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DAMN! End of boating season is almost here. Will winterize engine this
weekend but keep the boat in the water another 4 weeks or so. Seems
like we just got here. Was a great summer at the Jersey shore and
everyone was just happy to be there after the ****ING we got from
Sandy.

Happy boating everyone!

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Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.

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D'oh..should be *way*

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On 9/16/2013 9:36 PM, bob wrote:
DAMN! End of boating season is almost here. Will winterize engine this
weekend but keep the boat in the water another 4 weeks or so. Seems
like we just got here. Was a great summer at the Jersey shore and
everyone was just happy to be there after the ****ING we got from
Sandy.

Happy boating everyone!


Wow, still 90 plus degrees here in Florida! :-)
Mikek

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On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over the
boat. You're done.

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.

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Is this more of your legendary wit and humour, Hankie?
I thought you were some kind of boats handyman.
As per my Mercury manual, I change the engine oil, the engine filter, the gearcase oil and I lubricate all zerks and any pivoting part.
I also make sure the gas is topped up and the proper amount of stabilizer included while running the engine for 5 minutes before the oil changes.
I'll leave the water separator filter in place until next spring/summer when I burn off the old gas.
There may be an additional step or two that I'll discover in my manual.
Last step is putting the trailer up on blocks and assembling the Navigloo shelter I purchased from Costco.

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On 9/17/2013 9:00 AM, True North wrote:
Is this more of your legendary wit and humour, Hankie?
I thought you were some kind of boats handyman.
As per my Mercury manual, I change the engine oil, the engine filter, the gearcase oil and I lubricate all zerks and any pivoting part.
I also make sure the gas is topped up and the proper amount of stabilizer included while running the engine for 5 minutes before the oil changes.
I'll leave the water separator filter in place until next spring/summer when I burn off the old gas.
There may be an additional step or two that I'll discover in my manual.
Last step is putting the trailer up on blocks and assembling the Navigloo shelter I purchased from Costco.

By next year the gas in your tank will be 2 years old. The oil is still
new and you haven't moved things enough to expell the grease.

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On 9/17/13 8:58 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.


Really? That's the kind of foolish advice that results in heavy duty
repair bills. It's too bad that "Hank" seems incapable of responding
reasonably to *any* kind of post, and seems unable to resist blowing
snot even on boating posts.

Winterizing an outboard that you plan to keep for a long time requires
more than keeping the lower unit down and tossing a tarp over the boat.

At the very minimum, you should:

Wash the engine's exterior to remove any salt, stains, whatever, and
retouch paint.

Run fuel stabilizer into the fuel tank and run the engine at idle for 10
or 15 minutes to push the stabilizer into the engine.

Spray fogging oil into the air intake if you can until the engine smokes
at idle.

Remove the spark plugs and spray fogging oil into the cylinders and then
if you can turn the start key with the dead man's switch removed.

Replace the engine oil, oil filter, and lower unit gear oil.

Grease the fittings, if any.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice
mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect
this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and
retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over
the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.

-----------------------

Cover the prop area with a tarp also to prevent rain and snow from
entering the exhaust channels and freezing.
Don't ask how I learned this.

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On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 10:12:04 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/17/2013 9:00 AM, True North wrote:

Is this more of your legendary wit and humour, Hankie?

I thought you were some kind of boats handyman.

As per my Mercury manual, I change the engine oil, the engine filter, the gearcase oil and I lubricate all zerks and any pivoting part.

I also make sure the gas is topped up and the proper amount of stabilizer included while running the engine for 5 minutes before the oil changes.

I'll leave the water separator filter in place until next spring/summer when I burn off the old gas.

There may be an additional step or two that I'll discover in my manual.

Last step is putting the trailer up on blocks and assembling the Navigloo shelter I purchased from Costco.



By next year the gas in your tank will be 2 years old. The oil is still

new and you haven't moved things enough to expell the grease.


Say what??
If I top up at the end of October and use the gas by the following June... how does it get to be 2 years old?
What grease am I supposed to expel? I put fresh grease anywhere I can to push the old (possibly contaminated with sal****er) grease out.
My engine still has about 44 months factory warranty so I just might take it to a local Mercury authorized dealer and have then winterize the outboard.. It's too far to keep going back to the Legend dealer where I bought the boat.
(about 180 miles round trip)

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On 9/17/13 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.

You folks have a higher tolerance for cold weather. I see the
Canadians actually getting in the water here in February.
Air is 70, water 68 and they are saying "Toasty eh"



When I was a kid and visiting my grandparents in the summer up in
Massachusetts, we'd go swimming off Revere Beach and for some reason I
never thought the water was too cold. My mother told me I was splashing
in the water there with her in late August 1945 when I was about a year
and a half old, just before Japan surrendered. Nowadays, I'd probably
not stick a toe in that water. Florida ocean temperature waters "ruined"
me for the swimming waters of my Yankee heritage.

