do with Democrats.

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.
The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

Also, you might want to reflect on what's just happened in Texas and
elsewhere with Republican lawmakers shoving through legislation that's
decidedly anti-choice.

Men not trusting women to make a choice with what happens inside their
own bodies isn't going to serve the Republican party well.

The party of Todd Akin and Rick Perry is anti-woman.

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Women and death by gun
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns
and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way
after
the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

-----------------------

jps, what exactly is your position on gun ownership?

Do you favor banning private ownership of all guns or are you simply
advocating a ban on "assault type" firearms and high capacity
magazines? I assume that if there is private ownership, you support
background checks including mental health info.

If you favor the latter (ban on assault type firearms and high
capacity magazines) you may be preaching to the choir. Most gun
owners agree with you.

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.



Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.
Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,
teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be
targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,
and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow
the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it
would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)

Women and death by gun
 

In article , says...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

More women died riding in Teddy Kennedy's car than have been injured, wonded or killed by any
firearms I may or may not posses.

Women and death by gun
 

In article , says...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was
attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives
hold women in low regard, including their wives.
The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

Also, you might want to reflect on what's just happened in Texas and
elsewhere with Republican lawmakers shoving through legislation that's
decidedly anti-choice.

Men not trusting women to make a choice with what happens inside their
own bodies isn't going to serve the Republican party well.

The party of Todd Akin and Rick Perry is anti-woman.

I like that Liberals/Democrats/Progressives complaining about anti-choice.

Women and death by gun
 

In article , "Mr. Luddite" says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns
and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way
after
the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

-----------------------

jps, what exactly is your position on gun ownership?

Do you favor banning private ownership of all guns or are you simply
advocating a ban on "assault type" firearms and high capacity
magazines? I assume that if there is private ownership, you support
background checks including mental health info.

If you favor the latter (ban on assault type firearms and high
capacity magazines) you may be preaching to the choir. Most gun
owners agree with you.

Please identify an "assault type firearms?"

I have a pistol that is used during military assaults. Should it be banned? It only has a
capacity of 7 rounds in the magazine.

Women and death by gun
 

In article , says...

On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.



Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.
Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,
teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be
targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,
and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow
the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it
would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)

Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?

Women and death by gun
 

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:40:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash.
Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that
women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I
suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

------------------------------

jps's post reminded me of this. Funny as hell, especially after
scanning through rec.boats for a bit:

http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm

Wow. Talk about hitting some nails on the head. I especially like the first line in the conclusion:
"Do not get angry, ever "

You're right - there are great examples right here in rec.boats. I think this deserves its own
thread.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:19:07 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , "Mr. Luddite" says...



"jps" wrote in message

...



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:





This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns

and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way

after

the guns were gone.







With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.



-----------------------



jps, what exactly is your position on gun ownership?



Do you favor banning private ownership of all guns or are you simply

advocating a ban on "assault type" firearms and high capacity

magazines? I assume that if there is private ownership, you support

background checks including mental health info.



If you favor the latter (ban on assault type firearms and high

capacity magazines) you may be preaching to the choir. Most gun

owners agree with you.



Please identify an "assault type firearms?"



I have a pistol that is used during military assaults. Should it be banned? It only has a

capacity of 7 rounds in the magazine.


All handguns should be banned or highly regulated.
Especially to ex-military types... as shown once more they seem to be the most likely group to engage in mass killings in the over 35 age group.

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

What would you call the incident at the Washington Navy Yard if not a mass murder?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/19/2013 7:44 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at
the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to
buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.



Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.
Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,
teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be
targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,
and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow
the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it
would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)

You are advocating shooting those that don't share your narrow and
biased point of view. I thought that was your position, but I wasn't
quite positive until you admitted it.

Women and death by gun
 

On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:17:46 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives hold women in low regard, including their
wives.
The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

You must have had your head in the sand during the last election
cycle. Repubicans are losing the female vote in droves and it's for a
reason that doesn't have anything to do with Democrats.

That was a smooth change of subject.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/19/2013 9:13 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.


Your brain appears to be on an extended sabbatical.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

In article , says...

On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.



Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.
Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,
teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be
targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,
and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow
the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it
would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)

Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?

Cite that.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

What would you call the incident at the Washington Navy Yard if not a mass murder?

So it's a mass murder, what does that have to do with JPS's assertion
that there's not so many?

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Mass murder makes the news but as a real contribution to death counts
it is a very small number.


Oh, well, then...mass murder with firearms is OK.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.
And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."
That's all NRA and gun nut BS.

