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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Cite? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Oh, hell..... http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:45:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Cite? You should have watched the prosecutor's demonstration. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Oh, hell..... http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Oh hell.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar, and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind me... |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Oh, hell..... http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Oh hell.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI John (Gun Nut) H. Try to follow. Write it down if you can't remember... YOU said the "holster was in front". That is horse****. Hell, did you watch the video of Zimmerman HIMSELF showing where the gun was???? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:45:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front. John (Gun Nut) H. Cite? You should have watched the prosecutor's demonstration. John (Gun Nut) H. So the prosecutor knows more about what happened that night than Zimmerman now? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF. Zimmerman did not take the stand. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/13 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation implies martin approached Zimmerman. Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there?? Cite "normal tone". Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight. There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar, and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind me... And all of that is inconsitent with what happened, according to the defense. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Cite where he didn't The phone conversation. "Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for making my point. Zimmerman said Martin came up to him. And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone conversation..... Because of the conversation In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation, wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun? He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric: http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2 That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his history would suggest that, He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around watching martin from a distance. If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up. If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand. From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap? John (Gun Nut) H. That's where the holster was, idiot! Cite? John (Gun Nut) H. Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you. Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ 'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny. John (Gun Nut) H. Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF. Zimmerman did not take the stand. John (Gun Nut) H. Did you see the video of Zimmerman at the crime scene giving account of what happened? Did you see him demonstrating himself reaching to his back for his gun? I'm sure you did, so you must be maintaining that he was lying then? Martin didn't take the stand neither, so??? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On 9/9/13 2:56 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation implies martin approached Zimmerman. Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there?? Cite "normal tone". Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight. There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe. Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been lying!!! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/13 3:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/9/13 2:56 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation implies martin approached Zimmerman. Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there?? Cite "normal tone". Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight. There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe. Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been lying!!! They'll claim the video was "videoshopped..." |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/13 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... === The video clearly show him reaching for his hip, not behind his back. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you present it as. That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one for the .45) Did you watch the video? Did you notice him reach to his back? Is he lying now? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege He reached behind his back. Period. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and movements made when someone is fighting for their life... |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Oh hell.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI John (Gun Nut) H. Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun out with martin sitting on him. Holy **** that's stupid! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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says... On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and movements made when someone is fighting for their life... So Zimmerman was lying? And you'd better watch it, Greg thinks that videos tell the truth about an event, and one can come to a conclusion about things as mechanically complex as a boat just by watching a cell phone video! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/2013 3:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your senility, so he http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you present it as. That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one for the .45) Use your imagination. Slide it around on your belt and call it an ass carry holster or a shortarm carry holster. ;-) |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege He reached behind his back. Period. Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4. It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is. Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock. Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my back... not even "fighting for my life"... |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/13 7:32 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege He reached behind his back. Period. Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4. It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is. Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock. Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my back... not even "fighting for my life"... Nice story, asshole. |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
In article ,
says... On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege He reached behind his back. Period. Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4. It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is. Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock. Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my back... not even "fighting for my life"... Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement?? |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
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When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/ Oh hell.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI John (Gun Nut) H. Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun out with martin sitting on him. Holy **** that's stupid! Name-calling will make you believable. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 07:49:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote: On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: how did Zimmerman get his gun that was in the small of his back? Cite? You were watching too many 70 cop shows. Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under supervision at the crime scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun..... That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of the back carry you allege He reached behind his back. Period. Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4. It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is. Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock. Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my back... not even "fighting for my life"... Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement?? Lay on your back on the sidewalk. Raise your head and smack it into the concrete hard enough to break the skin. Do this two or three times. Let us know how it feels, Mr. Heman! John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
When stand your ground is justified, period.
On 9/9/13 1:39 PM, skin a cat wrote:
Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar, and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind me... Right...a sickly little ****head like you with cancer and a heart condition with someone holding you down is going to be able to lift your butt off the ground and grab the firearm you don't carry because you don't have... Next time you fall off that motorbike, try to land on your head, so you don't damage anything valuable. |
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