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On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:13:47 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Watch too early for winterizing.

I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.

We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.

Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.

Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.



You folks have a higher tolerance for cold weather. I see the

Canadians actually getting in the water here in February.

Air is 70, water 68 and they are saying "Toasty eh"

Lately we've been getting a lot more hot weather, but I remember in my teens and early 20's a lot of summers where 75 would be a 'hot' day.
Water seldom gets up over 68 here on the Atlantic Coast even in late August/early September....except for a few beaches in deep bays.
example: Queensland or Hubbards beaches in St Margaret's Bay.
On the north shore, it's a different thing on the Northumberland Strait.
They claim it's the warmest salt water north of the Carolinas.. at least that's what they tell the tourists.

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On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:24:05 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/17/13 11:13 AM, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Watch too early for winterizing.

I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.

We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.

Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.

Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.



You folks have a higher tolerance for cold weather. I see the

Canadians actually getting in the water here in February.

Air is 70, water 68 and they are saying "Toasty eh"







When I was a kid and visiting my grandparents in the summer up in

Massachusetts, we'd go swimming off Revere Beach and for some reason I

never thought the water was too cold. My mother told me I was splashing

in the water there with her in late August 1945 when I was about a year

and a half old, just before Japan surrendered. Nowadays, I'd probably

not stick a toe in that water. Florida ocean temperature waters "ruined"

me for the swimming waters of my Yankee heritage.


Here's a peek at a weather buoy at the mouth of Halifax harbor.
Air & water temps very close right now. ( 1240 hrs ADT )
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44258

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On 9/17/13 11:39 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:24:05 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/17/13 11:13 AM, wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Watch too early for winterizing.

I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.

We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.

Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.

Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.



You folks have a higher tolerance for cold weather. I see the

Canadians actually getting in the water here in February.

Air is 70, water 68 and they are saying "Toasty eh"







When I was a kid and visiting my grandparents in the summer up in

Massachusetts, we'd go swimming off Revere Beach and for some reason I

never thought the water was too cold. My mother told me I was splashing

in the water there with her in late August 1945 when I was about a year

and a half old, just before Japan surrendered. Nowadays, I'd probably

not stick a toe in that water. Florida ocean temperature waters "ruined"

me for the swimming waters of my Yankee heritage.


Here's a peek at a weather buoy at the mouth of Halifax harbor.
Air & water temps very close right now. ( 1240 hrs ADT )
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44258



Ahh, 52F water temp. Delightful. Water temps are still in the low to mid
70's hereabouts.

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:25:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Winterizing an outboard that you plan to keep for a long time requires
more than keeping the lower unit down and tossing a tarp over the boat.

At the very minimum, you should:

Wash the engine's exterior to remove any salt, stains, whatever, and
retouch paint.

Run fuel stabilizer into the fuel tank and run the engine at idle for 10
or 15 minutes to push the stabilizer into the engine.

Spray fogging oil into the air intake if you can until the engine smokes
at idle.

Remove the spark plugs and spray fogging oil into the cylinders and then
if you can turn the start key with the dead man's switch removed.

Replace the engine oil, oil filter, and lower unit gear oil.

Grease the fittings, if any.

===

Those are all good maintenance practices but really don't have
anything to do with winter. Hank's point, which I agreed with, is
that outboards don't require any special precautions for freezing
weather.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild
day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect
this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.

Should probably fog the engine also with the low usage.

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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:13:47 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:58:42 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Watch too early for winterizing.

I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice mild day blows up from down south.

We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect this week to be sunny and mild.

Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving at most ramps.

Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.



You folks have a higher tolerance for cold weather. I see the

Canadians actually getting in the water here in February.

Air is 70, water 68 and they are saying "Toasty eh"

Lately we've been getting a lot more hot weather, but I remember in my teens and early 20's a lot of summers where 75 would be a 'hot' day.
Water seldom gets up over 68 here on the Atlantic Coast even in late August/early September....except for a few beaches in deep bays.
example: Queensland or Hubbards beaches in St Margaret's Bay.
On the north shore, it's a different thing on the Northumberland Strait.
They claim it's the warmest salt water north of the Carolinas.. at least that's what they tell the tourists.

We used to belong to the Oxon Hill Swim club, a privately built and
maintained swimming pool in Maryland. The water came from a deep well
and they just let the pipe run most of the time. The water cruised
around 69-70 all summer. We had complaints from other swim team
coaches that our water was too cold.

I don't get into my pool unless I have to until it reaches 80 and prefer
85.

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On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:10:30 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:47:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ahh, 52F water temp. Delightful. Water temps are still in the low to mid
70's hereabouts.