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

And bikies too. Guess that's their version of gangbangers.
Hey, anybody can find out what's going on in Australia.
Ever hear of the internet?
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...ring-down-the-
barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325

Australians still kill one another with guns. Violent culture.
Australia has higher assault, rape and burglary rates than the U.S.
Folks in the U.S. appear to be kinder and more law-abiding than Aussies.
Sure, the U.S. gun homicide rate is 4 times greater.
But the U.S. has the NRA and gun nuts who worship guns.
That's what probably accounts for the high U.S. gun homicide rate.
The NRA and gun nuts fighting to make guns available for everyone, and
boosting gun ownership.
It'a mostly PR. They sold a lot of Pet Rocks and Swatches too.
The NRA wants criminals and nut cases to have guns too.
That's why they don't want background checks for all gun sales, or gun
registration. The criminal market is a big piece of gun profits.
Nasty business. Kind of reminds me of the cigarette business.

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:20:24 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/19/2013 9:13 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool. :)



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.


Your brain appears to be on an extended sabbatical.

To be pleasing to Harry, Don has to be down on the military.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:31:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Mass murder makes the news but as a real contribution to death counts
it is a very small number.


Oh, well, then...mass murder with firearms is OK.

Only in Chicago.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:57 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.
And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."
That's all NRA and gun nut BS.

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

And bikies too. Guess that's their version of gangbangers.
Hey, anybody can find out what's going on in Australia.
Ever hear of the internet?
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...ring-down-the-
barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325

Australians still kill one another with guns. Violent culture.
Australia has higher assault, rape and burglary rates than the U.S.
Folks in the U.S. appear to be kinder and more law-abiding than Aussies.
Sure, the U.S. gun homicide rate is 4 times greater.
But the U.S. has the NRA and gun nuts who worship guns.
That's what probably accounts for the high U.S. gun homicide rate.
The NRA and gun nuts fighting to make guns available for everyone, and
boosting gun ownership.
It'a mostly PR. They sold a lot of Pet Rocks and Swatches too.
The NRA wants criminals and nut cases to have guns too.
That's why they don't want background checks for all gun sales, or gun
registration. The criminal market is a big piece of gun profits.
Nasty business. Kind of reminds me of the cigarette business.

You do tend to make up a lot of ****, don't you?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:57 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.
And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."
That's all NRA and gun nut BS.

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

And bikies too. Guess that's their version of gangbangers.
Hey, anybody can find out what's going on in Australia.
Ever hear of the internet?
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...ring-down-the-
barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325

Australians still kill one another with guns. Violent culture.
Australia has higher assault, rape and burglary rates than the U.S.
Folks in the U.S. appear to be kinder and more law-abiding than Aussies.
Sure, the U.S. gun homicide rate is 4 times greater.
But the U.S. has the NRA and gun nuts who worship guns.
That's what probably accounts for the high U.S. gun homicide rate.
The NRA and gun nuts fighting to make guns available for everyone, and
boosting gun ownership.
It'a mostly PR. They sold a lot of Pet Rocks and Swatches too.
The NRA wants criminals and nut cases to have guns too.
That's why they don't want background checks for all gun sales, or gun
registration. The criminal market is a big piece of gun profits.
Nasty business. Kind of reminds me of the cigarette business.

You do tend to make up a lot of ****, don't you?

Please show what is not true in his above paragraph.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

All handguns should be banned or highly regulated.
Especially to ex-military types... as shown once more they seem to be the most likely group to engage in mass killings in the over 35 age group.

cite that.

The Navy Yard.
Ft. Hood
Robert Lee Yates

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:57 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.

It is from the Aussie government. Are you saying they lie?

That chart is old, and could be tracking somebody's cholesterol level.
It's a joke, saying absolutely nothing.

And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."

Cite that.


I'm not Loogy, and you can google. I can guarantee you that getting
that through google will be as easy and definitive as it gets.
That kind of government statistical data is now easy to find.
Unlike your "big bad ADA shut downs successful restaurant" story.
I googled for that, didn't see anything, but didn't give it more than a
few minutes.


So we can stop having to hear about the Australian miracle now. Thanks

Never heard me mention it. In fact, I see mostly gun nuts posting about
it to deny it. Like you do.
All I can ken is the Aussie laws stopped mass murder by firearms.
Australia can't be compared to the U.S. anyway.
Different culture. No 2nd Amendment Holy Book there, no NRA there, and
many fewer gun worshipers.

Women and death by gun
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:39:52 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:57 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.

It is from the Aussie government. Are you saying they lie?

That chart is old, and could be tracking somebody's cholesterol level.
It's a joke, saying absolutely nothing.

And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."

Cite that.


I'm not Loogy, and you can google. I can guarantee you that getting
that through google will be as easy and definitive as it gets.
That kind of government statistical data is now easy to find.
Unlike your "big bad ADA shut downs successful restaurant" story.
I googled for that, didn't see anything, but didn't give it more than a
few minutes.


