On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:17:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:



"Califbill" wrote in message
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"Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:
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What a surprise...

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish...revention/5416

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Ban drinking.

Ban bad behavior.

Ban bans.

Gay marriage?
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John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:17:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:



"Califbill" wrote in message
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"Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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What a surprise...

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish...revention/5416

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Ban drinking.

Ban bad behavior.

Ban bans.

Gay marriage?

Narrow minded twit.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:44:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:45:40 -0400, John H
wrote:

Ban bad behavior.

Ban bans.

Gay marriage?

Ban marriage ... problem solved

Wash DC is trying that out. Trouble is...most kids get left with mom. I assume gay unions will cut
way down on the number of single parent kids needing welfare. Maybe they're a good thing.
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John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:00:00 -0400, John H
wrote:

Gay marriage?

Ban marriage ... problem solved

Wash DC is trying that out. Trouble is...most kids get left with mom. I assume gay unions will cut
way down on the number of single parent kids needing welfare. Maybe they're a good thing.
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You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

On 9/20/2013 11:43 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:00:00 -0400, John H
wrote:

Gay marriage?

Ban marriage ... problem solved

Wash DC is trying that out. Trouble is...most kids get left with mom.
I assume gay unions will cut
way down on the number of single parent kids needing welfare. Maybe
they're a good thing.
--

You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

You forgot to mention today's vote to ****can O'Bamacare. And the chosen
one tweets "They did it".

On 9/20/13 1:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:43:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:

You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

Don't try to paint everyone with the same brush


The Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives and in state
legislatures where possible voted almost unananimously to do what I have
stated.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/20/13 1:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:43:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:

You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

Don't try to paint everyone with the same brush


The Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives and in state
legislatures where possible voted almost unananimously to do what I have stated.

And the present Democrat leaders are trying to keep family values away from
a large group. Replacing it with nanny state, getting votes.

On 9/20/13 4:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/20/13 1:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:43:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:

You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

Don't try to paint everyone with the same brush


The Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives and in state
legislatures where possible voted almost unananimously to do what I have stated.

And the present Democrat leaders are trying to keep family values away from
a large group. Replacing it with nanny state, getting votes.



Just what "family values" are the Democrats trying to keep away?

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/20/13 4:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/20/13 1:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:43:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/20/13 11:24 AM, wrote:

You mean "left with grand mom"
That used to work before grand mom was a crack head too.
We are coming up on 3 generations of disfunctional families now in
that culture.

The liberal democrats can continue to trash the idea of family values
but the lack of them is getting to be the biggest single problem in
the country . Crime, drug abuse, poverty and lack of education can all
be traced back to the lack of family structure.


It's always fun to read the postings of conservatives on the subject of
family values when the party of those conservatives votes to cut food
stamps for hungry children, votes to keep poor people away from decent
health care, votes to discriminate against gays, votes to take the vote
away from the poor, people of color, students, and the elderly. Family
values and today's Republican Party are polar opposites.

Don't try to paint everyone with the same brush


The Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives and in state
legislatures where possible voted almost unananimously to do what I have stated.

And the present Democrat leaders are trying to keep family values away from
a large group. Replacing it with nanny state, getting votes.



Just what "family values" are the Democrats trying to keep away?

A loving, supportive family group.

On 9/20/13 9:35 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:54:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Just what "family values" are the Democrats trying to keep away?
In the simplest terms welfare policies and the tax code reward single
parents and discourage marriage. Single mothers are punished for
having a man in the house.
The other problem is the "all or nothing" approach to welfare. It
discourages people from working.

The "war on poverty" was a huge failure. There are more people in
poverty than there were in the early 60s and some have a couple of
generations of their family who have never had meaningful employment..


If you think that is the case, then you and the rest of the Republicans
should be working to get rid of regulations that penalize single mothers
for having a "man in the house."

If you want more impoverished single mothers to hold down jobs, then we
will need to increase the minimum wage substantially and find a way to
provide high-quality daycare for the children left at home.

As for marriage, my understanding is that younger women of all
educational and employment levels are far less interested in that form
of relationship than the women of previous generations, and it has
nothing to do with the tax code. I know lots of couples in their 40s who
have no desire to marry their partners or anyone else, and that includes
the women as well as the men.