Water was 27.8c in the river on the 9th when I did the state water
sample. (about 82f)
Salinity was 1.4 PPT. I thought my hydrometer was going to sink ;-)

Sounds better than 52 degrees. Hypothermia is not delightful. :-)

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On 9/17/2013 9:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice
mild day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but expect
this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and retrieving
at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.

-----------------------

Cover the prop area with a tarp also to prevent rain and snow from
entering the exhaust channels and freezing.
Don't ask how I learned this.


That's why you lower the leg.

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On 9/17/2013 9:54 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 10:12:04 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/17/2013 9:00 AM, True North wrote:

Is this more of your legendary wit and humour, Hankie?

I thought you were some kind of boats handyman.

As per my Mercury manual, I change the engine oil, the engine filter, the gearcase oil and I lubricate all zerks and any pivoting part.

I also make sure the gas is topped up and the proper amount of stabilizer included while running the engine for 5 minutes before the oil changes.

I'll leave the water separator filter in place until next spring/summer when I burn off the old gas.

There may be an additional step or two that I'll discover in my manual.

Last step is putting the trailer up on blocks and assembling the Navigloo shelter I purchased from Costco.



By next year the gas in your tank will be 2 years old. The oil is still

new and you haven't moved things enough to expell the grease.


Say what??
If I top up at the end of October and use the gas by the following June... how does it get to be 2 years old?
What grease am I supposed to expel? I put fresh grease anywhere I can to push the old (possibly contaminated with sal****er) grease out.
My engine still has about 44 months factory warranty so I just might take it to a local Mercury authorized dealer and have then winterize the outboard.. It's too far to keep going back to the Legend dealer where I bought the boat.
(about 180 miles round trip)

Have you used a whole tank of gas since you've owned the boat?

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"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.

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On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

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On 9/17/13 4:18 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.

I would drain that tank and use it in my car.

It is a lot easier to deal with a few CCs of condensation in the tank
than $60-70 worth of stale gas.
As dry as it is in the winter, you might not even have that.


Most small boats I have seen lately with built in fuel tanks don't have
drains. You'd have to pump or siphon it out somehow, and that's not a
fun thing to do with gallons of gasoline.

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"Califbill" wrote in message
...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:11:20 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/17/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
Watch too early for winterizing.
I'll wait until late October or early November just in case a nice
mild
day blows up from down south.
We've just gone from a crappy damp windy two week period but
expect
this week to be sunny and mild.
Trouble is, the tide cycle is against me for launching and
retrieving at most ramps.
Guess I'll go to a lake today or tomorrow.


What's to winterize Donnie? Put the leg down and throw a tarp over
the
boat. You're done.

===

That's the nice thing about outboards.

Should probably fog the engine also with the low usage.

---------------------------

Old school mechanics used to "pickle" 4 stroke inboards for the
winter. Nothing fancy like "fogging oil". My father-in-law used to
pickle the engines in his old Uniflite by starting them up and slowly
pouring regular motor oil into the carbs until the engines died due
to lack of air. Half a quart of oil per engine was all it took. He
religiously did this every fall for over 20 years.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of
it also.

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On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a *high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more knowledge.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 9/17/13 4:18 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right
now and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.

I would drain that tank and use it in my car.

It is a lot easier to deal with a few CCs of condensation in the
tank
than $60-70 worth of stale gas.
As dry as it is in the winter, you might not even have that.


Most small boats I have seen lately with built in fuel tanks don't
have
drains. You'd have to pump or siphon it out somehow, and that's not a
fun thing to do with gallons of gasoline.

-----------------------------

One of the center console outboard boats I once owned had a built-in
100 gallon gas tank. I decided to tow it down to Florida one winter
and realized the tank was full. So, I bought a cheap fuel pump for
a Chevy or something at Auto Zone and some gas lines. I hooked the
hose up to the line in the boat that feed into the fuel filter,
hooked up a battery and filled up my truck, my wife's car, our
neighbor's car and anyone who stopped by who wanted some free gas.
Better than hauling 100 gallons of gas down Rt. 95.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right
now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder
lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with
the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out
of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a
*high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've
had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated
a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more
knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was
well known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's
outdrives working properly, including complete rebuilds when
necessary. He helped me out a lot in getting one of my first boats
(an old Century) running and working decently. It should have been
deep sixed. One thing I liked was that he would never take a short
cut in the interest of saving a couple of bucks. He found and fixed
several amateurish "fixes" on that boat done by a previous owner that
could have resulted in fires or other serious safety issues. He
earned my respect and has remained a good friend. He just doesn't
like you very much.

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On 9/17/13 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a *high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century) running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes" on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in fires or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has remained a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.




Darn. He doesn't like me. I am crushed.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right
now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder
lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with
the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out
of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a
*high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to
years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've
had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that
demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more
knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was
well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's
outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He
helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century)
running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of
saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes" on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in fires
or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has remained
a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.