So we can stop having to hear about the Australian miracle now. Thanks

Never heard me mention it. In fact, I see mostly gun nuts posting about
it to deny it. Like you do.
All I can ken is the Aussie laws stopped mass murder by firearms.
Australia can't be compared to the U.S. anyway.
Different culture. No 2nd Amendment Holy Book there, no NRA there, and
many fewer gun worshipers.

From where comes your graph? And what makes you think the passage of a law stopped mass murder by
firearms - that there haven't been any since passage of the law? Can you not see any fallacy in that
argument?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:39:52 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


Never heard me mention it. In fact, I see mostly gun nuts posting about
it to deny it. Like you do.

If you don't remember seeing gun control groups citing the Australian
gun confiscation as a panacea, you are just not paying attention.


Being aware of an argument and buying into it are 2 different things.
As I've said, I can look at empirical data and make up my own mind.

They just had one of the Australian politicians who lost his job over
it on CNN commenting on the Colorado people who were recalled
He swears it was a major turning point, in spite of statistics that
say otherwise.


There you go again, bringing up the "Australia" argument.
CNN is really getting trashy - again.
Remember when Jon Stewart went on Crossfire some years ago, and solemnly
said, "This show is bad for America?"
Standing ovation from the audience, or close to it.
Shortly thereafter it was taken off the air.
CNN just brought it back. I just watched a piece of it.
Same "left/right" yelling at each as before.
They won't invite Jon Stewert on there again.
He'd say the same thing, and it will be as true now as it was then.
Same bull**** yelling at each other, just different faces.
It's one I'll avoid, along with the yellow journalist Brit.
That idiot Brit sure makes Larry King look good.


All I can ken is the Aussie laws stopped mass murder by firearms.

So far. There is nothing to prevent another one. Bear in mind, one of
our deadliest ones was done with a bolt action rifle.


You could say the same "so far" in 100 years.
Let me know when there's a Texas Tower massacre in Australia.
Then we can crunch the numbers.


Australia can't be compared to the U.S. anyway.
Different culture. No 2nd Amendment Holy Book there, no NRA there, and
many fewer gun worshipers.

Many fewer people overall.

Total numbers have little, if anything, to do with rates.
I was talking about rates really.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:45:17 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

All handguns should be banned or highly regulated.
Especially to ex-military types... as shown once more they seem to be the most likely group to engage in mass killings in the over 35 age group.

cite that.

The Navy Yard.
Ft. Hood

That is TWO

Robert Lee Yates

Not a mass murderer. If we are going to throw **** around, try to get
the definition right. This guy killed hookers, one at a time over a
number of years. He is a serial killer.

How about the DC sniper, Aurora, Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook etc

Oh, I see! YOU get to decide the definition of a mass murderer, eh?

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:26:29 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:31:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Mass murder makes the news but as a real contribution to death counts
it is a very small number.


Oh, well, then...mass murder with firearms is OK.

Only in Chicago.

Or Detroit, St Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, DC, NOLA etc. Democratically
controlled cities by and large.

Only "democratically controlled cities" have murder problems??? You're
getting quite narrow minded, and I didn't expect that of you.

Women and death by gun
 

On 9/20/13 10:11 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:45:17 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

All handguns should be banned or highly regulated.
Especially to ex-military types... as shown once more they seem to be the most likely group to engage in mass killings in the over 35 age group.

cite that.

The Navy Yard.
Ft. Hood

That is TWO

Robert Lee Yates

Not a mass murderer. If we are going to throw **** around, try to get
the definition right. This guy killed hookers, one at a time over a
number of years. He is a serial killer.

How about the DC sniper, Aurora, Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook etc

Oh, I see! YOU get to decide the definition of a mass murderer, eh?


The definition is loose, but typically refers to the killing of a number
of people over a relatively short period of time.

Women and death by gun
 

In article ,
says...

On 9/20/13 10:11 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:45:17 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

All handguns should be banned or highly regulated.
Especially to ex-military types... as shown once more they seem to be the most likely group to engage in mass killings in the over 35 age group.

cite that.

The Navy Yard.
Ft. Hood

That is TWO

Robert Lee Yates

Not a mass murderer. If we are going to throw **** around, try to get
the definition right. This guy killed hookers, one at a time over a
number of years. He is a serial killer.

How about the DC sniper, Aurora, Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook etc

Oh, I see! YOU get to decide the definition of a mass murderer, eh?


The definition is loose, but typically refers to the killing of a number
of people over a relatively short period of time.

Good Wiki reading....

Women and death by gun
 

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:13:10 -0400, iBoaterer
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Only in Chicago.

Or Detroit, St Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, DC, NOLA etc. Democratically
controlled cities by and large.

Only "democratically controlled cities" have murder problems??? You're
getting quite narrow minded, and I didn't expect that of you.

The biggest concentrations of drug and gang murders are in big cities
and most have democratic leadership. Dispute that.

****, that's easy! One has NOTHING to do with the other.
Do you mean like Miami?