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John H[_2_] September 9th 13 04:38 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....


Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.


If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.


From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 04:38 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.


If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.


From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.


That's where the holster was, idiot!

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 04:51 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.


From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.


That's where the holster was, idiot!


Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 05:05 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.


That's where the holster was, idiot!


Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 05:21 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!


Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 05:44 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

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says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!


Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 05:45 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Cite?

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 05:46 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Oh, hell.....

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:20 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.


Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:25 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:45:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Cite?


You should have watched the prosecutor's demonstration.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:31 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Oh, hell.....

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

skin a cat September 9th 13 06:39 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:52 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:46:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Oh, hell.....

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.


Try to follow. Write it down if you can't remember... YOU said the
"holster was in front". That is horse****. Hell, did you watch the video
of Zimmerman HIMSELF showing where the gun was????

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:53 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 06:53 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:45:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Nope, you haven't. The holster was in the front.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Cite?


You should have watched the prosecutor's demonstration.

John (Gun Nut) H.


So the prosecutor knows more about what happened that night than
Zimmerman now?

John H[_2_] September 9th 13 06:58 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.


Zimmerman did not take the stand.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 07:59 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.


Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??


Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:01 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 1:20 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/


'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...


And all of that is inconsitent with what happened, according to the
defense.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:03 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:53:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:38:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:40:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:33:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:11:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Cite where he didn't

The phone conversation.

"Why are you following me" sounds like a confrontation

It sure does! That means that Zimmerman was indeed close enough to have
a conversation, that would be Zimmerman confronting Martin, thanks for
making my point.

Zimmerman said Martin came up to him.

And of course, you automatically 100% believe that, even after the phone
conversation.....

Because of the conversation

In fact, if he really thought he was initiating a confrontation,
wouldn't he have been more prepared to draw his gun?

He was. This actually makes perfect sense, unlike the FOX rhetoric:

http://tinyurl.com/ptadzn2


That all assumes Zimmerman did confront Martin but nothing in his
history would suggest that,
He was a "creepy assed cracker" because he was skulking around
watching martin from a distance.

If he had the gun in his hand, the shot would have been fired a lot
sooner. Certainly before he was beaten up.

If he was flat on his back, getting the **** beat out of him by a kid
half his size, as you and FOX maintain, then how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back? UNLESS he had it out beforehand.

From where did you come up with the 'small of his back' crap?

John (Gun Nut) H.

That's where the holster was, idiot!

Cite?

John (Gun Nut) H.

Already posted it, can you not read or just having trouble remembering
these days? Old age does not seem to be good to you.

Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

'Bewytchme'?? Hee, hee. You are so funny.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman himself demonstrating reaching around
to get to his gun on his BACK?? That has NOTHING to do with the site
that it came from that is Zimmerman HIMSELF.


Zimmerman did not take the stand.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Did you see the video of Zimmerman at the crime scene giving account of
what happened? Did you see him demonstrating himself reaching to his
back for his gun? I'm sure you did, so you must be maintaining that he
was lying then? Martin didn't take the stand neither, so???

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:05 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?


Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 08:06 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/13 2:56 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.

Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??


Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.


Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's
own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his
back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been
lying!!!

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 08:09 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 3:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/13 2:56 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:15:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Why are you following me? as the opening words of a conversation
implies martin approached Zimmerman.

Oh for ****'s sake. Then how in hell is able to talk to Zimmerman, in a
normal tone, if Zimmerman wasn't there??

Cite "normal tone".
Zimmerman said Martin came up behind him after he had lost sight.



There is nothing Zimmerman claimed he said that you boys don't believe.


Well there is now, I have shown both John and Greg video of Zimmerman's
own re-enactment at the scene, where he reaches for his gun behind his
back, but they both are going to now claim that Zimmerman must have been
lying!!!



They'll claim the video was "videoshopped..."


F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 08:32 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege



At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.


Wayne.B September 9th 13 08:37 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?


Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


===

The video clearly show him reaching for his hip, not behind his back.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:13 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you
present it as.
That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one
for the .45)


Did you watch the video? Did you notice him reach to his back? Is he
lying now?

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:14 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


He reached behind his back. Period.

skin a cat September 9th 13 09:20 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.


Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it
out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a
fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and
movements made when someone is fighting for their life...

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:21 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:09:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


They'll claim the video was "videoshopped..."


That is Kevin's forte.
He thinks the cop boat video was altered.


I'm sorry, where did I EVER say or posit that the video was altered?
That is a damned lie! What I said was that you can not come to a
conclusion that the cop did something crazy by watching it, and there
may be other reasons.

There is nothing inconsistent in the video with a hip carry and it
would not be hard in a struggle to roll over far enough to access the
firearm.

Kevin keeps trying to put that gun in the middle of his back and that
is simply bull****.


He reaches behind his friggin' back, how in hell can you deny that???



iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:22 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H
wrote:


http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.


Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one
hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really
true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun
out with martin sitting on him.


Holy **** that's stupid!

iBoaterer[_3_] September 9th 13 09:27 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 3:28 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....


That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


and it still doesn't matter if it was in his ****ing sock... he got it
out, I would have gotten it out, so would you... Nobody can "recreate" a
fight, not even with a video could you determine the forces and
movements made when someone is fighting for their life...


So Zimmerman was lying? And you'd better watch it, Greg thinks that
videos tell the truth about an event, and one can come to a conclusion
about things as mechanically complex as a boat just by watching a cell
phone video!

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 09:37 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:32:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.


Are we convicting him again?

Bear in mind he was accused by a convicted perjurer ;-)

It would be ironic if Shellie was the one who actually goes to jail, a
boost for every guy who was screwed in a divorce.