Darn. He doesn't like me. I am crushed.

------------------------------

Your Bozo Bin is full of them.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On 9/17/13 6:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a *high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century) running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes" on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in fires or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has remained a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.




Darn. He doesn't like me. I am crushed.

------------------------------

Your Bozo Bin is full of them.




And all but one have the same thing in common...they're all hate-filled
right-wingers. The one is slammer. I have no idea what he is, aside from
a flaming ass.

soon to winterize the boat
 

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a
*high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to
years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles.
We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that
demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more
knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was
well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's
outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He
helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century)
running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of
saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes"
on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in
fires or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has
remained a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.




Darn. He doesn't like me. I am crushed.

------------------------------

Your Bozo Bin is full of them.


And all but one have the same thing in common...they're all
hate-filled
right-wingers. The one is slammer. I have no idea what he is, aside
from
a flaming ass.

---------------------------------

The only thing in common is your personal definition of what a
"hate-filled right-winger" is. It's not their problem. It's
yours.

But I agree about slammer.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On 9/17/2013 4:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/17/13 4:18 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.

I would drain that tank and use it in my car.

It is a lot easier to deal with a few CCs of condensation in the tank
than $60-70 worth of stale gas.
As dry as it is in the winter, you might not even have that.


Most small boats I have seen lately with built in fuel tanks don't have
drains. You'd have to pump or siphon it out somehow, and that's not a
fun thing to do with gallons of gasoline.

Let's face it. Anything that involves physical labor, however slight,
isn't fun for you.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On 9/17/2013 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of it
also.



Right. I've done all the maintenance on my John Deere since I've owned
it, including the daunting task of changing spark plugs.

But that comment coming from someone who doesn't have the prowess to dig
a hole for a deck post was amusing.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On 9/17/2013 6:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/17/13 5:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/17/13 3:59 PM, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??
I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now
and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.
I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with
your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.


FlaJim is qualified to change the spark plug on a single cylinder lawn
mower engine if someone gaps the plug and removes the old one with the
proper socket.

---------------------------

Funny comment but far from accurate. I am sure he got a kick out of it
also.



I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a *high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century) running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes" on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in fires or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has remained a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.



That Jim fella sounds like one hell of a guy.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On 9/17/2013 7:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:





"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't recall seeing *one* post of his here that demonstrated a *high*
level of knowledge of any boating subject, and that goes back to years
past before he began posting here with his variety of handles. We've had
dealers and professional mechanics, here no longer, that demonstrated a
lot more knowledge, and we've had hobbyists demonstrating more
knowledge.

-----------------------------

Jim never claimed to be an expert in *all* boating issues. He was well
known and respected when he lived up here for keeping people's outdrives
working properly, including complete rebuilds when necessary. He helped
me out a lot in getting one of my first boats (an old Century) running
and working decently. It should have been deep sixed. One thing I
liked was that he would never take a short cut in the interest of saving
a couple of bucks. He found and fixed several amateurish "fixes" on
that boat done by a previous owner that could have resulted in fires or
other serious safety issues. He earned my respect and has remained a
good friend. He just doesn't like you very much.




Darn. He doesn't like me. I am crushed.

------------------------------

Your Bozo Bin is full of them.


And all but one have the same thing in common...they're all hate-filled
right-wingers. The one is slammer. I have no idea what he is, aside from
a flaming ass.

---------------------------------

The only thing in common is your personal definition of what a
"hate-filled right-winger" is. It's not their problem. It's yours.

But I agree about slammer.

Does Harry think that folks aren't fond of him because of political
differences? If so, he needs to do a more in depth assessment.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:00:33 AM UTC-4, True North wrote:

As per my Mercury manual, I change the engine oil, the engine filter, the gearcase oil and I lubricate all zerks and any pivoting part.

I also make sure the gas is topped up and the proper amount of stabilizer included while running the engine for 5 minutes before the oil changes.

I'll leave the water separator filter in place until next spring/summer when I burn off the old gas.

There may be an additional step or two that I'll discover in my manual.

Last step is putting the trailer up on blocks and assembling the Navigloo shelter I purchased from Costco.

Quit lying, ****. You have the Dealer do it all.

You're a useless slug, just like your Master Krause.

soon to winterize the boat
 

On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:59:57 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
"a whole tank of gas"??

I wish I only used that much since is costs 1.33 per liter right now and the inboard tank holds 60 liters.

I realize you are trying to make a funny but you'd best stick with your day job.....oh wait..you don't have one.

Neither do you, ****face.

At least HE can back up a trailered Boat......

soon to winterize the boat
 

On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:54:32 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


And I conclude the 2 of you are old, decrepit, useless ****s that hide behind keyboards.