Your hero George is a hothead with a gun. It appears as if he went to
the house of his father in law, where his estranged wife is staying, got
into a fight, and allegedly struck his father in law. But, of course,
it's Florida...so who knows what will happen, eh?

Hank©[_3_] September 9th 13 10:58 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 3:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:44:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Oh, and of course, I know you'll ask, for help in dealing with your
senility, so he

http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Again you post a cite that says exactly the opposite of what you
present it as.
That is a standard hip carry holster. I have 2. (one for my .380, one
for the .45)

Use your imagination. Slide it around on your belt and call it an ass
carry holster or a shortarm carry holster. ;-)

F.O.A.D. September 9th 13 11:25 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:32:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

At the moment, your hero George is standing his ground in the slammer.


Are we convicting him again?

Bear in mind he was accused by a convicted perjurer ;-)

It would be ironic if Shellie was the one who actually goes to jail, a
boost for every guy who was screwed in a divorce.



It's been obvious for some time that George Zimmerman is a hotheaded
asshole who shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. Turns out his wife
decided to leave him just before he shot and killed Martin. Smart woman.
Now he's been the object of two vehicular stops in a short period of
time and today he apparently threatened his wife and allegedly punched
his father in law, and may have threatened one or both of them with a
gun and a knife. At the moment, the wife is not pressing charges, which
is all too typical of an abused woman.

I predicted George Zimmerman would come to a bad end, though I didn't
see it happening as quickly as it seems to be happening. He's either
going to shoot his wife or he will play cowboy with someone who is armed
and a faster draw.

You righties have such wonderful folks as your heroes.


skin a cat September 10th 13 12:32 AM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege


He reached behind his back. Period.


Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...

F.O.A.D. September 10th 13 12:38 AM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 7:32 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.


Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...



Nice story, asshole.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 10th 13 12:49 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.


Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...


Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement??

iBoaterer[_3_] September 10th 13 12:53 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


So Zimmerman was lying? And you'd better watch it, Greg thinks that
videos tell the truth about an event, and one can come to a conclusion
about things as mechanically complex as a boat just by watching a cell
phone video!


L:ying about what? That is a hip carry, not a small of the back carry.
It would be a totally different holster.

Try it.

The boat video, simple. NOBODY who was responsible would apply that
much throttle in that place.


Again, here's the trouble. From watching the video, you have become,
somehow, 100% sure that there was no mechanical anomaly that could
happen, and that the operator acting like a fool is the ONLY thing that
could possibly be. I'm intelligent enough to understand that just
because I watch a video, I can't come to a complete 100% conclusion
about what happened.

The unofficial buzz is there were two RIBs sitting there watching
people on the pier, They got a call. One burned out in a Cypress
Gardens turn and the second guy tried it on the outside of the first
guys turn. Wake and just not enough room caused the wreck.


Hearsay, and speculation. Nothing more.

If you hear another story cite it.


Cite your's first!




John H[_2_] September 10th 13 01:01 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:31:28 -0400, John H
wrote:


http://bewytchme.com/george-zimmerma...right-holster/

Oh hell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVwgRkUlhI

John (Gun Nut) H.


Kevin has a serious problem with his conflicting scenarios. On the one
hand he says Zimmerman was "twice the size" of Martin.(not really
true), then he says there was no way he could struggle to get a gun
out with martin sitting on him.


Holy **** that's stupid!


Name-calling will make you believable.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] September 10th 13 01:29 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 07:49:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 9/9/2013 7:14 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:14:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:05:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:14:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

how did Zimmerman get his
gun that was in the small of his back?

Cite?
You were watching too many 70 cop shows.

Here is the video taken when Zimmerman was being interviewed under
supervision at the crime scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o

Notice where he re-enacts himself reaching for his gun.....

That is on his side, just behind the hip bone. It is not the small of
the back carry you allege

He reached behind his back. Period.

Look again. If your belt buckle is 12 o'clock, that is about 4.
It certainly is nowhere near 6 where the "small of the back" is.
Personally I would not even push it around that far but I imagine a
fat guy like him has trouble with a seat belt at 3 o'clock.


Still doesn't matter.. I am 55 and out of shape and if a two hundred
pounder was sitting on me beating my ass I would get my butt off the
ground enough to grab a weapon if I had one. I know this because, just
having fun I have lifted a 270 pound bike off of my belly laying on my
back... not even "fighting for my life"...


Was the bike allegedly "pounding" your head in the pavement??


Lay on your back on the sidewalk. Raise your head and smack it into the concrete hard enough to
break the skin. Do this two or three times.

Let us know how it feels, Mr. Heman!

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

F.O.A.D. September 10th 13 01:34 PM

When stand your ground is justified, period.
 
On 9/9/13 1:39 PM, skin a cat wrote:


Doesn't even matter, even if it was in his back, I would be able to find
a way to get to it if I had to save my life. I would use my legs to get
my hips far enough off the ground to reach in there.. I used to have a
running bet with anybody under 250 pounds in my bar. I could lift them
under the butt, walk them up the stairs to my bar, and through the bar,
and down the stairs in the back. Won 50 bucks more times than I could
count and some of the guys lied. I weighted 145 at the time..... I would
get Martin high enough with my legs to reach my gun if I had one behind
me...


Right...a sickly little ****head like you with cancer and a heart
condition with someone holding you down is going to be able to lift your
butt off the ground and grab the firearm you don't carry because you
don't have...

Next time you fall off that motorbike, try to land on your head, so you
don't damage anything valuable.


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